American Club and Tanglin Club?

[taxico]

I think the author of that letter is themselves racist. They bring in the racial argument in point one even though the rule is for foreign membership not mentioning race. It does not stipulate what race a foreigner must be. Then they say by having set foreign rules its racist to exclude Singaporeans. Isnt that discriminatory on nationality not race.

singaporeans tend to mis-use the "race" word. i haven't seen that word being used so liberally anywhere else...

in fact, i think most non-singaporeans try to avoid having to use it.

[QRM]

Fair point but how would they know if you said you were here on business or leisure?

Having a Singapore registered car is a bit of a giveaway, plus most clubs require an original letter of introduction from the reciprocal club and those letters have a sell by date a month after its issued.

[Nath21]

My club letter dosent have a use by date. When I travel a lot to one country my club gives me an open letter to the recipricol club. As long as you are not taking excessive liberties with the club like attending it every day they have no problems. I realise you are not following the rules here if your PR in Singapore but if I am only going tto this club infrequently I cant see the harm. The clubs are meant to foster friendship, fellowship and usage hence the recripical nature of these clubs.

[cbavasi]

I suppose when the first question they asked me was "Do you live here?" and I answered "yes" that was a giveaway

[jimbo]

Its a common misconception. They don't have a cap on locals but the rules say that no one nationality can exceed 51%. Apparently Singaporeans have already exceeded that so no way any more locals can get in till the % drops below 51%.

Also, apparently the member who introduces you to the club is responsible for you during your first year as a member i.e. if you commit some major boo boo and get called up to meet the Committee, the poor fella has to go with you and explain your actions. And if you chalk up a bill and run off without paying, the poor fella might end up having to pay for you!

Anyway, back to the original thread title. I'd say it depends on your preference. Am Club is more liberal and is less strict. Tanglin has 101 rules. You can't even wear T shirts with "loud" print whatever that means!

Am Club definitely is more child friendly and has tons more facilities for youngsters. Tanglin is NOT for kids PERIOD. A tiny playroom for toddlers and that's it. And many places don't allow kids below 14 years.

But if you prefer peace and quiet, then Tanglin is for you. Far fewer kids running around. Am Club is PACKED with kids.

Tanglin is more traditional. Very British. Am Club is..... well...... American. Tanglin's membership isn't transferable so if you don't like it, you're stuck. You can't sell it. You can resign but you get nothing back. At least you can sell your Am Club membership.

[cbavasi]

At least you can sell your Am Club membership.

This is only if you buy a transferrable membership. It's about $80k vs. 20k and you have to give a portion back to the club.

[jimbo]

At least you can sell your Am Club membership.

This is only if you buy a transferrable membership. It's about $80k vs. 20k and you have to give a portion back to the club.

I guess it depends how much you actually get back. But for Tanglin you get back zilch.

Anyway the main problem with Tanglin is
(1) You need to know two members to introduce you. If you're new to Singapore, how are you expected to know people let alone members?

(2) Waitlist. No doubt expat waitlist is a lot faster than locals but who wants to wait several months when other clubs offer almost instant membership?