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Diplomat pass holders in Singapore

Postby Netvel » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 4:31 pm

Can anyone tell me if diplomat pass holders are eligible to apply for PR?

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Postby jpatokal » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 5:52 pm

:o

I very much doubt you'll find anybody else who is in or has been in the same position, but according to the ICA it seems very likely that the answer is "no". From the site:

The following categories of foreigners are eligible to submit applications:
* Spouse and unmarried children (below 21 years old) of a Singapore Citizen (SC)/Permanent Resident (SPR)
* Aged parents of a Singapore Citizen
* P, Q or S work pass holders
* Investors/Entrepreneurs

A diplomat is none of the above. If you're a diplomat's kid here on a diplomatic passport and your other parent is Singapore citizen/PR, you may be eligible, but then you'll be liable for NS.
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Postby sierra2469alpha » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 6:20 pm

Netvel - hmm, I'm there are better heads here about this, but from my home country, if you have a diplomatic passport it is issued while you are deployed in a position by your home government agency to a country/countries into which you need to travel on diplomatic business on a regular basis with diplomatic protection. I won't go into anything else about it as it's a matter between governments to organise these things. Suffice to say I'd find it highly unlikely. Why not ask the agency who authorised your diplomatic passport, as a step forward.

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Postby Vaucluse » Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:20 pm

Yes. As long as you fit into one of the categories mentioned before. Nothing to say that you can't be a diplomat and entrepreneur at the same time.

Oh . . . I was granted PR despite my diplomatic passport . . . but not in Singapore.
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Postby Netvel » Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:45 pm

Vaucluse wrote:Yes. As long as you fit into one of the categories mentioned before. Nothing to say that you can't be a diplomat and entrepreneur at the same time.

Oh . . . I was granted PR despite my diplomatic passport . . . but not in Singapore.


In the case that me and my wife aren't Singapore citizens/PRs am I still or my kids eligible to apply?

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Postby Vaucluse » Sat, 11 Apr 2009 1:22 pm

Of course they can apply for PR, why not. Let them try the entrepreneur scheme, that's how we got our PR in Singapore
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Postby ksl » Sat, 11 Apr 2009 1:33 pm

I think in many cases diplomats and families jump ship to other countries for various reasons, in most cases they are welcomed with open arms, and maybe subjected to more rigors of vetting than any other applicant, but it shouldn't stop an application unless there are any threats to national security. They are more likely to have there activities monitored for a while, or even for ever, discreetly of course.

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Postby Vaucluse » Sat, 11 Apr 2009 9:04 pm

Nah, KSL. You read too many novels. Diplomats are public servants, pure and simple. When they are in their home country their income and rank is paralleled to that of postal employees or other government employees.

Very few diplomats are privy to secret or sensitive material, they work in the visa section doing the daily grind of signing passports etc . . . , cultural affairs by donating books to various schools and the like, commercial where they set up lists of companies to invest in or whatnot etc etc etc

I applied for and received my PR in a western country and I am from a western country . . . no biggie at all.
I have friends who got their green card in the US while serving at their consulate in LA and New York . . .
I have one friend with whom I was at basic training who decided he wanted to stay in Greece after marrying his Greek wife . . .

. . . no problem with the right to stay, no lifelong shadows, no tapped phones . . .
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Postby ksl » Sun, 12 Apr 2009 2:14 am

Vaucluse wrote:Nah, KSL. You read too many novels. Diplomats are public servants, pure and simple. When they are in their home country their income and rank is paralleled to that of postal employees or other government employees.

Very few diplomats are privy to secret or sensitive material, they work in the visa section doing the daily grind of signing passports etc . . . , cultural affairs by donating books to various schools and the like, commercial where they set up lists of companies to invest in or whatnot etc etc etc

I applied for and received my PR in a western country and I am from a western country . . . no biggie at all.
I have friends who got their green card in the US while serving at their consulate in LA and New York . . .
I have one friend with whom I was at training who decided he wanted to stay in Greece after marrying his Greek wife . . .

. . . no problem with the right to stay, no lifelong shadows, no tapped phones . . .


Ah yes novels. I'm thinking of writing one too :)

I was once whisked away like a VIP, from a training exercise in the Libyan dessert to a secretive destination at the age of 20, I was taken aback by all the hush hush, but I was driven home to my mothers house from Brize Norton where the plane landed.

I said my farewells and was escorted to the passport office down in London, some 350 mile drive, and filled in the will & testament before we arrived at the passport office around 11pm, some one was waiting to open the doors and issue me with my travel documents.

I looked inside but no destination was stamped, the driver then drove me to Brize Norton again where I boarded a transport plane, It was quite eerie being the only one on such a large transporter, I never even got to see who was flying it.

I think i could write a good novel actually and also fill the book up with all the James bond equipment like this

http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/ ... 109&page=1 :wink: You must have had a boring job! :) Surely you are aware of SOXMIS and other networks it's kind of a game called catch me if you can, much more fun, than pen pushing
http://www.usmlm.org/home/soviets/soxmi ... 032985.htm

Although I have no idea if it still goes on today. I was never a part of it, but I was aware of it back in my day.

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Postby Vaucluse » Sun, 12 Apr 2009 7:27 pm

:lol: Brilliant
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