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So difficult to find a job in Singapore

Post by cherrykingxu » Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:29 pm

I have been in Singapore for 2 months with a dependent pass and two years marketing working experience in China. And I found it is really difficult to find a marketing related job here. I got several phone calls and after they know I am not a PR, they said they just hired local people...

I felt so upset and where is my job here? Anybody here has any good idea about it?

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Post by Hithnar » Thu, 06 Nov 2008 1:25 am

Same here, but I don't have that much experience. 2 moths and 67 unsuccessful applications on my account ;p Not giving up just yet.

I noticed that a lot of HR ppl have no idea how a DP works, and you really have to explain to them, that in terms of employment you cannot be denied a work permission and do not require any form of sponsorship...

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:03 am

And it isn't going to get any easier with the looming financial crisis deepening. What the government prints in the newspapers about still hiring foreigners is not what actually get translated to the masses when they apply for the positions.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by Hithnar » Thu, 06 Nov 2008 1:19 pm

I sometimes wonder if the whole crisis thing is not just allowing the locals to let out some bad emotions that they have for outsiders and finally legally shut them out a bit. We live with a Chinese couple and they keep pointing at us for having too big salaries and pumping prices, and just cannot digest the fact, that super high expat salaries packed with allowances are long gone :oops:

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Post by calvink » Thu, 06 Nov 2008 2:34 pm

I am extremely concern on the status of my permit....Hmmm...gotta wait longer i guess..arghhhh..

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Nov 2008 4:22 pm

I'll let you guys in on a secret.....

Well, it's not so secret at all......

Most employers fight shy of hiring Asian Expats because then tend to come here, get a job, apply for PR as soon as they have been here 3 or 4 months (now that it's not required that they have company sponsorship) and at the latest 6 months. As soon as they get PR, they quit the employer who went through all the trouble to give them a start here leaving the employer to have to go through the whole process all over again, including possibly training another new employee and possibly even teaching them how to speak properly as well (in a Singapore context - not a real world sense of proper :roll: )

With a looming recession, why bother? They will have ample Locals shortly as retrenchments start climbing.

For you guys trying to get in now, it's going to take a lot of persistence.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by cherrykingxu » Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:57 pm

Hithnar wrote:I sometimes wonder if the whole crisis thing is not just allowing the locals to let out some bad emotions that they have for outsiders and finally legally shut them out a bit. We live with a Chinese couple and they keep pointing at us for having too big salaries and pumping prices, and just cannot digest the fact, that super high expat salaries packed with allowances are long gone :oops:
Hi Hithar, what nationality are you ? Have you got any progess in recent job hunting?
As to the DP, we have let the company to apply a letter of consent, right? Do you know how long it will take?

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Post by cherrykingxu » Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:59 pm

I got two phone calls yesterday that i will have two interview next Tuesday, I extremly hope everything can be done...I need a job ...

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Post by calvink » Fri, 07 Nov 2008 3:45 pm

Hi cherry, did u state on your resume that you are a Non-PR/Local citizens in the first place. I have came across whereby they assume im a Singaporean/PR and call me up for interview only to find out on the spot that i am not one of them, which means the whole interview session is 'fake'. I have since made it clear that on my resume front page that i state my nationality on it.

Good luck in ur interview !...

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Post by Hithnar » Fri, 07 Nov 2008 5:53 pm

cherrykingxu wrote:
Hithnar wrote:I sometimes wonder if the whole crisis thing is not just allowing the locals to let out some bad emotions that they have for outsiders and finally legally shut them out a bit. We live with a Chinese couple and they keep pointing at us for having too big salaries and pumping prices, and just cannot digest the fact, that super high expat salaries packed with allowances are long gone :oops:
Hi Hithar, what nationality are you ? Have you got any progess in recent job hunting?
As to the DP, we have let the company to apply a letter of consent, right? Do you know how long it will take?
I am Polish. Currently I am negotiating with one company, but I don't think they would take me - although they do appreciate the DP, and don't seem to panic to much about getting my work permission, they do however raise the issue of my cultural background.

The company applies for Letter of Consent, and it can take up to few weeks, but I have read somewhere on this forum that it may take even so little as 3 days.

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Re: So difficult to find a job in Singapore

Post by madura » Sat, 08 Nov 2008 1:41 am

cherrykingxu wrote:I have been in Singapore for 2 months with a dependent pass and two years marketing working experience in China. And I found it is really difficult to find a marketing related job here. I got several phone calls and after they know I am not a PR, they said they just hired local people...

I felt so upset and where is my job here? Anybody here has any good idea about it?
there are many Singaporeans with 2 years marketing experience too (and some in China too!). tough luck lady!

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Re: So difficult to find a job in Singapore

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 08 Nov 2008 6:59 am

cherrykingxu wrote:
I felt so upset and where is my job here? Anybody here has any good idea about it?
I hate tell you this but Singapore does not OWE you a job. Only YOUR country owes you a job. So, if you really needs a job, I would suggest that you possibly return to your own country which is currently enjoying 9% growth. Yes, it might not pay as much but at least you won't be taking a local's jobs here.

I find this attitude that Singapore owes you something quite remarkable. Are you a citizen? If not, then they don't OWE you anything at all.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Hi

Post by cherrykingxu » Mon, 10 Nov 2008 9:23 am

calvink wrote:Hi cherry, did u state on your resume that you are a Non-PR/Local citizens in the first place. I have came across whereby they assume im a Singaporean/PR and call me up for interview only to find out on the spot that i am not one of them, which means the whole interview session is 'fake'. I have since made it clear that on my resume front page that i state my nationality on it.

Good luck in ur interview !...
Hi, Calvink, I have stated in my cover letter that I am holding a DP here and also state my nationality in my resume. Anyway, thank you very much for your suggestion.

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Post by cherrykingxu » Mon, 10 Nov 2008 9:28 am

Hithnar wrote:
cherrykingxu wrote:
Hithnar wrote:I sometimes wonder if the whole crisis thing is not just allowing the locals to let out some bad emotions that they have for outsiders and finally legally shut them out a bit. We live with a Chinese couple and they keep pointing at us for having too big salaries and pumping prices, and just cannot digest the fact, that super high expat salaries packed with allowances are long gone :oops:
Hi Hithar, what nationality are you ? Have you got any progess in recent job hunting?
As to the DP, we have let the company to apply a letter of consent, right? Do you know how long it will take?
I am Polish. Currently I am negotiating with one company, but I don't think they would take me - although they do appreciate the DP, and don't seem to panic to much about getting my work permission, they do however raise the issue of my cultural background.

The company applies for Letter of Consent, and it can take up to few weeks, but I have read somewhere on this forum that it may take even so little as 3 days.
Wish you luck...I just keep applying for job and have confident in finding a suitable one. I got one offer of secretary early Oct, and I refused it becasue we should have a very clear and bright career path than just survive ourselves. Cheer up, Hithar and let me infomed if you have a good news:)

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Re: So difficult to find a job in Singapore

Post by cherrykingxu » Mon, 10 Nov 2008 9:39 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
cherrykingxu wrote:
I felt so upset and where is my job here? Anybody here has any good idea about it?
I hate tell you this but Singapore does not OWE you a job. Only YOUR country owes you a job. So, if you really needs a job, I would suggest that you possibly return to your own country which is currently enjoying 9% growth. Yes, it might not pay as much but at least you won't be taking a local's jobs here.

I find this attitude that Singapore owes you something quite remarkable. Are you a citizen? If not, then they don't OWE you anything at all.
I do not have an attitude like what you said, how can you conclude like this? I know that Singapore does not owe me anything, so I should perform much better to compete with the locals...

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