Put it this way, if you worked in a large office, how would you feel if the big cheese told you you wont be allowed your own office, you have to set up a desk next to his and to work full time sitting next to him/her. He argues it is because he wants you to feel part of the "family"franchupe wrote:humm, the need for privacy and livability is a good point. sharing the room of my baby does not give a lot of privacy i agree but isn't treating her like a member of the family (literally)?
Helping with the baby. Why not? Say myself, I do not expect the FDW to bring up my child but look after him when I am not around. There will be probably a partial overlap with a nanny job but taking this kind of care is IMHO within this job description.QRM wrote:There is a bit of confusing over a helpers role here are they helpers or are the Nannies/surrogate parent. To the average FDW their job is to keep the house clean and the just ensure Kid stays alive.
Yes, you are right, when you are an expat and renting large apartmentsStrong Eagle wrote: So, if you can actually afford the costs of a maid, which will run upwards of $S700 per month, plus food, medical insurance, trips home, and additional utility costs with an extra person in the house, go the extra mile and get a place with one more bedroom.
You have missed nothing. That 90 percent you refer to are willing to hire maids and have them live in sub standard accommodations. It is a sad tale indeed, when the FDW employer handbook gives advice about a maid sleeping on the floor. My personal experience... and that is living in a semi detached neighborhood... is that Singaporeans treat their maids like sh*t... no days off... up at 5:30 to clean 'masters' car... with luck, at 11, down time for themselves.ecureilx wrote:Yes, you are right, when you are an expat and renting large apartmentsStrong Eagle wrote: So, if you can actually afford the costs of a maid, which will run upwards of $S700 per month, plus food, medical insurance, trips home, and additional utility costs with an extra person in the house, go the extra mile and get a place with one more bedroom.![]()
And you can
No offence, but as per your anology, 90% or more of Singapore homes, owned by Singaporeans, are mostly 3 bedroom units, and as per your advice - they should not have maids .. or did miss something ??
Over and out .. chief.
So to rephrase it, the 90% must not be allowed to have a maid ?? Well, that also means the 100,000 odd maids to be jobless ?? tough choice mate .. while it is easy to preach, it is not so easy to justify ..Strong Eagle wrote: You have missed nothing. That 90 percent you refer to are willing to hire maids and have them live in sub standard accommodations. It is a sad tale indeed, when the FDW employer handbook gives advice about a maid sleeping on the floor. My personal experience... and that is living in a semi detached neighborhood... is that Singaporeans treat their maids like sh*t... no days off... up at 5:30 to clean 'masters' car... with luck, at 11, down time for themselves.
That's a bad exampleQRM wrote: Put it this way, if you worked in a large office, how would you feel if the big cheese told you you wont be allowed your own office, you have to set up a desk next to his and to work full time sitting next to him/her. He argues it is because he wants you to feel part of the "family"
Jeez even we didn't use the air-con in SG! In fact come to think of it most of my in-laws/friends don't have or use air-con either.Strong Eagle wrote: What this really boils down to is privacy and livability for the maid. The simple rule of thumb I use is that my maid (when I had one), would live under the same conditions that I choose to live. Therefore, a room of sufficient size to permit a permanent bed, armoire, chest of drawers, table or stand, and a chair, air con, and a window. Also access to bath facilities, ie, she doesn't need to brush her teeth in the kitchen sink.
She doesn't like itJR8 wrote:Jeez even we didn't use the air-con in SG! In fact come to think of it most of my in-laws/friends don't have or use air-con either.Strong Eagle wrote: What this really boils down to is privacy and livability for the maid. The simple rule of thumb I use is that my maid (when I had one), would live under the same conditions that I choose to live. Therefore, a room of sufficient size to permit a permanent bed, armoire, chest of drawers, table or stand, and a chair, air con, and a window. Also access to bath facilities, ie, she doesn't need to brush her teeth in the kitchen sink.
p.s. Do you let your maid drink your single malt whisky too?
Why? The conditions should not be undignifying (and preferably dignifying) but not necessarily similar. This is just employer-employee relationship and it is rather uncommon that the employee and the employer enjoys exactly the same benefits and privileges.Strong Eagle wrote:She doesn't like itJR8 wrote: Jeez even we didn't use the air-con in SG! In fact come to think of it most of my in-laws/friends don't have or use air-con either.
p.s. Do you let your maid drink your single malt whisky too?
My point, as you know, is that the maid should live in conditions similar to what you live in.
No tough choice at all. You should have no maid if you can not put her in the right place. This is our case for the moment.ecureilx wrote:Well, again, I am not condoning abusing maids or letting them live in sub-human conditions (as you put it) but .. when I only have two bedrooms, and I could afford a maid, and I got no place to let her stay other than the bomb shelter .. tough choice..
Totally agree. Not a tough choice at all.x9200 wrote:No tough choice at all. You should have no maid if you can not put her in the right place. This is our case for the moment.ecureilx wrote:Well, again, I am not condoning abusing maids or letting them live in sub-human conditions (as you put it) but .. when I only have two bedrooms, and I could afford a maid, and I got no place to let her stay other than the bomb shelter .. tough choice..
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