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PEP with two P2s

Post by alijtihad » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 8:11 pm

Hi,

I have been working in Singapore since November 2006 and I would like to apply for a PEP. The requirement states that as P2 pass holder you would need to spend 2 years working in Singapore; I am fulfilling this requirement, however, I changed my job in August 07 and my new company issued a new P2 pass (although my FIN stayed the same). Would anyone know if this might cause a problem with the approval a PEP?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:57 pm

Shouldn't pose any problem. Usually you can take their statements at face value. They don't indicate anywhere, for any of the longevity requirements for the various passes that you need to be with a sole employer for the duration.
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Post by cbavasi » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 4:58 pm

alijtihad - My husband was approved for a PEP a couple of months ago with the same work history as you (working in Singapore with one company from 2006 then new company from April 2008 - under same FIN). We applied online and the approval came through in 2 weeks.

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Post by alijtihad » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 9:38 pm

Thanks for your replies! I will give it a go and see what happens!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:12 pm

cbavasi wrote:alijtihad - My husband was approved for a PEP a couple of months ago with the same work history as you (working in Singapore with one company from 2006 then new company from April 2008 - under same FIN). We applied online and the approval came through in 2 weeks.
It doesn't matter if he has 10 jobs, he will always have the same FIN just like PR/Citizens always have the same NRIC numbers. The FIN is also his tax reference number as well.
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Post by Gypsy Queen » Thu, 19 Mar 2009 4:41 pm

What about if you have a q1 and have held it for about 2 and a half years, is it worth trying or will it be outrightly refused?? Was also thinking about upping it to p1 level then trying to apply?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 19 Mar 2009 6:56 pm

If it doesn't meet the minimum requirement that more than likely it will be refused outright. They are, after all, only civil servants, so they are not allowed to think outside of the box.

How are you going to up it to a P1 level without having shown the taxable income for the past several years at that level? :roll:
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Post by alijtihad » Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:44 pm

Got approved without problems. - thanks for all your advice.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 26 Mar 2009 7:15 am

:wink:
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Post by tatuanui » Sun, 23 Aug 2009 7:06 pm

I have only been here since April on a P1 EP. Not long after I got my EP MOM sent me a letter offering me a PEP.
Should I feel special? I think everyone on P1 gets offered it.
Should I grab it with both hands or are there disadvantages?
What happens when it expires after 5 yrs and is non-renewable? Do I just go back to having an EP with the employer du jour? Or do I have to leave and apply to come back on EP etc?
I must admit, I kinda like the idea of being able to change employers without hassle. Also, it means my employer's not liable for my wife (that's another long story) which is less hassle too.

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Post by sierra2469alpha » Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:26 pm

tatanui - Sundaymorningstaple and Strong Eagle will have better knowledge of this than me, but when we looked at PEP (again P1 holders) we saw that it's issued once and only once (although this is a while ago now). If the masters of the area could confirm this may help them out.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 1:37 am

tatuanui wrote:I have only been here since April on a P1 EP. Not long after I got my EP MOM sent me a letter offering me a PEP.
Should I feel special? I think everyone on P1 gets offered it.
Should I grab it with both hands or are there disadvantages?
What happens when it expires after 5 yrs and is non-renewable? Do I just go back to having an EP with the employer du jour? Or do I have to leave and apply to come back on EP etc?
I must admit, I kinda like the idea of being able to change employers without hassle. Also, it means my employer's not liable for my wife (that's another long story) which is less hassle too.
It's idea, provided which you are very unsecure about your position. As you have only been here a short time, and you came during the recession, if you are feeling unsecure, I would have to ask why you took up the position in the first place. However, that aside, let's look at it from a different perspective.

Rather than retyping see my post 3/4 the way down the thread:

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic62984.html

The scenario is the same except he hasn't arrived here yet. But the mechanics are the same.

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Post by tatuanui » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 9:11 am

Thanks guys!

Actually, I'm not insecure about my current job. Let's just say I've had a few expressions of interest from other employers. Maybe I'll wait to see if anything changes before deciding to take up the PEP if necessary/advantageous. There doesn't seem to be any expiry of the offer.

I had a bit of hassle with my wife's dependants pass as, because my employer sponsored me, only they could sponsor her. They objected to being responsible for her. After much dragging of feet and me sending my wife home once per month when her visa was about to expire, they finally got me to sign a letter saying that I was responsible for her and then applied for her DP. That's fair enough, it was just the dragging of the feet over it and the hassle and insecurity of the situation. A PEP would eliminate that problem in the future.

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