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Post by katbh » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 6:20 am

The size of the regulator and nozzle has nothing to do with the brand. All brands carry both types. If you have any problems just look out for the gas man in your street - he will usually be driving a blue truck full of bottles. He will check your connection and carry the right one in for you. My guy charges $32/bottle.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:20 am

katbh wrote:The size of the regulator and nozzle has nothing to do with the brand. All brands carry both types. If you have any problems just look out for the gas man in your street - he will usually be driving a blue truck full of bottles. He will check your connection and carry the right one in for you. My guy charges $32/bottle.
You are patently incorrect, as I have reviewed the flow rates of the regulators used on both the Mobil and Esso bottles... the Mobil regulator has at least a 15 percent higher flow rate... it is stamped on the regulator of both brands. And I have proven this by using both brands of gas bottles on my burner and BBQ.

Mobil and Esso use distinctively different bottles with different fittings and I have never seen a Mobil bottle with an Esso fitting... or vice versa.

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Post by katbh » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:03 pm

You may be correct of course. And I do not want to get in an argument with god.

But all suppliers DO have the two standard types of nozzles - one is called a fat one and the new ones are called skinny!. I know this to be 100% true as I have all three. On my cook top I use town gas, on my wok I use the fat valve and on the bbq I use the skinny. The difference is in each of the regulators.


I have no idea about how the outlet valve can provide different pressure. I would have thought that would have been to do with the pressure in the bottle itself and the type of regulator you use on your appliance - the bit that dangles off your cord - not the valve on the top of the gas bottle.

But hey WTF would I know.....

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Post by katbh » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:06 pm

and BTW - there are at least 4 different brands of gas.

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Post by PNGMK » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 1:01 pm

katbh wrote:You may be correct of course. And I do not want to get in an argument with god.

But all suppliers DO have the two standard types of nozzles - one is called a fat one and the new ones are called skinny!. I know this to be 100% true as I have all three. On my cook top I use town gas, on my wok I use the fat valve and on the bbq I use the skinny. The difference is in each of the regulators.


I have no idea about how the outlet valve can provide different pressure. I would have thought that would have been to do with the pressure in the bottle itself and the type of regulator you use on your appliance - the bit that dangles off your cord - not the valve on the top of the gas bottle.

But hey WTF would I know.....
You need to review your understanding of pV=nRT and flow regulators.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 1:16 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:SMS - primarily, you can get oil up to temperature faster, but as you know, it then needs to be turned down anyway.
So, then I'd have to drink that first beer faster then before getting down to the nitty-gritty with the lowering the bird into the breech! Ah, not that big of a hurry when it only takes 25~30 minutes to cook anyway. ;-)
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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 9:26 am

PNGMK wrote:
katbh wrote:You may be correct of course. And I do not want to get in an argument with god.

But all suppliers DO have the two standard types of nozzles - one is called a fat one and the new ones are called skinny!. I know this to be 100% true as I have all three. On my cook top I use town gas, on my wok I use the fat valve and on the bbq I use the skinny. The difference is in each of the regulators.


I have no idea about how the outlet valve can provide different pressure. I would have thought that would have been to do with the pressure in the bottle itself and the type of regulator you use on your appliance - the bit that dangles off your cord - not the valve on the top of the gas bottle.

But hey WTF would I know.....
You need to review your understanding of pV=nRT and flow regulators.
What he said, katbh. The pressure regulator, which attaches to the gas bottle, is a device which ensures that LPG gas is released at a constant, low pressure from the gas bottle, regardless of what the pressure is in the gas bottle itself. All pressure regulators for BBQ's burners, etc, will release gas at the same pressure.

The difference is in the rate at which gas will be released from the bottle. Some regulators have a high flow rate, others low. In Singapore, my experience is that all regulator types have a relatively low flow rate, compared to the US anyway. The differences between the brands in flow rate are about 15 percent... not a lot... but enough to make a difference in bringing a deep fried turkey back up to temperature after initial insertion into the oil.

"But hey WTF would I know...." Well... not much on this subject, methinks.

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Post by katbh » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 9:32 am

But hang on... you are talking about regulators. Isn't that the bit on your appliance that fits onto the gas bottle?
I am talking about the nozzles for Gas bottles......

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Post by Strong Eagle » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:00 am

katbh wrote:But hang on... you are talking about regulators. Isn't that the bit on your appliance that fits onto the gas bottle?
I am talking about the nozzles for Gas bottles......
Which makes this thread even more meaningless. All gas bottles in Singapore have a built in failsafe valve that cuts gas flow as soon as the regulator is removed. Were you to simply bypass this valve, high pressure gas would flow out at a high rate of speed... indeed, some of America's less that stellar intellects have managed to attach the regulator backwards only to find a small explosion and massive release of gas.

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