Do Singaporeans really have the highest IQ in the world?

[Quasimodo]

If kosmopolitan is indeed from the breed of larger brains then why does he mis-spell his own name?

Oh dear, what a huge, huge chip on the little man's shoulders . . . been rejected by a few ladies, have you? There's a thread about this on here somewhere already.

1)Ave IQ of East Asians (China, Japan, Korea) is 5 to 10 points more than that of Whites.
(Search keywords,"IQ Global Inequality"@wikipedia.)
Excellent stuff, must feel good to be able to do maths really well but flunk out big time when it come to real life.

2)East Asians have bigger brain mass than whites.
(Search "Craniometry"@wikipedia.)
Yes, as above. Oh, is that why you guys look a bit weird? Big head on small shoulders? Just asking.

3)Of all of recorded human history 2000yrs ago, for 3/4 of this period (except recently & now) China's the
A)most technologically advanced nation with the
B)highest GDP &
C)highest GDP/capita.

Now I just know that you have to be kidding. I really must be a wind-up. First, stop relying on Wiki for all your information. Your brain size and mass is big enough to check around a bit, isn't it? Sorry, I forgot that brain mass doesn't equal common sense.

Your point 3: You're a friggin' loon. Excellent, mate. Go and live in the past as that is where you were sooooo advanced and sooooooo much richer etc . . . Does that include the millions who had nothing? How was GDP and GDP/capita calculated in - say - 807? How about 386? 1104? Quote the methodology, quote the numbers . . . your claims, don't expect otehrs to do your research and come up with the charms that SMS dug up.

As for your (except recently and now) - in your striving to stress your larger brain size and harness your massive single-digit IQ . . . recently and now?

Gee, I'm glad I live in the past.

So, Einstein ( ) what happened with that massively huge brain size and gargantuan weight . . . why are you so severely lagging behind 'recently and now'? How are your EQ measurements

(Search "economic history of china"@wikipedia.)

Oh, and before you go on about what an anti-Asian I am = = = bugger off. I'm not.

My wife is a lawyer. . . she's 'East Asian' . . . I shall measure her head and weigh her brain tonight.

[Barczar]

It's not the size of the brain or the level of IQ that matters....it's what you do with it that counts!

[taxico]

Let me reveal my true agenda for this thread, which is to highlight to all those (not all, but many) arrogant, nasty and condescending (towards Singaporeans) expats...

...the fact that many (not all) of you caucasian expats have been in general (after my 1 year observation here) extremely condescending towards locals.

the expats here are no different from a good number of singaporeans who work overseas.

they're a snarky lot, and whine and whinge plenty. but there're also those who're a delight to be around.

i'm not making any excuses for the people here on the forum you may take offense to, but singaporeans are not the easiest people in the world to get a long with.

you may not actually be able to really see that until you've gone away for a while. i swear not making this up!

also kosmo, you need to chillax. there's no use popping veins over remarks passed online.

sticks and stones, bro. now, where's that bottle sunday's been moaning over...

[kosmopolitan]

...And welcome to the forum...

Thks

[Quasimodo]

Big-Brain Kosmo, show me where I am being anti-Singaporean . . . and dressing up your loony-tunes post by going into crisis-mode when you get burned down by others . . .

True agenda . . . bollocks.

Dweeb.

[kosmopolitan]

Big-Brain Kosmo, show me where I am being anti-Singaporean . . . and dressing up your loony-tunes post by going into crisis-mode when you get burned down by others . . .

True agenda . . . bollocks.

Dweeb.

Quasimodo,

Before I begin, let me make it clear that from now onwards, I will not bother to ensure there will be no grammar mistakes nor singlish as I m too tired to ensure that as I tend to write lengthy essays. So poke fun at it all you want. It’s just too bad for you if you couldn’t understand my singlish and I couldn’t care less. After all, you guys, while I am not asking you guys not to, often speak in a lingo which I had to often refer to online dictionaries to understand those foreign urban expressions.

I had originally intended for my last post to QRM to be my last post in this forum. There are 4 reasons why I had ignored your first provoking post, and they are…..

1) You had not (yes, u had just rightly stated) been anti-Singaporean as far as I am aware, and so you DO NOT fall into the category (which I had carefully mentioned B4) that I have been directing my direct and blunt post at. In fact, I had apologized to people like you who are not involved EVEN B4 YOU STARTED SPEAKING UP. So since you are not in the category I am targeting at, I see no reason to defend myself against your first post.

2) Your almost personal first post was ignored also because I understand and find it acceptable that despite my apology to people in your category (who has never insulted Singaporeans) even before you responded to me, you have anyhow proceed with the first provoking post, as my original post is indeed (purposely so tho) provoking to begin with. That explains why I had forgiven you and showed some restraint.

3) I had mentioned very clearly in my earlier post that I may not respond further as I do not like a soccer game of 10:1 even though I had deliberately started it for reasons that I had mentioned. And also, I have already accomplished my original agenda so it’s time for me to leave. I wonder why I need to repeat this now.

4) Before I decide to respond to someone, I usually categorize him first. Based on your type of response, I would normally classify you under my “ignore”

[QRM]

..... if you couldn’t understand my singlish and I couldn’t care less.

Good for you Kosmopolitan now you are slowly getting it, you can sleep easy at night if you dont work yourself up over nothing.

I had wanted to initially not give it away immediately when I sign up this forum, that I am a Singaporean.

I think it was pretty obvious from the moment you typed the first word. Like I said previously Kiasuness is really obvious. If you live among it all the time you probably get used to it, but coming from another country this strange and lets be honest very irritating Singapore Kiasu sticks out like a sore thumb. Sorry to disappoint but your covert entry was like standing in a room with a lamp shade on head, hoping no one would notice.

I did try and give you the benefit of doubt, and assumed that it was all ment as a bit of a tongue in cheek joke, but you are starting to sound a little bit unnaturally intense ... I assume they do some sort psychiatric tests before allowing certain "types" to handle weapons in NS?

Anyway I hope you are now happy you said your bit and can take a huge chill pill move on with life.

[kosmopolitan]

I did try and give you the benefit of doubt, and assumed that it was all ment as a bit of a tongue in cheek joke, but you are starting to sound a little bit unnaturally intense ... I assume they do some sort psychiatric tests before allowing certain "types" to handle weapons in NS?

Actually, while I stand by my original claim to be here for the said agenda, I am actually doing this sort of for the fun of it too believe it or not...sort of kill 2 birds with 1 stone. I am actually enjoying it as evident with the rather long and neatly paragraphed responses that I even bother to typed.

Believe it or not, while I am at it, I am in playful consultations with a Singaporean fren of mine who is an expat himself in Canada now. He found the progression of this thread very interesting too, and had urged me to continue on even after I told him I planned to stop. But I changed my mind when I saw how Quasimodo had twice provoked me in a personal manner. Anyhow, if you had noticed, my small little "cheers!" at the end of my response to Quasimodo IS sincere and NOT sarcastic. Being a boring Singaporean that I am with less sense of humour and less linguistic ability to poke fun creatively using this foreign language, it must definitely appear to you that I am bearing grudges while typing my lengthy thesis.

Cheers! (again)

[taxico]

Sorry to disappoint but your covert entry was like standing in a room with a lamp shade on head, hoping no one would notice.

awahahahahahahhaaaaa...

[QRM]

I am actually doing this sort of for the fun of it too believe it or not

There you go, everyday you are making huge leaps now you are realising its all about fun, thats right let your hair down a bit break away from the IQ and cranial volume shackles. While you give credit to your fellow country folk in Canada, you should pat yourself on the back for taking the first and in most cases the hardest step, standing in front of a mirror and see what other people see, I quote:

Being a boring Singaporean that I am with less sense of humour

That is good, and maybe for the first time you can now step out of the box or in this case off the Island and realise that, most people do not perceive long and neat paragraph as an indication of having fun.

I am actually enjoying it as evident with the rather long and neatly paragraphed responses

Don't be disheartened there is a long road ahead, getting rid of a life long conditioning of Kiasu-ness will not happen overnight. There will be days when you feel you have plateaued or even regress with Kiasu flashbacks, but the progress so far is inspirational for not just yourself but other Kiasu suffering Singaporeans.

Cheers too.

[kosmopolitan]

Don't be disheartened there is a long road ahead, getting rid of a life long conditioning of Kiasu-ness will not happen overnight. There will be days when you feel you have plateaued or even regress with Kiasu flashbacks, but the progress so far is inspirational for not just yourself but other Kiasu suffering Singaporeans.

Cheers too.

lol. I hate it when u almost speak in a fatherly tone even tho we r prob of similar age. I do see your kind intention though. But frankly, I don't see any huge prob of this "kiasuism" nor a need to change it among Singaporeans short of the unfortunate annoyance that only non-Singaporeans will prob feel. It's sort of like continuing smoking cigerrette while knowing it is harmful , tho in this case, kiasuism is prob less harmful (at least it doesn't kill). In fact, I see some good in it at the same time even tho it may be a bad habit in general.

[taxico]

But frankly, I don't see any huge prob of this "kiasuism" nor a need to change it among Singaporeans short of the unfortunate annoyance that only non-Singaporeans will prob feel. It's sort of like continuing smoking cigerrette while knowing it is harmful , tho in this case, kiasuism is prob less harmful (at least it doesn't kill). In fact, I see some good in it at the same time even tho it may be a bad habit in general.

kiasu'ism is a big reason why there's a need for a "kindness movement" or "courtesy campaigns," and perhaps why many singaporeans (especially tourists) are disliked overseas.

singaporeans have taken the spirit of competitiveness and turned it into something ugly and selfish and disgusting. there're plenty of examples of people getting into fights and squabbles due to displays of kiasu'ism.

while it has yet "killed" a person (i think?), it has killed the image of all the progress this country and its people have worked so hard for.

is this the impression you want foreigners taking away with them when they leave singapore? (rhetorical)

is the result of this negative image/impression/kiasu'ism part of what you (and i suspect many singaporeans) are having a beef with? (rhetorical)

the upside is, this is not a trait that's confined to singapore, but unfortunately it exists in an extreme form within singaporeans, and is very commonly practiced by most of them.

even if kiasu'ism is a good thing, i'm sure you know too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

i love singapore to the nth degree, but kiasu'ism (which is mostly selfishness, fear and insecurity) needs to be cut back.

[QRM]

u almost speak in a fatherly tone even tho we r prob of similar age.

Its not so much age more life experience. Don’t get me wrong I am not saying your experience is any less meaningful. Based on your views, I assume you have not ventured out much apart from the odd holiday here and there. There is a quote somewhere about people who don’t really travel have only read the first page of the book of life.

By saying there is nothing wrong with Kiasuness, you have suffered a Kiasu flashback. While it is an expected cold turkey symptom, its a tad disappointing you fell off the wagon so soon after your great leap forwards. You hit the nail on the head it is like smoking.

Its fine smoking when you are in one of those yellow stained glass boxes full of smokers, Singapore has a population of 4.5 million, the rest of the world has 6.7 billion, its like all the nicotined infused Singaporeans stepping out of the smoking box and then lighting up in an indoor stadium full of people.
There is a whole world out there beyond these imported sandy shores. Yes you can argue expats coming here have voluntarily stepped into the smoking enclosure should not complain about the smell.

Taxico point is very valid, you don't want the expats leaving the box and head home where people will soon get wind of the bad taste, even Singapore big cheeses have realised that the Kaisu mentality need to be stamped out. Its a tall order how do you fine someone for being Kaisu.

When you say Kisauness wont kill you you underestimate the power of it, if you try your Wikipedia routine in some LA ghetto, you could well finish up in a box or at the very least end up with a deep imprint of a polished Desert Eagle butt on your head.

Kosmopolitan try and stay on the wagon, there are people here rooting for you.

[Quasimodo]

kosmopolitam wrote:

I will not bother to ensure there will be no grammar mistakes nor singlish as I m too tired to ensure that as I tend to write lengthy essays.

Perhaps quality should supersede quantity . . . something to think about with your massively heavy and hugely large brain.

I believe I saw you sitting at Coffee Bean the other day . . .

[QRM]

its been a while since I cried laughing