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eek81 · Post by **eek81** » Mon, 20 Oct 2008 3:00 pm

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offall · Post by **offall** » Mon, 20 Oct 2008 4:57 pm

They seem to have every arbitrary standard in terms of approval, I applied EPEC and get rejected, but my roomate gets it with almost identical experience and education background
I want to find a person to argue but they just don't let you find anyone. all email inquires are automatic replies

eek81 wrote:hi there.

here's the situation. the company that ive been working with for the past 3 years has actually opened a new office in singapore recently, where they have posted me and a junior level exec as their permanent staff there. both of us are malaysian.

our company have even hired a third party hr consultant to arrange our paperwork for the EP. This company have sent my application just 2 days later then my junior colleague and i just got to know that her application is approved and mine is rejected. This puzzles me. According to the hr company, besides our working experience and background studies, our forms details are basically the same.

I dont understand how this can happen as i am more senior than my colleague and with more experience in the industry which am working in; Oil & Gas.

The hr consultant has just sent my appeal and am really hoping for the best.

Can probably someone give me an advice on this?

Hithnar · Post by **Hithnar** » Tue, 21 Oct 2008 1:57 pm

offall, EPEC is very tricky - me and husband had the same situation - I got my EPECC, he got rejected, although both of our universities are recognized by MOM. But when applying I checked "Mastes Degree", and husband in his naivety went for "Magister (Masters) Degree" - it's just a slight difference in naming the same title, and yet he got the big "NO".

eek81, maybe your colleague has a degree from a preferred university? Or something more specific about her qualifications, than you, and so MOM does not hesitate to let her into the SG job market. If there aren't any serious reasons to reject you, the appeal should help.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Tue, 21 Oct 2008 5:19 pm

As it is a new office in Singapore, how many staff does the company have here? What is the ratio of local/PR staff to non-local staff? As you colleague was sent in first, it's very possible the she used up the last available quota. All foreigners on S Passes or work permits are subject to quotas.

You indicated that your colleague was of a lesser experience level than yourself. Was her work permit an Employment Pass or an "S" Pass? If it was an "S" pass then the qualifications aren't a stringent as for the higher Q or P passes. This might be a possibility. If both applied for EP's instead of "S" passes and the HR person had checked "do you want to consider and "S" Pass?" box for your colleague (but neglected to do so on yours) if she was issued an "S" Pass that may also explain it.

We are just guessing here as we are not privy to the inner workings of MOM or how they adjudicate points on applications. What we say is based on our own experiences with MOM and therefore are only educated guesses.

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eek81 · Post by **eek81** » Wed, 22 Oct 2008 3:44 pm

sorry need to delete this msg.

calvink · Post by **calvink** » Mon, 27 Oct 2008 8:08 pm

Hi there..how long does it took for your appeal to be approved?

ANyway...whats the difference between S Pass & EP? Could someone earning SGD2500 and above still holding an S Pass?. If so, what are the significance.

Hithnar · Post by **Hithnar** » Mon, 27 Oct 2008 8:52 pm

Yes, you can have S pass even earning above 2500$ cap.If you however pass that 2500$ you will have one of the privileges of EP - like sponsoring a Dependency Pass, however you will not be able to sponsor a Long Term Social Visit Pass.

calvink · Post by **calvink** » Tue, 28 Oct 2008 1:40 am

I;ve seen from the MOM site that states S Pass holder are not allowed to bring in their dependents; family members, etcs. Does this mean that even though my family members holiday holding Social Visit Pass (Passport) are not eligible to enter Singapore for a visit?

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Tue, 28 Oct 2008 6:49 am

No, it means just what it says. You cannot sponsor them for Dependents' or LTSVP. What is so hard to understand?

You don't need a sponsor for a Social Visit Pass.

eek81 · Post by **eek81** » Sat, 08 Nov 2008 1:19 pm

sorry need to delete this msg.

calvink · Post by **calvink** » Sun, 09 Nov 2008 8:20 pm

Two days for the appeal to be approve.. That was fast but given ur visit pass expired so soon.. that could be the main reason

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