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Postby krptykcookies » Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:33 pm

dr_saket wrote:there were great industrialists in India such as Dhirubhai ambani, the creater of reliance industries, he was a very passionate money.
but he wanted a lot of money, same about his sons, which are following his footsteps.
he had used bribes, money power etc. etc. to make more money and was successful at the end.
there was a court case against him, but he came out after paying minor damages.
even the aim of MBA schools is to make money. They advertise a lot of false claims, manipulate statistics to show that their grads get high salaries.
even the banks, credit card companies do unethical advertising.
the whole system runs around money.
and you say that a doctor should just treat and forget the money part.
there are some noble people in this world with noble values, I agree, who do great, but then many times they come from rich families and do not need more money.
there are lots of people doing charity , e.g. Brad Pitt, but then they already have the money. If I become successful with money one day, I will also do a lot of charity and open a hospital, which will give free treatment to patients.
but I can not afford to do that now, bcz I am not from an affluent family.

I first need money for my family.

I'd like to touch a bit on the MBA part you mentioned. No doubt what you said is true to certain extent. There are many MBA schools but what distinguishes the best from the average ones are its entry criteria and alumni.

From my experience the top 3 criteria you should look for would be its GMAT requirements (the higher the requirement the more rigorous is program), its entry requirements (ie., number of interviews, essays) and most importantly its attractiveness with MNCs with past alumnis (you would normally get these info from their brochures).

The really good MBA programs would boasts of alumni with so and so MNC in so and so position.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:37 pm

Frankly, the most wealthy doctors aren't the ones who are in it for the money but are, instead, in it as it is their calling. The Hippocratic Oath is a bit different than the Bankers Creed. The doctors who have a calling are ultimately the ones who's reputations eventually preceed them and make their skills extremely valuable.

You would probably do better staying in India where you can just fleece your countrymen for the "money". We don't need any more of those type here, we have enough of them here with Citizenship..

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well

Postby dr_saket » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:22 am

u r a waste of time
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one more thing

Postby dr_saket » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:41 am

whats this, i dont understand
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Postby krptykcookies » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:52 am

If SG were to approve work permits for people like you into the medical field the entire medical system will crash and the public will no longer have faith in the system anymore.

It's sad that people like you want to come into SG for the sole purpose of making money only. I guess the reason why you are avoiding the US / UK is that you know you will not easily get a work permit there.

And of course passion is THE thing. Without passion nobel laureates will not be writing on break-thru's in the medical field or the destruction of a country's governance due to corruption - they write this because they are passionate about what they do for the people they do it for.

Without passion the number of AIDS victims will quadruple what was 5 years' ago. Without passion the world will end up starving due to food shortages. Without passion there will not be a Kyoto protocol and Al Gore would not be going around preaching about climate changes and how it's affecting the world today.

With people like you around only to make money, the world will be another India to live in!
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well

Postby dr_saket » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:03 am

what u doing???????????????/
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Re: well

Postby krptykcookies » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:13 am

dr_saket wrote:presently it is USA financial markets that have crashed and also taking down Europe with singapore it.
the reason- everyone knows- excessive greed-- top banks and IB firms such paid there managers for the amount of money coming in.
total unethical business was done for greed.

Indian banks are totally safe, last quarter the GDP growth in India- 7.9%, one of the highest in the world.

here, even if you do MBA from a third class school, finding a job is not a problem.
in USA, even top schools have problem placing their grads.

in USA, health costs are too expensive, doctors charge a bomb there. a middle class person fears going to a doctor if an ailment is not covered by medical insurance.

result- untreated hypertension rising in USA.

in USA there is shortage of general surgeon, bcz most of them do specialize further to get a good ROI on their medical education, which also costs a bomb their.

I dont know how u can say that US or Singapore work ethics are better than India.
present financial crisis is a good example.


SO ... in this case why do you still want to come to work in SG? :???:
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other reasons

Postby dr_saket » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:19 am

waste of time
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other reasons

Postby dr_saket » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:19 am

ok, good
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Re: other reasons

Postby krptykcookies » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:27 am

dr_saket wrote:I find singapore good in following terms-
1. safe, no terrorist attacks , safer in long term.
(terrorist attacks in India are not India's faults).
2. its on beach, with good tourist destination.
3. near my home country.
4. international mix of people.

I always had and still have the option of going to USA and working as a doctor there.(in USA doctors dont have to fight for work permit, bcz in USA 40% of doctors are from foreign, bcz post grad seats are double than the undergrad seats).
I can earn millions in USA .

However,- 1. I dont like the lifestyle in USA- drugs, guns etc.
2. safety problem still persists.


I am surprise that you have a GMAT score of 750. I believe you reverted the original figure of 075, that is more likely. You hardly sound like someone who uses his brains before he shoots off his words and you obviously don't have the maturity to qualify as a manager (or whatever position it is you want to work in).

Frankly I am also not surprised to read in the media the number of c'ships offered to Indians. As mentioned earlier getting a PR in SG is not a problem, in fact the SG government encourages you to go onto PR rather than having the hassle of renewing your expired work permit.

If you do decide to do your MBA at any of the local unis here I can only wish them good luck coz people like you only make a mockery of the education system here!
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well

Postby dr_saket » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:42 am

what
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Re: well

Postby krptykcookies » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 1:50 am

dr_saket wrote:what has happened in USA is a mockery of the financial system.

what is happening in name of terrorism is the mockery of the human life.

what is happening China (toxic milk, toxic toys- infants dying) is the mockery of business ethics.

I got my GMAT score because of my hard work. I am a specialist doctor and eligible to get in top US colleges and also practice in US as a doctor.

Singapore educational standard is below me. I am thinking of choosing it bcz of the factors mentioned above.

my IQ is much more than an avg. MBA of NUS. My knowledge , specialization, work ex is also more than an avg. NUS MBA.

I will also get a good Scholarship from NUS.

What do you say??

regarding managerial capabilites--- when time will come, I will do my best. thats me. whenever I do something I do the best.

thats why I have reached this high level.

I am not at all into a managerial job right now so dont have those communication skills. you are right.
but skills are learnt, nobody is born with the right skills.
thats why I am doing an MBA, to learn and develop the right skills.
isnt thats what MBA meant for.

and GMAT score does not depend on your communication skills, it depends on hard work, practice and IQ. and I have all of them.


and OH! BTW not only do you have a (low) 'IQ' you sound like some foolish bragger too :D
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Re: I am not

Postby krptykcookies » Sun, 21 Sep 2008 2:16 am

dr_saket wrote:you are very stupid


Re-read your original post and see who's the 'very stupid' one here! :D

You sure you have a medical degree with a GMAT score of 750 and you want to come into SG to work for a salary of at least 90k - gimme a BREAK!

Frankly you are just one of those 'good riddance to bad rubbish' anywhere except in India :)
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Postby Min_Ong » Wed, 29 Oct 2008 6:26 pm

Voted: MOST AMUSING THREAD!!

he went to edit all his previous post (that were quoted by the people who replied so they still can be read).

utter amusement. you're too proud. typical.

but thanks for the laughs. all the best with your mba choice. :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:23 pm

He's the type of myopic specialist you often read about in the newspapers. After they botched numerous operations cause they left scissors, swabs, clamps or other surgical equipment inside and stitched up the patient because of not having any spatial awareness. (like erasing posts that were quoted- talk about making yourself really look like a silly jerk. :lol: :roll: )

Anybody wanna bet he got his degree from a degree mill? Of course, we all know that having a high IQ is not a measure of actual intelligence. It's only the measure of the capability of having high intelligence. We now see what happens when it's been neglected to whither on the vine........ :cool:


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