Im not a PR, can I find work with a LSV Pass?

St Georgie · Post by **St Georgie** » Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:17 am

Hi all

Im just wondering if anyone is in the same boat as me?

I moved over here with my partner who was transferred to Singapore through is work. He was easily able to get a work Pass, the company dealt with all the paperwork etc so that was not a problem. However, I am in Singapore on a renewable 2 year Long-Stay Social Visit Pass, that was the only pass that I was eligible for me as we are not yet married.

I was not able to transfer to Singapore (as there was no office!) so I have been applying for literally hundreds of jobs. I come from a Legal/Banking PA/Sec background and have worked for some very well known Banks but this, together with bags of experience, doesnt seem to make a difference at all, as all jobs in this field appear to be for Singaporeans and Perm Residents only. Now im not complaining about this issue, as I can understand jobs should first be allocated to the locals and it is a very sensitive issue, but I am just enquiring as to the likelihood of me finding work in Singapore as ive been searching for around 9 months now.

Can anyone advise me? Have there been any success stories from people in a similar situation?

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Tue, 03 Mar 2009 1:54 pm

As the recession grips further it's going to get even harder. Not being on an Dependents pass makes it difficult without having any qualifications (paper ones). Additionally, without any special qualifications a prospective employer would be hard pressed to justify hiring a foreigner when there are probably hundreds of local/PR's who would work out just fine and probably for less money as well.

It sucks. But with the current economy, it's going to get worse, not better in the short term.

sms

St Georgie · Post by **St Georgie** » Tue, 03 Mar 2009 6:23 pm

Hey

Many thanks for your reply, I kind of guessed that was part of the reason. Although I do have plenty of necessary qualifications, it doesnt beat a degree over here which is what most companies are interested in, although if I had a degree I sure as hell wouldnt be doing this kind of work! Experience and career history doesnt count for much here unfortunately. I think I'll use my time in Singapore wisely and study something that I didnt have time for in the UK, I think a whole new career path is in order, whilst I continue to apply like hell for jobs and hope for a sweet miracle in the meantime

chloegemma · Post by **chloegemma** » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 9:22 pm

Thanks - this info is useful to me too!

bigmango · Post by **bigmango** » Fri, 20 Mar 2009 1:36 pm

Hi There,

If LSV is the issue for you, you should try applying for Dependent Pass because I am in your situation for not being marry but I apply for DP along with proofs ie. joint bank account , housing loan and Statue of Dec. and got the DP without any problem.

I just got here a couple months and have not seriously apply for any companies but my girlfriend's company.So, I am not sure if it really solve your problem but you should go for DP first and see if it helps.

Good Luck

singstyle · Post by **singstyle** » Wed, 25 Mar 2009 6:19 pm

Thanks for this info - I am also in this boat; moved here with my "man" friend and his company sponsered me for a Long Term Visitors pass.

Does anyone know if there are any special conditions or relevant passes which will enable me to start freelancing...? Someone told me I can work part time (up to 8 hours) on a non-employment pass - are they pulling my leg...?

SmartDude · Post by **SmartDude** » Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:15 am

Hi all,
I managed to get LTVP for my wife and thought her Long 7 years of work experience in admin/accounting will help her to get employment here. But as the time passed for 7 months without no luck of work for her, i feel i made a terrible mistake getting her here

We have been continuously looking for job but still no avail. Now the time is worse than before and her visa is also of few months left i see the chances are bleak, i am freaked out completely of these worst things going on with me. My wife is frustrated also but still she is happy i am here with her. Is this job hunting issue for foreigners only happening here or worldwide ? I even heard that MOM has stopped issuing S Pass which is more difficult for us. OH MY GOD WHY THE LIFE IS GETTING SO HARD HERE.. The situations i am facing is a nightmare, which i never dreamed of.
Friends, is here any place where you can go and take out your frustration. I feel like shouting so loud that my vocal will say have mercy on me. But ofcourse without disturbing others/surrounding. If you know some place then plz do mind to give me the address. Thanks. I feel bit lighter from heart typing so much here on this forum.... GOD DAMMIT WHY ITS HAPPENING TO ME....I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BAD TO ANYBODY.. WHY ME.....

ksl · Post by **ksl** » Fri, 03 Apr 2009 1:07 pm

You can all drop me your emails on the PM, I cannot guarantee anything, but we do use different promoters for different target segments, for Chinese, Indian, Malay and westerners, ect.

Also we occassionally do a roadshow in the shopping malls, targeting tourists, and foreigners, so the more names we have the better, The approval will have to be requested from MOM, but they are pretty helpful in saying yes or no.

But I am not promising anything just now, although we are quite busy in roadshows and exhibitions. LTVP cannot work on, also SE said one can also register with the American club for job seekers, PM him for more information.

It sucks, I know to be here without anything to do, because I have also been in the same situation in the past.

Although you can freelance outside of the country and have your money paid into your home account, you will also find it a little easier, if you integrate into the community a little more, maybe helping out at charities, childrens homes, and such.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Fri, 03 Apr 2009 3:27 pm

How did you get an LTSVP for your wife? She should be on a Dependent's Pass. Or, she isn't actually your wife but de facto?

It's happening world wide. Even our illegal immigrants in the US are returning to Mexico because there aren't any jobs. Guess what. She should be thankful that she's got someone who is still able to pay the bills. At least for the time being...... nobody is secure at the moment. You would be wise to remember that as well.

She should volunteer at some of the charities here. Who knows, they might even pick her up on a payroll later if she proves indispensable.

SmartDude wrote:Hi all,
I managed to get LTVP for my wife and thought her Long 7 years of work experience in admin/accounting will help her to get employment here. But as the time passed for 7 months without no luck of work for her, i feel i made a terrible mistake getting her here We have been continuously looking for job but still no avail. Now the time is worse than before and her visa is also of few months left i see the chances are bleak, i am freaked out completely of these worst things going on with me. My wife is frustrated also but still she is happy i am here with her. Is this job hunting issue for foreigners only happening here or worldwide ? I even heard that MOM has stopped issuing S Pass which is more difficult for us. OH MY GOD WHY THE LIFE IS GETTING SO HARD HERE.. The situations i am facing is a nightmare, which i never dreamed of.
Friends, is here any place where you can go and take out your frustration. I feel like shouting so loud that my vocal will say have mercy on me. But ofcourse without disturbing others/surrounding. If you know some place then plz do mind to give me the address. Thanks. I feel bit lighter from heart typing so much here on this forum.... GOD DAMMIT WHY ITS HAPPENING TO ME....I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BAD TO ANYBODY.. WHY ME.....

SmartDude · Post by **SmartDude** » Mon, 06 Apr 2009 5:18 pm

Hi SMS,
Thanks for your nice and kinds words, i was keeping my eye on this post for your reply. Well regarding HOW question, i made an application to MOM and they approve it. DONE. As you say volunteer at charities, i have no idea. U have some websites like those organisations which i could check ? Thanks and waiting for your reply... Guess what i am having really hard time but i am smiling and happy with my wife

Hoping for the best

sundaymorningstaple wrote:How did you get an LTSVP for your wife? She should be on a Dependent's Pass. Or, she isn't actually your wife but de facto?

It's happening world wide. Even our illegal immigrants in the US are returning to Mexico because there aren't any jobs. Guess what. She should be thankful that she's got someone who is still able to pay the bills. At least for the time being...... nobody is secure at the moment. You would be wise to remember that as well. She should volunteer at some of the charities here. Who knows, they might even pick her up on a payroll later if she proves indispensable.

SmartDude wrote:Hi all,
I managed to get LTVP for my wife and thought her Long 7 years of work experience in admin/accounting will help her to get employment here. But as the time passed for 7 months without no luck of work for her, i feel i made a terrible mistake getting her here We have been continuously looking for job but still no avail. Now the time is worse than before and her visa is also of few months left i see the chances are bleak, i am freaked out completely of these worst things going on with me. My wife is frustrated also but still she is happy i am here with her. Is this job hunting issue for foreigners only happening here or worldwide ? I even heard that MOM has stopped issuing S Pass which is more difficult for us. OH MY GOD WHY THE LIFE IS GETTING SO HARD HERE.. The situations i am facing is a nightmare, which i never dreamed of.
Friends, is here any place where you can go and take out your frustration. I feel like shouting so loud that my vocal will say have mercy on me. But ofcourse without disturbing others/surrounding. If you know some place then plz do mind to give me the address. Thanks. I feel bit lighter from heart typing so much here on this forum.... GOD DAMMIT WHY ITS HAPPENING TO ME....I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BAD TO ANYBODY.. WHY ME.....

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Mon, 06 Apr 2009 6:22 pm

SmartDude,

You didn't really answer my question. Is your wife legally your wife? If so, she should be on a dependent's pass and not an LTSVP. If you can get her on a dependents pass, while difficult, she might find it a little easier as she can work without any employment pass at all. All she needs is for the employer to file for a "letter of Consent" from MOM and she can work. Her working visa will be tied to your employment pass and would have your expiry date on it as well. You will need to go to the MOM site and ready up on "Letter of Consent" to understand fully.

sms

SmartDude · Post by **SmartDude** » Thu, 07 May 2009 1:25 pm

Hi SMS,
Yes she is my lawfully wedded wife. The unfortunate thing is i am on S Pass and i can only get LTVP for my spouse which she has now. My mistake here is i thought her years of work experience will help her land a job here. BTW have you any information regarding volunteer works which she can be involved legally ? Thanks SMS for your attention..

winger7 · Post by **winger7** » Thu, 07 May 2009 1:43 pm

Hey guys I just had a question relating to this. Say I decide to move to Singapore and look for a job there...its the E pass that will allow me to stay there for a year to look for a job...correct? I've also heard from members in this forum that SMC gets passes done for you, but I did go to SMC and ask personally and the lady said that any sort of a pass can only be obtained after I land in Singapore...anyone have an answer especially regarding SMC?

lulu1234 · Post by **lulu1234** » Thu, 07 May 2009 2:57 pm

winger7 wrote:Hey guys I just had a question relating to this. Say I decide to move to Singapore and look for a job there...its the E pass that will allow me to stay there for a year to look for a job...correct? I've also heard from members in this forum that SMC gets passes done for you, but I did go to SMC and ask personally and the lady said that any sort of a pass can only be obtained after I land in Singapore...anyone have an answer especially regarding SMC?

Yeah, you can get Visit Pass once you land in Singapore but you cannot work using this Pass. SMC can help you to apply for a Landed Permanent Residence status with a fee of about S$1500 (no guarantee of success). The processing time is about 3-6 months. Once you get the LPR, you are allowed to stay for 1 year in Singapore while looking for job. Once you get a job, you can convert your LPR to a full SPR status. If you can't get a job within 1 year, the LPR will be expired and you hv to go home. The catch is you must be at least a degree holder with experience.

The cheaper options are getting a job first, then apply for EP/S-Pass/WP to MOM, not SMC. But all these 3 passes are tied to employer's quota & employee's salary.

winger7 · Post by **winger7** » Thu, 07 May 2009 7:26 pm

Thanks lulu1234, sorry but...if I didnt process my pass thru SMC then I would have to do it after I land in sg then right...I think one would need quite a lot of savings but I do feel confident to be able to get a job within 4 or 5 months tho...and yes i do have a university degree with 1 year of customer service experience...it should be 2 by then, or maybe a year in another field...

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