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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 05 Jun 2009 4:49 pm

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Postby TommyD » Fri, 05 Jun 2009 5:06 pm

Haha this thread cracks me up.

I'm Australian and according to this thread my English is "Horrible". . . so true! My Fiance corrects me on my English all the time and she's from Czech! I don't understand half this thread because in Australia i was never taught grammar. I have no idea what a past preposition is, or any of the other gramatical term used here.

I think threre are a vast number of people out there who honestly respect the difficulty in learning multiple languages, and like the variations you get in different countries, like Singlish (or Czechlish, one of the reasons i got engaged). I speak many languages (English, Australian, American, British and am currently trying to learn Canadian) Learning these languages has taught me to respect the effort the Singaporean people have put into their Singlish.

. . . Mods, Flame away. It's hilarious.

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Postby Quasimodo » Fri, 05 Jun 2009 7:52 pm

Why flame . . . no-one would argue!

'ave a good week-end, mate :wink:
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Postby QRM » Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:33 pm

TommyD wrote:in Australia i was never taught grammar. I have no idea what a used here.


I was taught grammar and still haven't a clue what a past preposition is, along with any of the other grammatical term is. :shock:

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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:15 pm

no quasimodo. the call wasnt answered in India. I can hear the Chinese accent.

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Postby vbelle » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 3:40 pm

by the way...

singapore national language is malay??

seriously?

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 4:04 pm

vbelle wrote:by the way...

singapore national language is malay??

seriously?


Yes. Why is that surprising? The original ethnic group here would have been Malay (leaving out the many conquests and arrivals of other groups).

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Postby vbelle » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 4:15 pm

because only malay speaks malay...
and majority here are chinese...
why they dont even teach people malay language in schools??
like im indonesian..and we all speak indonesian..and i dont speak chinese...zip...

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 4:40 pm

vbelle wrote:because only malay speaks malay...
and majority here are chinese...
why they dont even teach people malay language in schools??
like im indonesian..and we all speak indonesian..and i dont speak chinese...zip...


There is one NATIONAL language: Malay
There are four OFFICIAL languages: Malay, Mandarin, English, Tamil
There is one working/government language: English
There is one school language: English, and

Each one of the official ethnic groups does receive instruction in their 'native' language everyday for about one hour.

This may seem strange in a way, and:

a) The government long ago decided that if the country was to succeed globally it needed to speak English.

b) The government also saw English as a bridge to enable multiple races to communicate with one another without elevating any 'native' language to special status and inflaming racial tensions.

c) The government knows that Mandarin is not the only form of Chinese spoken, nor Tamil, the only Indian language. But at least in the case of Chinese, it is an attempt to reduce the divisions and the clans and unite people together under a common language.

So, Malay is only taught to Malays as a heritage thing... to teach it across the board would mean the other languages would need to be taught as well... and it is English that is the language of government, schooling, and commerce.... believe it or not.

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Postby vbelle » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 4:52 pm

thanks for your info :D

just a bit...weird to make it a national language then..
but then i may have the wrong concept about what is national language after all :)

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Postby ksl » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:55 pm

vbelle wrote:thanks for your info :D

just a bit...weird to make it a national language then..
but then i may have the wrong concept about what is national language after all :)


You may wish to read this link it may clear a few things up for you!
http://www.mongabay.com/reference/count ... e/all.html

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Postby smashme1984 » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 2:32 pm

Well Well, seems like we can learn a lesson from this thread;

Forums, like a public performance, public relation, is not for fools either. You gotta be able to hold firm to what you are about to say or type, and back yourself up, so bull-shat wont get nowhere.

If the Thread starter cant even handle an event like this with the absence of physical presence, non real time processing, quits and runs away like a sore loser, I wonder how he will fare in the real-time society, I am guessing lotsa bull-shat spewing from the top.

Lastly, I don't see such a big issue with "perfecting" our english, why look so hard at perfection? I think the french are really cute and funny with some of their incomplete english. Nobody is or can ever be perfect, and why search so hard for flaws? There will be no end to it. As long as we can understand one another, it is fine, the economy of Singapore is still strong despite the improper english infra-strucutre some claim it runs on, what's wrong with it? It IS the Singaporeans' identity after all, just like you'll know "Howdy mate" comes from Australia, and the typical "Rock-ing" language comign from the UK creates an identity. Singaporeans have created themselves an identity here, and is doing fine, the "speak good english" campaigns the government attempts seem more like a sucking up to the western influences.
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Postby Vaucluse » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 3:00 pm

smashme1984 wrote:"Howdy mate" comes from Australia

Singaporeans have created themselves an identity here, and is doing fine, the "speak good english" campaigns the government attempts seem more like a sucking up to the western influences.



:shock: Howdy mate??? :shock: That sounds like a septic trying to be an Aussie. :) No such thing as 'Howdy' in the Land of Milk and Honey.

Your last sentence sums it up nicely. Well said.
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Postby rattlesnake » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 8:03 pm

Vaucluse wrote:
smashme1984 wrote:"Howdy mate" comes from Australia

Singaporeans have created themselves an identity here, and is doing fine, the "speak good english" campaigns the government attempts seem more like a sucking up to the western influences.



:shock: Howdy mate??? :shock: That sounds like a septic trying to be an Aussie. :) No such thing as 'Howdy' in the Land of Milk and Honey.

Your last sentence sums it up nicely. Well said.


G'day, mate. The land of milk and honey is Israel mate! I looked it up on google, mate. You mean the land of plenty, mate. Catch ya later.

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Postby Vaucluse » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:13 pm

rattlesnake wrote:
Vaucluse wrote:
smashme1984 wrote:"Howdy mate" comes from Australia

Singaporeans have created themselves an identity here, and is doing fine, the "speak good english" campaigns the government attempts seem more like a sucking up to the western influences.



:shock: Howdy mate??? :shock: That sounds like a septic trying to be an Aussie. :) No such thing as 'Howdy' in the Land of Milk and Honey.

Your last sentence sums it up nicely. Well said.


G'day, mate. The land of milk and honey is Israel mate! I looked it up on google, mate. You mean the land of plenty, mate. Catch ya later.


GodZoneGod's Own, mate . . . we have more milk and honey than Israel and their hairy neighbours could muster in a lifetime. :wink:
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