Tokai Clinic (Thailand)

[Brenton]

Anyone here wanna go to Tokai together??

Would like to go in pairs so that can save on accommodation.

Intending to get my nose reduced at Tokai..

Dr. Nara replied in a day's time....Still waiting for Dr Pat to reply

[aadvark]

Hi, I am new here and new to PS. I would like to have some serious advices from the seniors. Had few questions in my mind.

1 ) I personally smoke alot, If i wanted to do rhino & alar, will it affect my nose to cause infections? Anything or any way to prevent?

2 ) How do you clean up your nose after doing rhino/alar ? What is the best way other than using finger?

3 ) Do you have to go for check ups before undergoing any kinds of PS?

4 ) What is the important point / steps to do after the surgeries?

PM's & reply are much appreciated.

1) try to cut down smoking as much as possible as smoking increases the risks of complications...but of cos there are pp who continued to smoke after their PS but din suffer any infections....

2) try not to use fingers cos first ur fingers maybe too thick to reach where u wanna clean cos of swelling and secondly, its more hygienic to use cotton buds and clean the inside of ur nose wif some alcohol...make sure u clean well tho...

3) if its rhino and u're planning to do i believe its not necessary to have check up done beforehand...

4) be patient after ur PS to see the results...healing takes time....

hope it helps....cheers....

hee, was going to reply until i read your post, which is what i intended to say

[aadvark]

i did at tokai..

i did under chin, cheeks and arms lipo..
scars for chin n cheeks no longer visible but for my arms, there are 2 scars on each arm.. my arms only went down 1.5 in.. results not very significant also

Hi bie,

May i noe hows ya chin now? i m thinking o headin to tokai to do my chin aug and jaw botox...

Can i hav the price for chin aug as well? he quote mi US$800 and US600 for jaw botox which i tot was abit expensive.

Thnks

i would say i was very very happy with dr pat's chin aug, so i wld recommend that anyway. but for jaw botox, i am pretty sure u can get it doen below 1k in sg, just have to hunt arnd

[debbiesue]

I am seriously considering coming to Thai land for surgery with Dr Pat. I'm worried some because I am really having a lot done and have never been in Thailand before. Plus is Dr Pat the right surgeon for me? I think he may be. I need others opionions please
the surgeries
Forehead (brow) Lift with hairline lowering) and brow bone & orbital bone reduction
Platisma plication to make under chin angle sharpness
lower face liposuction
Malar (Cheek bone) implants
Liposuction abdomen
Love handle
Back
Fat transfer to buttock

A lot of work I know. I don't need rhino or eyes done thank god.
Dr Pat says he can do all in one surgery and that it will be great. I have met one person he did and she looks nice.
Opionions??

[debbiesue]

Hi that sounds interesting to me. I'd love to cut expenses for this trip. I'm having a lot more done than you so I am not sure if you want to share with me though. I am getting complete forehaed rework, jar work, face and neck lift, cheek lipo and implants
abdominal lipo and contouring.

But it you want to share I'm more than willing. Do you have a date in mind yet> I have not set one so far....
Debbie

Anyone here wanna go to Tokai together??

Would like to go in pairs so that can save on accommodation.

Intending to get my nose reduced at Tokai..

Dr. Nara replied in a day's time....Still waiting for Dr Pat to reply

[shadydoll]

Sidetrack abit, is there a way/procedure to remove scars?

Reddish, very slightly raised underarm scars which are still there about 8 mths post surgery.
Been religiously applying scar healing creams ranging from 15 to 80 bucks, and recently switched to vit e gel (poked a hole in the vit e capsule for direct appln), but nothing really works leh. Faded but still pretty obvious.

Sorry if its a stupid question but i do hope to get rid of them once and for all. ;p

[heloise]

Hi, I am new here and new to PS. I would like to have some serious advices from the seniors. Had few questions in my mind.

1 ) I personally smoke alot, If i wanted to do rhino & alar, will it affect my nose to cause infections? Anything or any way to prevent?

2 ) How do you clean up your nose after doing rhino/alar ? What is the best way other than using finger?

3 ) Do you have to go for check ups before undergoing any kinds of PS?

4 ) What is the important point / steps to do after the surgeries?

PM's & reply are much appreciated.

1) try to cut down smoking as much as possible as smoking increases the risks of complications...but of cos there are pp who continued to smoke after their PS but din suffer any infections....

2) try not to use fingers cos first ur fingers maybe too thick to reach where u wanna clean cos of swelling and secondly, its more hygienic to use cotton buds and clean the inside of ur nose wif some alcohol...make sure u clean well tho...

3) if its rhino and u're planning to do i believe its not necessary to have check up done beforehand...

4) be patient after ur PS to see the results...healing takes time....

hope it helps....cheers....

hee, was going to reply until i read your post, which is what i intended to say

i learn from u one ma esp pt #4

[Annakilly]

Hey everyone, i just came back from tokai last wednesday!
I went to do redo my nose implant because i felt the bridge was too high and unnatural and my tip wasn't sharp enough.
I had my previous implant done by Dr. CL Yeap at Mount E 3 years back!

Its my 6th day after the surgey and i have a major problem!
Its said that the bridge will go down by 1/3 its original height in 6 months, HOW ABOUT THE TIP??? Please tell me the tip will go down in height too!
omg Dr. Pat made my tip super high, my nose practically looks like a fork sticking out of my pancake face, i look like pinnochio Is it normal for the tip to be that high, because right now my bridge is fine

I hope some of you kind souls will help answer my question!

Other than that the trip was fine, no worries as Dr. Pat is a nice doctor. He was very straighforward with me in regards to my expectation. He told me that my expectations are impossible because i have thick nasal skin, but he would try his best to achieve what i wanted.
I woke up during the surgery like many others did and it hurt, i was whining away and i begged him to put me back to sleep, he said it wasn't neccessary and injected me with more local anesthetic. Operation lasted and hour.
The nurses were fantastic, held my hand throughout the procedure and they were very friendly and sincere, they even hired a cab to take me to my destination at a fixed price after surgery because they said most cab drivers liked to take farangs out on a ride to get more money.

I paid 25 000 Baht for the revision rhinoplasty in all after bargaining with him. Oh and i forgot to mention his humble 3 storey clinic did not look impressive from the outside, but it looked proper from the inside, with all the facilities needed. Definitely looked more professional then the surgery room of the previous doctor i went to in Singapore.

I will most likely not post any photos here in the forum but might do so discreetly to other forumners who are thinking of going for surgery. Do feel free to contact me through this forum, if you have any questions or queries and i will definitely answer them to my fullest
All the best to those gg for surgery and those who are healing!

[gucci_gucci]

Hi Annakilly,

No need to worry at all. I went through all that and now I'm fine. 2 weeks after the surgery I still looked like a freak, I screwed up and thought my nose looked weird, the nose distorted my face feature, the bridge was too high, the tip was too high bla bla. I cried like hell because I thought I made the wrong decision. But now it is 2 months post op and everything is good, the swelling has subsided, the bridge looks natural and all that.
So advice for you and all who's doing nose job: calm down and be patient. It is natural that you will feel frustrated after the ops and think " omg why the hell did I do this, I've made the wrong decision". Wait for at least 1 month and you will see things will change.

[illium]

hi all,

has anybody had otoplasty with dr pat? I'm considering him but cannot find anybody with the above experience.
I'm also trying to contact the yanhee but can't get a reply.

[sakuranbo]

Hi that sounds interesting to me. I'd love to cut expenses for this trip. I'm having a lot more done than you so I am not sure if you want to share with me though. I am getting complete forehaed rework, jar work, face and neck lift, cheek lipo and implants
abdominal lipo and contouring.

But it you want to share I'm more than willing. Do you have a date in mind yet> I have not set one so far....
Debbie

Anyone here wanna go to Tokai together??

Would like to go in pairs so that can save on accommodation.

Intending to get my nose reduced at Tokai..

Dr. Nara replied in a day's time....Still waiting for Dr Pat to reply

Hey, I've just sent Dr. Pat & Nara emails, now waiting for them to reply, I'm very likely to be paying Dr. Pat a visit since he offers more procedures, including the ones I want. I need nose reduction(tip, alar) and bridge implants. Other surgeries I need is chin implants, lip reduction (both lips) and facial liposuction. I'd need my body done as well, but its way out of my budget, I'd have it on another trip*Darn my genes suck*. Anyway It'd be great if I could join, since I'd be flying alone from Toronto all the way here. I'd have it in late june/early july.

Ok.. I've got a reply from Dr.Pat, his reply is more explicit and thorough compared to other surgeons. Since he has quote me the prices, and It might answer some of the questions you guys have I'll post it
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Dear x,

Thanks for your mail and interest in our clinic.
I would like to inform you that your photos are very good and complete to present your situation and requirement, I would inform you as follow;

# 1. nose reduction(tip, alar) and bridge implants.

The cost of nose implant& tip = USD 800, Alarplasty = USD 600

#2. chin implants = USD 800

#3. lip reduction (both lips) = USD 800

#4. facial liposuction;This procedure may be not need = USD 800 (discounted from USD 1,000)

Your chubby cheek may be from buccal fat pad, the removal is USD 800.

#5. You should reduce your jaw angle by Botox® = USD 520

my questions are: 1 What material is available for nose bridge augmentation?

Ans. The medical grade silicone.

Q2. Will lip lift be necessary if lips are reduced a lot?

Ans. No because your distance between nose and lip is short.

Q3. could i leave or rest for a couple of days to a week?

Ans.After surgery you should stay in Bangkok for at least 10 days for post op. care and stitches remove.

Q4. How does the post-op care works?

Ans. We are pleased to look after you.

Q5. Will Dr. Pat offer revision without, or if not, at low cost if post-op is not acceptable/very far from expectations?

Ans. We will take response for the poor result from our work.

Q6. Will I have trouble during departure and entry at the customs post-op (because I'd look so different from passport)?

Ans. You will have our medical certificate for immigration.

Q7. How long will the surgery last approximately?

Ans.

# 1. nose reduction(tip, alar) and bridge implants. = 2 hours.

#2. chin implants = 1 hour.

#3. lip reduction (both lips) = 1 hour.

#4. facial liposuction. =1 hour.

buccal fat pad removal =1 hour.

#5. Botox® injection 15 - 30 min.

8 Are the fees for consultation, anesthetics, or any other fees included? If not please provide to me.

Ans. All prices quoted are inclusive of doctor’s fee, anesthetic, medicines, compressive garment, post op care and follow up.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind regards,
Dr. Pat
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So anyone knows how much shud i expect for the extra fees (doctor’s fee, anesthetic, medicines, compressive garment, post op)?

[aadvark]

Hi that sounds interesting to me. I'd love to cut expenses for this trip. I'm having a lot more done than you so I am not sure if you want to share with me though. I am getting complete forehaed rework, jar work, face and neck lift, cheek lipo and implants
abdominal lipo and contouring.

But it you want to share I'm more than willing. Do you have a date in mind yet> I have not set one so far....
Debbie

Anyone here wanna go to Tokai together??

Would like to go in pairs so that can save on accommodation.

Intending to get my nose reduced at Tokai..

Dr. Nara replied in a day's time....Still waiting for Dr Pat to reply

Hey, I've just sent Dr. Pat & Nara emails, now waiting for them to reply, I'm very likely to be paying Dr. Pat a visit since he offers more procedures, including the ones I want. I need nose reduction(tip, alar) and bridge implants. Other surgeries I need is chin implants, lip reduction (both lips) and facial liposuction. I'd need my body done as well, but its way out of my budget, I'd have it on another trip*Darn my genes suck*. Anyway It'd be great if I could join, since I'd be flying alone from Toronto all the way here. I'd have it in late june/early july.

Ok.. I've got a reply from Dr.Pat, his reply is more explicit and through compared to other surgeons. Since he has quote me the prices, and It might answer some of the questions you guys have I'll post it
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear x,

Thanks for your mail and interest in our clinic.
I would like to inform you that your photos are very good and complete to present your situation and requirement, I would inform you as follow;

# 1. nose reduction(tip, alar) and bridge implants.

The cost of nose implant& tip = USD 800, Alarplasty = USD 600

#2. chin implants = USD 800

#3. lip reduction (both lips) = USD 800

#4. facial liposuction;This procedure may be not need = USD 800 (discounted from USD 1,000)

Your chubby cheek may be from buccal fat pad, the removal is USD 800.

#5. You should reduce your jaw angle by Botox® = USD 520

my questions are: 1 What material is available for nose bridge augmentation?

Ans. The medical grade silicone.

Q2. Will lip lift be necessary if lips are reduced a lot?

Ans. No because your distance between nose and lip is short.

Q3. could i leave or rest for a couple of days to a week?

Ans.After surgery you should stay in Bangkok for at least 10 days for post op. care and stitches remove.

Q4. How does the post-op care works?

Ans. We are pleased to look after you.

Q5. Will Dr. Pat offer revision without, or if not, at low cost if post-op is not acceptable/very far from expectations?

Ans. We will take response for the poor result from our work.

Q6. Will I have trouble during departure and entry at the customs post-op (because I'd look so different from passport)?

Ans. You will have our medical certificate for immigration.

Q7. How long will the surgery last approximately?

Ans.

# 1. nose reduction(tip, alar) and bridge implants. = 2 hours.

#2. chin implants = 1 hour.

#3. lip reduction (both lips) = 1 hour.

#4. facial liposuction. =1 hour.

buccal fat pad removal =1 hour.

#5. Botox® injection 15 - 30 min.

8 Are the fees for consultation, anesthetics, or any other fees included? If not please provide to me.

Ans. All prices quoted are inclusive of doctor’s fee, anesthetic, medicines, compressive garment, post op care and follow up.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind regards,
Dr. Pat
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So anyone knows how much shud i expect for the extra fees (doctor’s fee, anesthetic, medicines, compressive garment, post op)?

it's all included in the quoted prices. tell him u r on a tight budget, and ask him to give u a package price since u r doing so much

[sakuranbo]

Ahh my bad lol I've misread "inclusive".... I'm such a clumsy reader Thx aadvark for ur fast reply n dedication, ur a true guru

[icy]

sakuranbu,

Thanks for the info!!

[sakuranbo]

np icy got a reply from Tokai "The total cost is USD 5,120. I am please to discount to USD 4,600." yay thanks aadvark if not for you i wouldn't know its so easy to get a discount. I'm very likely to have it on June 25-26, anyone going to tokai around that period?