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Are you a personal trainer? Do you know of FISAF

Postby notwavingdrowning » Tue, 10 Mar 2009 5:51 pm

This email is addressed to people in the fitness industry. DO you know about FISAF?

I want to do a course with them, but do not know if they are the right place to go? Where did you do your training? I have just read on this forum that there are a lot of shonky trainers around...I have cut and pasted the info below from their website....

The Federation of International Sports, Aerobics and Fitness is the largest fitness industry organisation in the world. It is a non-profit democratic independent organisation controlled by its members. FISAF members form a synergistic network of expertise, resources and activities to support the development of the fitness and aerobics industries in over 40 countries. All graduates of a FISAF International Training Course receive an internationally accepted FISAF certificate.

They seem good...but I dont want to do a course that is laughed at by people in the know :wink:
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Postby pakjohn » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:21 am

I'd be interested in that too, would you mind sharing your learning? I'll check around as well.
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Postby BodyBlitz » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 2:37 am

There are so many certification body that its becoming ludicrous -
NSCA/ACSM/ACE/FISAF/ISSA/NASM, tons more that i've not uncovered.

Most renown coaches and trainers are NSCA - CPT/CSCS or NASM - PES/CPT/CES - Some require degrees(don't have to be sports related) some don't.

In my opinion for a starting phase, NASM has many out of the book solutions for trainers to use as its accompanied with videos and it addresses about posture and dysfunction with the imbalances.

That said, NASM certification is one of the better one and what i'm looking at right now too just for marketing.
I've learnt most of my skills with experience, listening, reading articles and books and watching instructional DVDs by Michael Boyle - functional Strength coach 1, Gray Cook, Dr. Stuart Mcgill and Shirley Sarhmann' stuff - list can go on and on. Socializing with many therapist/doctors to even bodybuilders for their views and perspective and constantly reading up on research and articles every other day just to keep in touch on whats going on.

However it depends on where you want to specialize in, general fitness/athletic strength coach/physique - bodybuilder/rehab which where I'm currently working towards more.

It really depends on the level of knowledge from your own experience level as a lifter/gym rat/coach and the competency of your hands on knowledge- There are many courses here, www.humanprinciples.com and where you want to cater for your niche clientele.

In truth, nobody cares which certification you hold or what you know as long as you can get them results safely and effectively. You can even be an average joe who knows what he's doing and still be an effective trainer.

That said, certifications are just preliminary knowledge which have been compiled together and put into a package; if you've been snooping around sites like T-nation or even bodybuilding forums you'll get the gist of it all just in more details based in science.

However you cannot end with just that cert because the world of strength and conditioning is ever changing with new research/reviews and studies and the methods are always updating itself.

Some of the medical professions here are guilty of that, that i'm really losing confidence of their effectiveness.

You'll need to always be investing in your education and refining your training system by going to seminars/reading books/watching DVDs/experimenting for more effective results and i can safely tell you that the things you learn from some of these certification are useless in real world setting most of the time.

However as I've mentioned, always opt for Hands on workshop and always seek an established mentor. I've seen many trainers who do stupid things with the clients and prescribed lousy programs and seen their clients with lousy form for lifting. Its so bad that it makes the profession a joke.

If you need more information, you can always ask and i'll be glad to share with you more.
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Postby jezzman » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:58 am

I am currently getting ready to do my Personal Fitness Trainer exam with ISSA. Internation Sports and Sceince Association. I just need to find a place in Singapore, where I can get a CPR/AED Certification.

I'm happy about the material I've gone through and my own training have been improved dramatically.

http://www.issaonline.com/

However I agree with the previous poster who said it was all about the person. That is true. I've seen awful trainers who was extremely fit and extremely unfit trainers who was extremely good trainers. It's not certification it's the person and the motivator.

Please get back to me with questions if any?
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Postby BodyBlitz » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:36 pm

http://www.firstaidtraining.com.sg/web/

Get the AHA - international one.
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Postby notwavingdrowning » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 7:27 pm

Thank you so much for all your feedback, its been very helpful...But now I am more confused than ever!!! Just some info on the course am looking at..Is this similar to what you all have done?

I have cut and pasted the following...Begin with FISAF Singapore Core Course, it is for those who do not have any back ground in fitness education. The course content include the fundamental of Functional Anatomy I, Muscle Physiology, Mechanics Of Movement and many more other interesting topics.

http://www.fisaf.com.sg/courseoutline.asp# If you want to check it out..

This is not a certificate course- more an intro to fitness, it runs 5 full days for $650.00...I would like to do this course as a prior step to the 2 week PT course which is accredited...See below the structure for the course..I like the sound of it...Mind you i liked the sound Of Jezzmans course, as it was from the USA and the FISAF is not accredited there..but as you say, its not the certificate but the person that mattters...

STEP 1: Sign up for the Level One - Core Course if you are a novice. $650.00

STEP 2: Select one or more Specialist Electives at Level Two.
* Aerobic & Group Exercise Instructor $1000.00
* Fitness Leader Same as above..
* Aqua Instructor " "

STEP 3: Select Level Three - FISAF Personal Trainer Course.
N.B. You will need to complete a First Aid Certificate in order to become a registered instructor $1200.00

So all up looking at up to 4 grand...So I dont want to get this wrong...

How do you manage a course like this via correspondance??? especially the exams etc..

Sorry to sound so jumbled..
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Postby jezzman » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 7:27 pm

BodyBlitz wrote:http://www.firstaidtraining.com.sg/web/

Get the AHA - international one.


What is the difference between Heartsaver CPR and the Heartsaver AED Course (?)
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Postby jezzman » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 7:34 pm

notwavingdrowning wrote:Thank you so much for all your feedback, its been very helpful...But now I am more confused than ever!!! Just some info on the course am looking at..Is this similar to what you all have done?

I have cut and pasted the following...Begin with FISAF Singapore Core Course, it is for those who do not have any back ground in fitness education. The course content include the fundamental of Functional Anatomy I, Muscle Physiology, Mechanics Of Movement and many more other interesting topics.

http://www.fisaf.com.sg/courseoutline.asp# If you want to check it out..

This is not a certificate course- more an intro to fitness, it runs 5 full days for $650.00...I would like to do this course as a prior step to the 2 week PT course which is accredited...See below the structure for the course..I like the sound of it...Mind you i liked the sound Of Jezzmans course, as it was from the USA and the FISAF is not accredited there..but as you say, its not the certificate but the person that mattters...

STEP 1: Sign up for the Level One - Core Course if you are a novice. $650.00

STEP 2: Select one or more Specialist Electives at Level Two.
* Aerobic & Group Exercise Instructor $1000.00
* Fitness Leader Same as above..
* Aqua Instructor " "

STEP 3: Select Level Three - FISAF Personal Trainer Course.
N.B. You will need to complete a First Aid Certificate in order to become a registered instructor $1200.00

So all up looking at up to 4 grand...So I dont want to get this wrong...

How do you manage a course like this via correspondance??? especially the exams etc..

Sorry to sound so jumbled..


I think some of the initial courses in your introduction is very basic.

The ISSA exam is online. You get a book and there are online tests after you've read each chapter, it's very easy. The exam can be accessed once you've completed at least 66% of the chapter tests.

The exam consists of:

SECTION I: The first part of your Certified Fitness Trainer Examination is worth 200 points and consists of 50 true/false questions (2 points each) and 50 multiple-choice questions (2 points each)

SECTION II: The second part of your Certified Fitness Trainer Examination is worth 400 points and consists of 60 practical, illustrated multiple-choice and matching questions (2 points each); 2 case studies, including calculations (80 points each); and 6 learning experiences (20 points each).

The total point value of the entire exam is 600 points. A passing score of 75% or better is required on each section of the exam. Certification will be granted only when all sections have been completed with a passing score. Any student that receives a non-passing score on a section of the exam will be notified and given an opportunity to re-do that section.


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Postby BodyBlitz » Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:01 pm

jezzman wrote:
BodyBlitz wrote:http://www.firstaidtraining.com.sg/web/

Get the AHA - international one.


What is the difference between Heartsaver CPR and the Heartsaver AED Course (?)


The certification body that is recognized by the organization.
I doubt there'll be any difference on how CPR can be performed.
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