Anyway, your point about edison chen's 'hidden' lids. That is not subjective in the very least. His double eyelids are as clear as day and night, but if you don't think so, then you can believe what you want. His crease is definitely not low for a guy.
I totally agree that how big one's eyes are is subjective, like you said. But big has two parts to it: Height and Width (Or in your words, how long). Anyway, i don't know who you're kidding if you honestly believe deep down in your heart that edison's eyes aren't big, using the average joe's eyes as a normal benchmark
And of course you can't go to the other extreme and talk about people like lee jun ki to prove the point that long eyes doesn't always mean big.
lol.. to use your own point against yourself. I for one, don't find takeshi that manly, but more pretty. So it's subjective, like you said.
The height of the crease.. does make the eye look bigger, which is essentially what people want, having 'bigger' eyes. Obviously it doesn't take a genius to know the size of the eyeball doesn't change, but just that more of the eyeball is shown, giving the illusion of a bigger eye.
I was friggin being sarcastic with the 9-10mm, i didn't know my sarcasm was that bad, especially with that emoticon inserted in. Yes, that big doe eyes = boyish is exactly boii18's idea. In case i havent driven the point home, that's HIS idea of a boyish look. And yes, if rain were to get a 10mm crease, it WILL make his eyes look much bigger.
The reason why i sounded angsty was cos your original post sounded too much like telling boii18 what to do. It's his face and the way you put it across, "firstly, it will change too much as compared to your original looks and we would want that?" <= It's honestly quite offensive. But i agree that he is quite a PS-nut and i've discouraged him from going for some procedures.
