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singaporian racially abusing a foreigner

Postby sangeetha » Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:54 pm

Hello friends,
My friend who stays in one of the condos was racially abused by the resident and was asked her to leave the country and his land :mad: . She was shocked to here that :shock: . Where in, the Government is encouraging the expats to walk in. Can u advise me how to take an action against this. :)

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Postby Bafana » Thu, 09 Oct 2008 8:47 am

Have had this happen to me on the street and at work over the years.

Not much we can do about it unless the government does something.

Anyone else experience?
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 09 Oct 2008 9:28 am

It usually happens when a local is told off/rebuked/scolded by foreigner for being rude, inconsiderate, socially inept, lacking spatial awareness or just being a plain jerk. They are not used to being called out for their anti-social activities so this aggressiveness is their only retort. They drive much the same way if you haven't noticed. Get used to it. Also, it happens even more if you happen to be an Asian foreigner here as well as they feel you are in direct competition with them for their jobs so they are sensitive and the animosity is lurking always just below the surface. What to do?

Grow a thick skin quickly, as the trait is not going to go away. After over a quarter of a century here I haven't seen any changes in the attitudes yet. Such is life.

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Re: singaporian racially abusing a foreigner

Postby local lad » Thu, 09 Oct 2008 9:48 am

sangeetha wrote:Hello friends,
My friend who stays in one of the condos was racially abused by the resident and was asked her to leave the country and his land :mad: . She was shocked to here that :shock: . Where in, the Government is encouraging the expats to walk in. Can u advise me how to take an action against this. :)


How has it happened?

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Postby sangeetha » Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:57 am

It so started with a small topic with the kids play. And started telling u dont know how to raise kids and their care and in the mean time started saying that this is my land we can do anything here, u are foreigner, i am singaporean, u dont have any right here, just leave the condo and the country.We all were shocked to here that and gave complaint to the management about that. Lets see what they will do.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 09 Oct 2008 7:40 pm

The management is local as well. What do you "think" that will do? I guarantee that's not what's going to happen. You will be just written off as an unreasonable nosey-poker as birds of a feather tend to stick together especially if it's against a foreigner. (whether right or wrong is immaterial).

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Postby Plavt » Thu, 09 Oct 2008 8:02 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:It usually happens when a local is told off/rebuked/scolded by foreigner for being rude, inconsiderate, socially inept, lacking spatial awareness or just being a plain jerk. They are not used to being called out for their anti-social activities so this aggressiveness is their only retort. They drive much the same way if you haven't noticed. Get used to it. Also, it happens even more if you happen to be an Asian foreigner here as well as they feel you are in direct competition with them for their jobs so they are sensitive and the animosity is lurking always just below the surface. What to do?



Couldn't agree more. Try telling somebody of Asian extraction they are wrong about something, try to point out their failings and misunderstandings and even try to help and you are too often regarded as just some arrogant, mean ang moh (or whatever term is used in whichever country). OK flame me if you must, I never said westerners are perfect and indeed they are not but I wish some people in this world would accept a few home truths about themselves.

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Postby taxico » Fri, 10 Oct 2008 9:04 am

sangeetha wrote:and in the mean time started saying that this is my land we can do anything here, u are foreigner, i am singaporean, u dont have any right here, just leave the condo and the country.We all were shocked to here that...


i'm not sure what your ethnicity, skin color and nationality is, but i assure you, such "surprising" behavior is not limited to singapore.

some places, not so much. others, much more and worse than this. i've been insulted in places more unexpected than singapore.

get used to it and don't take it too personally; it's probably more heat of the moment (and your outward appearance) than genuine xenophobia.

if you take the high road, the bugger may understand what a prick he's been. i don't think complaining to the condo management will help.

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Postby sangeetha » Sat, 11 Oct 2008 3:07 pm

:) thank u for the concern. Today we have lodged one more written complaint about the condo residents that the neisance they are creating for us and asked to give us reply in one week. Every one are very serious in this issue as to get some respect.

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Postby Splatted » Sat, 11 Oct 2008 9:07 pm

sangeetha wrote::) thank u for the concern. Today we have lodged one more written complaint about the condo residents that the neisance they are creating for us and asked to give us reply in one week. Every one are very serious in this issue as to get some respect.


Personally, I would drop the matter. Escalating something like this can lead to other undesirable behaviour. Turn the other cheek & hope it goes away by itself.

I have a brother-in-law that every now and again is reminded by a mystery neighbour that he is not liked, usually by leaving little gifts on his car (eg used sanitary napkin stuck to roof of car, deep scratches in door one month after buying new car, etc)

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Postby taxico » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 9:41 am

that's freaking disgusting, son!

set up some kinda spy cam and turn in that mofo to the po'lice!

unless it's a female homosapien. and hot. wooooo...

now we're talkin! know what i'm saying!








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Postby hibri2 » Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:21 pm

come on guys!

singapore authorities are really sensitive towards those issues... and they are swift to clear that up as they know singapore needs people and they dont want to be seen as a hostile country towards foreigners, trying to maintain the "multicultural, multiethnic, multiplex" mantra and such.

if your friend is really anxious and upset about that, i will recommend the closer community council for just "rude behavior" (you can even put a complain online) and the police or MDA (if happens online) for "racist behavior".

also, the building management wont like to be known as a place where people get pushed around for not being local, considering that foreigners are their main line of business in an economy like singapore...

on the other hand, maybe they person just got a horrible day that day, and was pissed at something else, which does not exonerate but... well... sometimes is better to let it slide.
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Postby hibri2 » Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:40 pm

Plavt wrote:Try telling somebody of Asian extraction they are wrong about something, try to point out their failings and misunderstandings and even try to help and you are too often regarded as just some arrogant, mean ang moh (or whatever term is used in whichever country).


that reaction is related to education and personality not "asian extraction"

i can point to you endless cases of similar behavior anywhere in the planet

actually, if you point that "They are wrong about something, try to point out their failings and misunderstandings and even try to help" to locals in europe, usofa, etc as a foreigner could get you not an "ok" arrogant this and that but worst...

as always in this type of forums i will recommend not to write stuff like:

singaporean being rude to foreigner

or

a chinese ate my baby while an arab played the flute

instead try to point out that a particular person is an idiot / rude / baby eater / flute player... regardless of ethnicity, culture or nationality.

how easy is to write "my friend was verbally abused by neighbor" and then proceed to explain the situation till is relevant to make known that the neighbor is a rude / horrible / ignorant member of this or that broad group of people...
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Postby Vaucluse » Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:31 am

What a load of lily-livered, panty-waist, limp-wristed people do we have here . . .

You got a rollicking from someone . . . whoop-de-do.

Stand up and be honest if you have never done the same.

What have we become if we take every little thing further than it needs to go?

File a police report if you must, take them to court on civil charges of assault (yes, verbal assault) and creating racial unrest.

Jesus Christ in a basket.

She was shocked to here that Shocked . Where in, the Government is encouraging the expats to walk in


So, the population doesn't mirror exactly what the government says? I am presuming you are Indian - is your friend Indian as well?

Shall we look at the racial vilification and even murders in your country of origin, or your friend's?

Singaporeans are quite afraid of the system as such and if you push back they will generally beat a hasty retreat . . . if it gos too far.

Just forget about it, lead your life (your friend's) and donlt take it so seriously . . .

Geez




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Postby waz » Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:49 am

Sangeetha

From your last post, your friend is still pursuing the matter. It will get nowhere, and will create more problem. Just ignore it. And do you think the rest of the local resident will side with you?

Fact is fact, your friend is foreigner. This is not his grandfather country.
So sometimes, he need to back down a bit from all confrontation.
And in the period of all the brick bat against the so-called foreign talent in Singapore, a bit of humility will go a long way.

YOur friend will never be a "local". And once you accept that fact, you will realised that you have no real rights in SG.

I am no more in SG and no more SGrean. And I do get some level of prejudice in a foreign land. which I now called my home. I just ignore it and jtry to "blend in".
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