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Post by Vaucluse » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:06 pm

snowqueen wrote:So it's OK not to say thank you when someone holds a door open for you?

No, it's not acceptable bahaviour, where did we say it is?


Take it you are one of the rude ones then.

Absolutely not. My manners are impeccable.


For the record, he was 2 weeks old at the time and fast asleep. I don't think this will damage him for life. I hardly think I'm going to be in the supermarket next week and hear him effing and jeffing around the place.

Not now, but seeing you are prone to hurling filth what's to say you won't do that when he's five or so?


There's no way I would swear in front of my child when he's in ear shot . . . clearly not:
I was holding the door open for my mum as she was pushing my son's stroller ... I just shouted after them I just shouted after them "I'm not a f**king door wedge you know"!!
and one thing is for sure, I will make sure he grows up with manners. Like saying please and thank you, holding doors open for people, and offering his seat on public transport to elderly, disabled or pregnant people (not pretend to be asleep).

Good for you


One thing I did read in a book recently is that it is rude to blow your nose in public - is this true? I find strange because it seems OK to honk the snot up your nose into the back of your throat and spit it out - or swallow it!! Yummy :)

Ugh . . . not a nice vision, but yes. I do believe it is considered rude, but that may be an anachronism

Not having a go at you, per se, just the choice words you decided to hurl at strangers in front of your mum and baby
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Post by eechim » Thu, 23 Apr 2009 4:45 pm

i often come here for business and i try to take mrt if possible (esp during the peak hours on the roads)
MRT is ok here except during peak hours. i saw old people being pushed aside by young students. I was on the bus today and i wasn't sure how to use the ezy pass on it. an elderly couple were so kind to tell me. and when i was thankful to them for the help, they looked so grateful - i sometimes think the older generation are less "kiasu"
just my two cents....

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Post by vbelle » Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:28 pm

agree with soundmeister, try third world country, than you will be more grateful...im from one...if you drive(i dont) no one will give you way..they dont even give way for pedestrian crossing the street..in the zebra cross!!

i used to live in australia, and hate it at first, since the stewardess in Qantas never smile and so does the people I met..also how they make a big deal outta trivial things..in the newspaper that is..
but as time goes by..I realise that the lack of smile doesnt necessarily mean lack of manners or kindness..and I end up fallin in love with Sydney..

for AK47..as time goes by..i think you will find good things about Singapore too..MRT is excellent, shopping centers open till late (may is not a big deal if you are a male..), food is easy to find, etc..i have just live here for 2 weeks myself..and at this point i still prefer Sydney..however..i think the neighbor grass is always greener..and if you think negative..than thats what will happen..

lets enjoy Singapore..since we are here anyway...

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Re: culture continued

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 25 Dec 2009 1:51 pm

First of all, Merry Xmas even though it's not an Indian holiday (unless you happen to be a minority Christian Indian). You first post was fair dinkum but this one?......
CantervilleGhost wrote:Secondly, the following things are culture:

Traffic lights that turn green for cars and pedestrians at the same time - incorrect as it has nothing to do with culture but everything to do with traffic management - Zebra Crossings & traffic laws govern right of way in the absence of same
Trains that close their doors before everyone has had a chance to get on or off - train doors are automatically controlled and can be manually overridden - if the passengers would adhere to proper entry & egress then there would not be a problem. In order for maximum passenger/miles to be acceptable, then the trains have to keep to a schedule as it affect all trains on the line due to inbuilt safety measures the prevent trains from rear ending one another (especially so on the driverless trains)
Lift doors that automatically close very soon after opening - again, a problem of inconsiderate behaviour of those entering and exiting same - nothing to do with culture at all. Nobody using manual lifts anymore with a elevator operator - I remember those when I first came here.
Lack of consumer and employee rights
Skin whitening cream
Adverts for flat lets that state 'no indians' - It's not culture, it's the preventions of enclaves or ghetto's. It only means that there are no more quota in that particular block based on the racial makeup of the country.
The highest execution rate per capita in the world - good deal whatever it is.
Outlawing of homosexuality and oral sex - the first part is not outlawed.
Fining you if your maid gets pregnant (making an employer legally responsible for their employee's private life) - not cultural but the law (laws and culture are different - I believe you have somehow intermingled the two.)
Widespread belief that ghosts come out of hell for a month and need burnt pretend money
Journalism that consistently tastes of homilies to primary school children
Widespread belief in the supremacy of the Chinese race and Malay and Indian inferiority - Do the Indians and Malays believe in that? Or is the whole topic finally showing what has been inferred already - that you are a racist yourself?
Cash incentives for uneducated women to get sterilised - Please show us you source or is it like most of your post - just a rant without substance. The cash incentives are for all.
Death sentences administered when evidence is in doubt - conjecture only

Culture is not some sacred monolith that must be preserved at all costs. It is the conditions that affect our lives and behaviour. There is a link, inevitably, between the behaviour of a people and the culture around them.

And finally, Britons who come out to repressive regimes and live there in safety and comfort because of their financial and social position, while hatefully slagging off their home country ARE whingers, to say the least of them.
Britons have one of the fairest and most culturally innovative societies in the world. The greatest literature in the world hands down. Some of the best television. Immensely beautiful and benign countryside. Lovely weather. Superb quality food. Genuine politics. The best comedy, arguably. ("Arguably" - the only thing said so far that is correct) There's a lot wrong and things are very challenging there at the moment, but complaining about that IS whinging. Not seeing that you have any responsibility towards your mother country, after all it has given you and the world, is pathetic. Those of us who love our country know that our achievements didn't just happen by chance. But rather than protect and defend it, they disown it and prostitute themselves to some other emerging culture that looks down on them - a culture that believes in the myth that Britain is doomed, a myth they are so eager to invest in. Wake up. It's not just about money and clean streets.
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So. Based on your last paragraph, why are you here. :roll:

Have a good holiday weekend. :cool:
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Post by SGBoyxxx » Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:34 am

:oops: well well..

even I am a local here I also cannot stand it.

yup this is the culture here..

sometimes is due to the society here .

But there is still nice local singaporeans :)

I do see they give up seats to elderly .

Nice drivers who give way.

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Post by guerrilla_panda » Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:53 am

I don't mind the pushing and shoving as much as I mind the flagrant nose-picking! Use a tissue/do it in private, and please don't flick it in my direction!
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:42 pm

guerrilla_panda wrote:I don't mind the pushing and shoving as much as I mind the flagrant nose-picking! Use a tissue/do it in private, and please don't flick it in my direction!
How about if they do it American Style like in the movie Caddy Shack! "Bet he eats it!" :P :lol:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: culture continued

Post by Vaucluse » Sun, 27 Dec 2009 3:09 pm

CantervilleGhost wrote:blah blah bla bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah blah blah bla bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah blah blah bla bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah blah blah bla bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah blah blah bla bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah blah blah bla bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah

Britons have one of the fairest and most culturally innovative societies in the world.

Is that a fact? Hence the racial tension all over the smelly Isles


The greatest literature in the world hands down.

Really? Far greater than French or German? Italian, Spanish? I presume that you read other countries' literature?

Some of the best television.

:lol:

Immensely beautiful and benign countryside.

Benign? Benign countryside?


Lovely weather.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This proves that you are a troll!!!!!!!!


Superb quality food.

Yes, England certainly has some of the best Indian cuisine around


Genuine politics.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Freak me out . . . you ARE a troll!!!!



:lol: :lol: Weather and politics . . .


A good troll effort 8/10. It would have been 10/10 if you would have added 'Most beautiful women' and best dental care.
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Post by blued3838 » Sun, 27 Dec 2009 6:32 pm

snowqueen wrote:After 7 months of being here I have experienced some extremely rude behavour but it's not just from Singaporeans though.

Recently at Parkway Parade, I was holding the door open for my mum as she was pushing my son's stroller when 4 other white people (not sure if UK, Oz or US) walked through the door and not one of them said thank you. I just shouted after them "I'm not a f**king door wedge you know"!!. They didn't even acknowledge me.

Whilst I was pregnant I rarely got a seat on the MRT and I even had the odd auntie physically man-handle me out the way to get a seat - I would have given her the seat anyway.

My current beef is the fact that I have to wait ages for a lift at MRT stations because they are full of able-bodied young people who can't be arsed to use the escalators or stairs.

This often happens in shopping centres where I've wait for 2/3 lifts to come which are again full of people who are able to walk. I then have to take my stroller up and down escalators which can sometimes cause me to get evil stares. I just can't win.

With all the little things I've seen along the way, I would still rather be here than the UK. I consider myself to be very lucky to be here.
I totally agree with you, there are really alot of inconsiderate people around.

I'm a local who has lived in Aust for several years and when I came back, I really cannot tolerate certain behavious of people in Spore.

They do not give way while walking, they do not give way when rushing into an MRT train, they do not give way while shopping for groceries, they do not give way when the life doors open, they do not give way at almost every place you go.

The difference between here and Aust is that I feel safer here while out at night. In terms of politeness, Aust is much better.

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Post by blued3838 » Sun, 27 Dec 2009 6:38 pm

snowqueen wrote:After 7 months of being here I have experienced some extremely rude behavour but it's not just from Singaporeans though.

Recently at Parkway Parade, I was holding the door open for my mum as she was pushing my son's stroller when 4 other white people (not sure if UK, Oz or US) walked through the door and not one of them said thank you. I just shouted after them "I'm not a f**king door wedge you know"!!. They didn't even acknowledge me.

Whilst I was pregnant I rarely got a seat on the MRT and I even had the odd auntie physically man-handle me out the way to get a seat - I would have given her the seat anyway.

My current beef is the fact that I have to wait ages for a lift at MRT stations because they are full of able-bodied young people who can't be arsed to use the escalators or stairs.

This often happens in shopping centres where I've wait for 2/3 lifts to come which are again full of people who are able to walk. I then have to take my stroller up and down escalators which can sometimes cause me to get evil stares. I just can't win.

With all the little things I've seen along the way, I would still rather be here than the UK. I consider myself to be very lucky to be here.
Oh I made typo in my earlier msg, it should be ''lift doors'' not ''life doors'', cheers.

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Re: culture continued

Post by Vaucluse » Mon, 28 Dec 2009 2:18 pm

CantervilleGhost wrote: The greatest literature in the world hands down.

Lovely weather.

Genuine politics.

Just re-read the post . . . :lol: :lol: :lol: Brilliant troll!!!!!

I do have a few Brit friends and they had a bit of a laugh as well . . . where did this regal dinosaur spring from?

weather, politics and greatest literature in the world!!!!! I'm sure Kant, Hegel, Schiller, Goethe, Brecht, Heine, Balzac, Baudelaire etc.... would piss themselves laughing at this insular Neanderthal. . . Image
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Re: culture continued

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