I guess this is especially so when parents take their kids and immigrate without first finding out the ramifications of doing so without following proper procedures. It's actually very easy as long as the parents use a little common sense......... Therein lies the problem. That elusive trait in Singapore "Common Sense". Now the child, as an adult has to face the problem that the parents gave him.Knightman_38 wrote:Well I guess I can go to Malaysia and to the surrounding areas and avoid Singapore at all costs. It was a thought of going back but being away some 28 years makes me miss Singapore much less, seeing how arcaic the governments' policies and procedures prove and how much of authoritative rule they have on mere citizens.
Hi,sundaymorningstaple wrote:..... It's actually very easy as long as the parents use a little common sense.........
And that, folks, just goes to reinforce my statement above. Had you read the threads contained in this forum, you would not have to ask that question would you. It's actually very easy as long as the parents use a little common sense like immigrating earlier before the child has enjoyed the socio-economic benefits of a NRIC/Passport/Secondary Schooling. After that, the kid needs to do NS as he cannot renounce before doing so. See. Easy. You plan ahead or he does NS. Common Sense.igwt wrote:Hi,sundaymorningstaple wrote:..... It's actually very easy as long as the parents use a little common sense.........
Can you tell me how easy it is in this case? Is there any provision under SG law for a 16 years old to migrate and renounce SG citizenship, of course without NS?
With all due respect, there's very little that's "very easy" or "common sense" about the process. As you've noted yourself, the Garmin goes out of its way not to publicize this info, and SingaporeExpats wasn't around when the OP's parents were living in the country 28 years ago...sundaymorningstaple wrote:And that, folks, just goes to reinforce my statement above. Had you read the threads contained in this forum, you would not have to ask that question would you. It's actually very easy as long as the parents use a little common sense
That's why I said sane countries, not all other countriessundaymorningstaple wrote:You are aware then that every male of the US has to register with the selective service system then aren't you?
Simon-2009 wrote:I understand your frustration, but why do you insult Singapore, the country where you were born? I do not agree that US is the greatest country, just because I love Singapore and I think that it is the greatest country. Just because I like the place where I am and where my son was born.
This discussion started with your legitimate question then became a strange gathering of insulting posts.
Where are all the insulting posts? I haven't seen any here that insult any country at all. You might take off your blinkers and reread the thread.
Let me tell you my opnion on that. As you know there are not so many countries in the world where double citizenship is legal. Singapore is just consistent in this respect. This country has the greatest history of success relative to other poor neighboring countries. Nobody shots policeman or kill kids here. I think (presumably) it is the good place isn't it?
There may not be many but a lot of those that are are primarily developed countries as opposed to developing countries (Singapore is still not classified as a 'developed' country). The US, UK, Canada, Australia, France, Israel all either permit or tolerate dual or multiple citizenship. I know a lot of people who are born in Canada, went to the US and acquired citizenship there and also are British citizens as well due to Parental lineage and the fact that Canada is a commonwealth country.
As far as the rest of your paragraph, well, let's just say "low crime doesn't mean no crime" although Singapore does have a bad reputation for letting terrorists escape.
I am ready to discuss with you merits of Singapore since I do not see big problems here. Maybe I am not right, but it is my opinion. I came from the country where some people initiated blood bath using "democratic" ideology.
I do not say bad words about USA. I think it is a great country and we should be happy that it exists. But you have to understand the realities of our life. I is not easy to do, but as you said, go to Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and learn life there.
So you are obviously in a better position that you were before you took up Citizenship here. You are obviously a naturalized citizen as well. Do you think that your fervor for Singapore, your adopted country, is any greater than his fervor for his adopted country?
I am sure in future you will understand why Singapore should be strict and why Singapore is a success story. It is pity that you cannot come to the land where you was born. Then you will see what is the paradise. That my friend, is a misnomer if there every was one.
I can walk here in any place and in any time. My wife can do that. My kids can do that. You will see how singaporeans smile when see others children (Asian children!). Children in Singapore. It is a special story. The amount of love for children is duly noted by the country's fertility rates which 3rd lowest in the entire world. You need to do some homework. The average age of having children is up around 35+ for the first child (and in most cases, only child).
They are very intelligent, they are surrounded by LOVE. They are more surrounded by demand. Demand that they have the highest scores, so as to give the parents bragging rights. It is pity that you lived in other country. But I am sure you will come here one day. You are welcome!
You obviously bought the whole government sales pitch, hook, line & sinker. Hopefully you'll not live to rue the day. Have you been discriminated against yet when trying to buy an HDB flat? Or do you have the "racial" superiority so you can live almost anywhere you'd like here? If you don't mind, I'll just share your smilie rather than using another one.....
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