Let me fix that spelling for you.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Falung Gulang (Sp!)

I think this is more for practical reason/convenience than racism. Imagine you rent a room for a 3-bedroom, you will feel more at ease if all are girls. You can hang all your underwear in the kitchen or toilet and its less of an issue.Trekka wrote:But...if it is so racially harmonious, as nahsiep states, why do I see so many "racial" stipulations when I am browsing the Real Estate Rental pages: "No Indians" "No Women" "No Singles" "Muslims Need Not Apply" etc..This is the type of things I have never seen in any country I have lived in and that now totals 5, including 2 in Asia. So for a supposedly modern, tolerant city, I find this interesting.
Unless you're running dope, pulling scams or committing felonies, you would have nothing to worry about so long as the cops here are concerned. I'm usually complaining these days that there ISN'T enough police presence on the island, thus my perception (right or mistaken) of more crime and fighting incidences everywhere. Compared to China, crime here is very low, and I trust the Sg cops anytime compared to those guys in Beijing anytime, especially when it comes to laws and quality of policing! Your 160k should be ok so long as you don't live like an oil sheikh here, all depends on your own ways and means.Trekka wrote:I am being relocated to Singapore and am worried of the prospect of living there. Can any expats tell me how day to day living is there and do you feel uneasy about it. Singapore has such a bad reputation of being a police state, what with all the obscure laws and political supression...is this felt or noticed in day to day life? I have searched all the forums and blogs for info, and there is so much about internet censorship, arrests for small things, public flogging or public humiliation that I am getting the impression that Singapore sounds a horrid place to live.
I have been there 4 times for holidays and although it seems safe and very sterile if somewhat boring, living there is different to a holiday.
Before you all "jump up and down" in defence of an expat life and the like, I have been living in China for the past 8 years, so I am an old hand at expat life...and in a communist country for that matter...but Singapore is just scaring the crap out of me, compared to life in China....help allay my fears.
Also...the cost of living seems outrageous ...can I live and save on 160K SGD a year comfortably, or will it be tough.???
Well, There IS racism on this island, no doubt about it, but its less overt and violent than in the west. No ones scrawls stuffs on neighbour's walls, starts a fire outside the local kebab joint, initiates a fight with minorities here and then shoot or maim them in the heat of argument, cops here don't pull minorities over, taze or beat them up, toss them in for "disorderly conduct" and then drop all charges the next morning, all that stuff you don't see here. True, some of the ads reflect some degree of stereotyping gone wrong, (and I am actually in favor of punitive sanctions against the offenders) but by and large, its nothing compared to stuff outside the region. When my ex- who's white came to Sg, the ones who gave us a hard time were HER fellow whites (at Tanglin, Brit or Aussies, definitely NOT Americans!) and two locals (who were minorities themselves!). No one else gave us any beef, people were actually nice to us! Back in Europe, we got accosted quite a few times, usually she handles them, and one time I had to break the nose of some schmuck just to demand an apology. So much for Sg being just as racist as the west. Gotta call a spade a spade here, Sg's pretty tame in this area, other irritations not withstandingsundaymorningstaple wrote:It's only the locals who say it isn't racist here. In fact, racism exists here like everywhere else on the planet. The problem here is that the locals have been brainwashed to not see it for what it is. We've had the discussion till the cows came home here time and time again. It's peaceful here because the minorities accept the racism as it's still better than they had before. Doesn't make it any more right or palatable but the end result, or should I say the veneer looks good to the rest of the world and allows them to break their arms trying to pat themselves on the back.
You see, they are pragmatic in the sense of 'if I say something I know I'll get locked up without ever being charged' cause the government still keeps the Internal Securities Act on the books which allow for detention with being charged and with no time limits.
The reason that the advertisements (regarding homes for sale), say the things that they do, is not so much because of racism (although a lot is related to ones race), but because of the government sanctioned racism that limits quota in every HDB estate down to the block level as to how many of each race can live there. The majority race, of course, doesn't really notice this policy as it rarely ever impacts them. The minorities however are always hindered where they can live as the quota's for them are based on the current population racial densities. This is in effect regardless of how much money you have or are willing to pay for the unit.
Regarding rentals, yes, pure flat out racism, but disguised as a preference because of things like cooking styles (cooking with heavy spices & ghee will permeate anything made of wood and will turn rancid eventually. When someone who cooks those types of foods, then when they more out, it usually entails a complete renovation of the unit as it's about the only way to rid the place of the lingering aromas which other races find offensive. Thereby causing the landlords to have to ask for lesser rentals or keep those races who cook that way out in the first place. Sounds wrong and shouldn't be allowed, but which is worse......
....to know up front and not bother to go OR to go and have the landlord take one look at the prospective renter and tell them it's already been rented even though you might have been the first to view the unit?
Take it with a grain of salt (more like a shovel full).
There are only 4 New Years celebrated here not 5 (I am surprised that nahseip would say that, being a local an all. The multiple new year celebrations are but a sop to the minorities just like the GRC's. The GRC's were formed for two reasons, one to let minorities become MP in the government but to also keep them from gaining too much of a foothold by allowing them to hold single seat constituencies in parliament. This way the minorities feel they have a say but also allows the majority to still hold the reigns of power without seeming too autocratic (to the local population only - the rest of the world sees it for what it is).
However, having said all that, this is a nice place to work and earn money and even spend a long time here (in my case over quarter of a century) but it's not a place to retire. (At lease from my POV as you cannot relax here ever. It's never quiet and always expensive.
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Now let the flames begin...........again!
If youve lived in China for 8 years, singers will be a piece of cake. Its unbelievably easy to live here, easy meaning you dont get hassled, robbed (well not too often), knifed in the park. Cost of living is not too bad unless youve got the spending habits of a prima donna. The police just cant be arsed, theyre usually seen occupying the food queues at the neighbourhood joints. Lack of human rights, aye maybe if you live on the gaza strip.Trekka wrote:I am being relocated to Singapore and am worried of the prospect of living there. Can any expats tell me how day to day living is there and do you feel uneasy about it. Singapore has such a bad reputation of being a police state, what with all the obscure laws and political supression...is this felt or noticed in day to day life? I have searched all the forums and blogs for info, and there is so much about internet censorship, arrests for small things, public flogging or public humiliation that I am getting the impression that Singapore sounds a horrid place to live.
I have been there 4 times for holidays and although it seems safe and very sterile if somewhat boring, living there is different to a holiday.
Before you all "jump up and down" in defence of an expat life and the like, I have been living in China for the past 8 years, so I am an old hand at expat life...and in a communist country for that matter...but Singapore is just scaring the crap out of me, compared to life in China....help allay my fears.
Also...the cost of living seems outrageous ...can I live and save on 160K SGD a year comfortably, or will it be tough.???
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