Singapore Expats

Why are people so rude on the MRT!! Some1 Enlighten me!

Discuss about life in Singapore. Ask about cost of living, housing, travel, etiquette & lifestyle. Share experience & advice with Singaporeans & expat staying in Singapore.
Post Reply
User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40519
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 9:29 pm

Image :P
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

CantervilleGhost
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:27 am
Location: Singapore

Re: culture continued

Post by CantervilleGhost » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 9:33 pm

It was meant to be humorous,

I see . . . you are now saying that you were joking . . . despite your protestations to the contrary.

You're obviously not British so you don't get it, but the post was intended for Brits. No Brit can say to another that the UK has 'lovely weather' and maintain a straight face. The reason I have to explain this to you is because you don't get it. Irritating.

Oh, I do . . . like I make fun of and criticise Australian politics, US politics etc...

Exactly.

Many of them are really, actually, trying. My point to Brits is, just slagging them off won't do anymore, there's too much to lose.

Are they really? You say this after all the rubbish that has come out regarding misuse of public funds for moats and birdbaths and the like? More like a tinpot African country, really


No, it isn't, you silly silly silly person.

I don't know why this expression of love for British literature should be so offensive to you or get you so riled up.

It doesn't at all. Of course you are free to adore your country's rich literary heritage. (If you include the Irish contribution, of course)


Yes it does. It annoyed you that I said it was the best.
You are right about me being a troll though, now that I've had it explained to me.

Conceited of me???? Please do look in the mirror and re-read your posts, which smack of conceit

Yes, I have conceits. But they're harmless. Your conceit is that you think you can ridicule someone by pointing and laughing.

[color=darkredIt is quite disingenuous of you to change the goalposts when you find resistance . . [/color]

What you see as a change in my argument is an illusion caused by the strobe-like progress of your cognitive faculties.

CantervilleGhost
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:27 am
Location: Singapore

Re: culture continued

Post by CantervilleGhost » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:28 pm

...
Last edited by CantervilleGhost on Sat, 03 Apr 2010 4:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
vbelle
Chatter
Chatter
Posts: 257
Joined: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 4:45 pm
Location: singapore

Post by vbelle » Thu, 31 Dec 2009 8:55 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
It's prejudicial as statistically, the number of crimes by foreigners here is no different than for locals and I believe it's somewhat smaller from a statistical point of view if I remember correctly from an article in the papers back during the Serangoon Gardens debacle over the new dormitory there. It's a pretty sad state of affairs considering the number of local households with "foreign workers" living under their roofs! :-|
they are doing hard work...got 700SGD/month..and get all the bad image...

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40519
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 31 Dec 2009 9:04 am

And the crimes they do commit probably wouldn't have had to happen at all if the Sh*tty employers would pay them a decent wage. So it's come full circle, the ones complaining are the one who are probably causing the scenario that would lead to someone committing a crime in the first place. Otherwise, why would they deliberately destroy their 2/3'rds empty "ricebowls".

But, that's another topic I guess...... :wink:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

User avatar
Plavt
Director
Director
Posts: 4278
Joined: Wed, 18 May 2005 2:13 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: culture continued

Post by Plavt » Thu, 31 Dec 2009 9:34 am

CantervilleGhost wrote: Britons have one of the fairest and most culturally innovative societies in the world.
Culturally innovative? I have no idea what you mean. As for being fair, I can only assume you are not British?
Lovely weather. Superb quality food.
Recent temperatures have been down to -6, it has been raining for days and more snow is forecast.
but complaining about that IS whinging.
How do you resolve an issue if you do not complain?
Not seeing that you have any responsibility towards your mother country, after all it has given you and the world, is pathetic.
Maybe you come from a privileged background?

revhappy
Editor
Editor
Posts: 1068
Joined: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 9:16 pm

Re: culture continued

Post by revhappy » Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:02 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:... I can give you another reason that some adverts say no Indians as well, but you might not like it. Some homeowners are adverse to having to renovate the home after some Indian families move out. I don't like saying this as it's going to cause some flaming but having been here for over a quarter of a century AND being married to an Indian, I can attest to what I'm saying. Depending of the cultural background/dietary habits of the family, they might use lots of ghee and charcol burners and heavy spices/incense. While this is okay for the most part. If there is lots of wood in the unit, it will absorbs these aromas forever and sometimes the only thing that will remove them is a total renovation which can be expensive. Now, unfortunately, some landlords use this reason as well. Not all are like that, but to the landlord, it's easier to eliminate all rather than taking the chance. Wrong? Damn right it's wrong! But, it's still the landlord's property and they are free to rent it to whomever as long as government regulations aren't breached. If you haven't already noticed, there's not any equal opportunity laws here....
I agree with this point and being an Indian myself can vouch for it. We Indians eat spicy food and spicy food is the only type of food that we eat all the time, breakfast, lunch and dinner. Our curries, chutneys, pickles are all full of chillies, mustard, cinnamon, cardamom, pepper, turmeric, chillie powder and tonnes of other stuff. Thats just the way our food is and anything else is not edible to us.

Of course, we do like to have pizza and subway every now and then but we load it with chillie flakes and chillie sause :lol:

When, My wife and I had been to Cameron highlands, we were offered the famous "Steam Boat" as part of the tour package. Both of us were excited as we were going to try something new. Our excitement turned to total dissapointment when we actually tasted the boiled vegetables. It was yuck! totally bland and not spicy at all, but all the chinese and malay around us were gorging it like there was no tomorrow.

One thing I notice in HDB's is that there are no exhaust fans in the kitchen or even an outlet to install an exhaust fatn, which is a must in all houses in India. That makes the aroma and smoke stay within the house.
Last edited by revhappy on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 9:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Vaucluse
Director
Director
Posts: 3292
Joined: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 2:47 pm

Re: culture continued

Post by Vaucluse » Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:40 am

CantervilleGhost wrote:It was meant to be humorous,

I see . . . you are now saying that you were joking . . . despite your protestations to the contrary.

You're obviously not British

And I thank the good Lord for that . . . at least my teeth are in good shape

so you don't get it, but the post was intended for Brits.

Then join a British expat site

No Brit can say to another that the UK has 'lovely weather' and maintain a straight face. The reason I have to explain this to you is because you don't get it. Irritating.

What is irritating is that you flip flop on your stance whenever you are made to look a fool . . . by your own doing

Oh, I do . . . like I make fun of and criticise Australian politics, US politics etc...

Exactly.

Many of them are really, actually, trying. My point to Brits is, just slagging them off won't do anymore, there's too much to lose.

Are they really? You say this after all the rubbish that has come out regarding misuse of public funds for moats and birdbaths and the like? More like a tinpot African country, really


No, it isn't, you silly silly silly person.

Ah, that's a good argument . . . you are showing your education and upbringing quite nicely here

I don't know why this expression of love for British literature should be so offensive to you or get you so riled up.

It doesn't at all. Of course you are free to adore your country's rich literary heritage. (If you include the Irish contribution, of course)


Yes it does. It annoyed you that I said it was the best.
You are right about me being a troll though, now that I've had it explained to me.

Excellent . . . Troll.

Conceited of me???? Please do look in the mirror and re-read your posts, which smack of conceit

Yes, I have conceits. But they're harmless. Your conceit is that you think you can ridicule someone by pointing and laughing.

Yes, you are conceited, bordering on the xenophobic

[color=darkredIt is quite disingenuous of you to change the goalposts when you find resistance . . [/color]

What you see as a change in my argument is an illusion caused by the strobe-like progress of your cognitive faculties.

Umm . . . nope, it is you changing your position whenever you are unmasked as a fool
Happy New Year everyone!
......................................................

'nuff said Image

User avatar
intellectualsmuse
Chatter
Chatter
Posts: 333
Joined: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 2:32 am

Re: culture continued

Post by intellectualsmuse » Tue, 05 Jan 2010 3:42 am

revhappy wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:... I can give you another reason that some adverts say no Indians as well, but you might not like it. Some homeowners are adverse to having to renovate the home after some Indian families move out. I don't like saying this as it's going to cause some flaming but having been here for over a quarter of a century AND being married to an Indian, I can attest to what I'm saying. Depending of the cultural background/dietary habits of the family, they might use lots of ghee and charcol burners and heavy spices/incense. While this is okay for the most part. If there is lots of wood in the unit, it will absorbs these aromas forever and sometimes the only thing that will remove them is a total renovation which can be expensive. Now, unfortunately, some landlords use this reason as well. Not all are like that, but to the landlord, it's easier to eliminate all rather than taking the chance. Wrong? Damn right it's wrong! But, it's still the landlord's property and they are free to rent it to whomever as long as government regulations aren't breached. If you haven't already noticed, there's not any equal opportunity laws here....
I agree with this point and being an Indian myself can vouch for it. We Indians eat spicy food and spicy food is the only type of food that we eat all the time, breakfast, lunch and dinner. Our curries, chutneys, pickles are all full of chillies, mustard, cinnamon, cardamom, pepper, turmeric, chillie powder and tonnes of other stuff. Thats just the way our food is and anything else is not edible to us.

Of course, we do like to have pizza and subway every now and then but we load it with chillie flakes and chillie sause :lol:

When, My wife and I had been to Cameron highlands, we were offered the famous "Steam Boat" as part of the tour package. Both of us were excited as we were going to try something new. Our excitement turned to total dissapointment when we actually tasted the boiled vegetables. It was yuck! totally bland and not spicy at all, but all the chinese and malay around us were gorging it like there was no tomorrow.

One thing I notice in HDB's is that there are no exhaust fans in the kitchen or even an outlet to install an exhaust fatn, which is a must in all houses in India. That makes the aroma and smoke stay within the house.

My husband's already in Singapore and when looking for homes he was turned down in a lot of places cause the landlord didn't want to rent the house to Indians. While I can fully appreciate what the use of spices and ghee can do to modular kitchen cabinets, I really cant help but wonder if they dont have any chimneys in Singapore...My kitchen in India is equipped with one and that ensures that no residues are left.

Although yes the owner of a house has every right to decide whom to rent the place to!
For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40519
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 05 Jan 2010 9:45 am

Nope. No chimneys in Singapore. Can you imagine chimneys in a 100 unit 14 story highrise? Although exhaust fans would be nice. Most kitchens with modern stoves normally have a cooker hood that has an exhaust fan that draws the smoke through activated charcoal filters but just blows in back into the kitchen above the hood usually. Doesn't remove it from the room. Most don't even turn on the hoods other than maybe the lights. Therefore the smoke just permeates all the wood in the house. Exhaust fans would be good but the design of HDB flats is not conducive to these and usually the gala pole holders are in the same vicinity as the kitchen windows. Exhausting the oily/greasy fumes will cause them to then be trapped by wet laundry thereby aggravating you neighbours even further than the burning of incense already does. Tolerance outside the home is mandated by law but preference in renting is personal and up to the landlord.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

User avatar
sierra2469alpha
Editor
Editor
Posts: 1381
Joined: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:50 am
Location: Singapore (Finally!)

Post by sierra2469alpha » Tue, 05 Jan 2010 2:05 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Image :P
Awesome jpeg, SMS - well done!

User avatar
intellectualsmuse
Chatter
Chatter
Posts: 333
Joined: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 2:32 am

Post by intellectualsmuse » Wed, 06 Jan 2010 1:11 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Nope. No chimneys in Singapore. Can you imagine chimneys in a 100 unit 14 story highrise? Although exhaust fans would be nice. Most kitchens with modern stoves normally have a cooker hood that has an exhaust fan that draws the smoke through activated charcoal filters but just blows in back into the kitchen above the hood usually. Doesn't remove it from the room. Most don't even turn on the hoods other than maybe the lights. Therefore the smoke just permeates all the wood in the house. Exhaust fans would be good but the design of HDB flats is not conducive to these and usually the gala pole holders are in the same vicinity as the kitchen windows. Exhausting the oily/greasy fumes will cause them to then be trapped by wet laundry thereby aggravating you neighbours even further than the burning of incense already does. Tolerance outside the home is mandated by law but preference in renting is personal and up to the landlord.
And I thought baffle filters were a solution to everything :D

Anyways, not all Indian kitchens are smoke filled, greasy rooms emanating pungent odours. (Just thought I'd add the disclaimer lest landlords following this thread become more reticent than they already are!) :D
For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40519
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 06 Jan 2010 7:12 am

intellectualsmuse wrote: Anyways, not all Indian kitchens are smoke filled, greasy rooms emanating pungent odours. (Just thought I'd add the disclaimer lest landlords following this thread become more reticent than they already are!) :D
Reading the thread might have helped keep you from just repeating my earlier posts. ........ :-|
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Depending of the cultural background/dietary habits of the family, they might use lots of ghee and charcol burners and heavy spices/incense. While this is okay for the most part. If there is lots of wood in the unit, it will absorbs these aromas forever and sometimes the only thing that will remove them is a total renovation which can be expensive. Now, unfortunately, some landlords use this reason as well. Not all are like that, but to the landlord, it's easier to eliminate all rather than taking the chance. Wrong? Damn right it's wrong! But, it's still the landlord's property and they are free to rent it to whomever as long as government regulations aren't breached. If you haven't already noticed, there's not any equal opportunity laws here....
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

User avatar
intellectualsmuse
Chatter
Chatter
Posts: 333
Joined: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 2:32 am

Post by intellectualsmuse » Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:28 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
intellectualsmuse wrote: Anyways, not all Indian kitchens are smoke filled, greasy rooms emanating pungent odours. (Just thought I'd add the disclaimer lest landlords following this thread become more reticent than they already are!) :D
Reading the thread might have helped keep you from just repeating my earlier posts. ........ :-|
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Depending of the cultural background/dietary habits of the family, they might use lots of ghee and charcol burners and heavy spices/incense. While this is okay for the most part. If there is lots of wood in the unit, it will absorbs these aromas forever and sometimes the only thing that will remove them is a total renovation which can be expensive. Now, unfortunately, some landlords use this reason as well. Not all are like that, but to the landlord, it's easier to eliminate all rather than taking the chance. Wrong? Damn right it's wrong! But, it's still the landlord's property and they are free to rent it to whomever as long as government regulations aren't breached. If you haven't already noticed, there's not any equal opportunity laws here....
Well, I added the disclaimer bit precisely cause I'd read that statement- was hoping some of those "eliminator landlords" would change their mind ;-) (Uh of course, I've been told I'm overtly optimistic at times, but never mind!!)
For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40519
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 07 Jan 2010 7:07 am

Well, the good thing about being overly optimistic is that you will never die of thirst! The glass of water will ALWAYS be half full :wink: and never half empty! :(

I guess when one has been around for over 6 decades like I have, a lot of the bloom has left the rose..... :oops!: :shit:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Staying, Living in Singapore”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests