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Postby Ruslan Zakirov » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 3:13 pm

As anything in our life, loosing weight is not that easy and not that difficult as it might be seen. Loosing 13kg in 3 months is realistic and does not destroy your body. The healthy norm is 1kg lost in a week. Whatever is excess will come back or cause the anorexia nervosa. Do not exhaust yourself with diets. Anaerobics work better than aerobics. In spite the fact that during aerobic excersises you burn more calories the anaerobics give more effect. The reason is that periodic weight excersises continue their effect long after the workout itself as your body restores the cells that have been destroyed during during your workout. When you starve your body burns both fat & muscles but when you do weights you are actually building your muscles & burning fats. Please, do not worry about "ape shape". To become an "ape" you will need a professional training, food supplements, genetics. That really looks sexy when a lady has some muscle separation.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:57 pm

Ruslan Zakirov wrote:Loosing 13kg in 3 months is realistic and does not destroy your body. The healthy norm is 1kg lost in a week. Whatever is excess will come back or cause the anorexia nervosa.


I see you are well behind the times if you believe that. I lost 25 kg in less that 20 weeks. I have not gained anything back nor lost any additional weight in the past 100 days (today) since finishing my diet. I now weight what I did when I was ROD'd in 1968 (40 years ago) and my health has actually improved in quantum leaps. I now no longer take my 2 HBP medications to keep my HBP at border line high. Instead it is now an unmedicated 110/70. My cholestorol is now normal so no longer taking lipostatin and my uric acid levels are well within normal ranges. My physician has stopped all my meds that I've been on for over 10 years.

I think you need to go back and to some more research as you really don't seem to know too much about what advances are going on out there. It sound like you are an ACE trained PT and we all know that ACE trained PT's here are worthless for the most part. There are a few who have kept up but it's damned few as most quit learning as soon as they passed the exam. Typical Exam mentality as most here.

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Postby zean » Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:52 am

how much you spend?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 27 Sep 2008 9:43 am

You have got enough silly one line posts now to activate your PM function so you can quit spamming the forum now. You are so obvious...... :roll:

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Postby limcpj2003 » Sun, 28 Sep 2008 8:06 pm

Hi SMS,

what is the program that you were on? My sister is 150 meter tall and weighs over 60kg. She is very much overweight I would like to help her loss some weight and get fitter.

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Postby Ruslan Zakirov » Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:39 am

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How quick you are on people assessment! I am not "ACE trained PT" (quite different industry). Where did you get it from? Please, check your own statement. You have lost 25kg in 20 weeks. This is - 1.25kg/week. You are OK then. Well close to the norm. Years ago, I used to be a professional fighter and trained the guys as well. So, I think I know how to condition a body and stay alive. I am not so lucky to be proud of loosing cholestirol rate or stoppping taking my meds (I've just never controlled this rate and taken meds). What I told is only that when you loose weight it is always better to mix counting calories with physical training. The progress is much higher and healthier. Once again, I am from the different industry. By the way, physical activities help to generate endorphin making you happier and less agressive.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 29 Sep 2008 2:13 pm

So you are advising everybody to get into an exercise program when they are "obese" or "morbidly obese" rather than just overweight? That the additional damage they will do to their joints trying to do what you suggest will help them? Nah. Can't agree. What you propose is good if someone is slightly "overweight" but not "Obese". I understand why you guys think pure exercise is the only way. You may well have been a professional Boxer, but you probably have never been "Obese". Where walking up a single flight of stairs causes heart palpitations and any more may well induce cardiac arrest.

I am not dissing your exercise program at all. I'm saying that one has to be in a situation where doing exercise will not aggravate existing problems caused primarily by their weight. Once the massive weight loss has been obtained, THEN is the time to start the exercise program to fine tune, sculpt and become fitter. But you have to get rid of the bulk of the fat first. Training, while "fat" generally will cause you to actually slow down your rate of loss and rarely will you lose the fat. You have to remember that we are talking about people with problems some of which they've had for decades. Not people who already have a certain level of fitness and may have let themselves get a little bit out of shape.

My apologies regarding my statement about ACE trained PT's. But, the statement in general about them "locally" still stands. They are next to worthless here in general speaking (not all as I've stated already). My mistake was not catching the fact that you are not local. :oops: My bad!

This statement of yours "Years ago, I used to be a professional fighter and trained the guys as well." is exactly what I was referring to. Maybe you haven't kept up with certain weightloss programs that are quick, but rigid and extremely effective in getting rid of weight fast (fat loss not water loss) without the hard slog. The program I used is fast, effective, healthy and does not consist of calorie counting nor using supplements, pills or anything else other than fresh foods. It is a balanced program and I tried my darndest to find something wrong with the program for 3 months before embarking on the best thing I ever did with regard to my weight. It's now over three months since I finished and I am currently around half a kilo below my final weight/goal. The physical part is coming along nicely now. But at 61 it's not like I'm training to be the next decathlon participant.

With regard to my weight loss be the norm. That's not true on the program I was on. The norm there is 1.5 to 1.8kg/mo for most anybody under the age of 50. The Doc modifies the diet for us "older" folks to spread it over a 4 to 5 month distance. The health benefits are unbelievable though. Women with PCOS even find that their bodies have been straightened out and subsequently have found themselves pregnant after dozens of years trying. Amazing things out there today if we take the time to do some research instead of living in the past. Medical science keep marching on. :wink:

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Postby Ruslan Zakirov » Mon, 29 Sep 2008 4:05 pm

Dear Sir,
I've never mentioned any suppliments or fat-burners. Sorts of Herbalife either. I did not mean that an obesed person has to do hours of cross-training, pushups & chinups. The load is very individual. The heart is a muscle and you have to train it. Loosing weight with diets only burns fats together with muscles. The muscles also support joints. I guess that's enough to convince you in strengthening muscles. What type of a balalnced nutriation system are you talking about? Just curious. Most of them suggest to focus on carbs or proteins thus compromising the balance. There was another "healthy" way to burn the fat - eating pills with parasites then eating pills to kill parasites. Some doctors praticed this system without having informed their clients.

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Postby MrBear » Mon, 29 Sep 2008 9:20 pm

SMS,

Please PM me. I've been carrying a few extra KG and my current diet/workout if amounting to not much loss but BMI is going down very very slowly.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:07 am

Ruslan Zakirov wrote:Dear Sir,
I've never mentioned any suppliments or fat-burners. Sorts of Herbalife either. I did not mean that an obesed person has to do hours of cross-training, pushups & chinups. The load is very individual. The heart is a muscle and you have to train it. Loosing weight with diets only burns fats together with muscles. The muscles also support joints. I guess that's enough to convince you in strengthening muscles. What type of a balalnced nutriation system are you talking about? Just curious. Most of them suggest to focus on carbs or proteins thus compromising the balance. There was another "healthy" way to burn the fat - eating pills with parasites then eating pills to kill parasites. Some doctors praticed this system without having informed their clients.


As I said, I also don't believe in pills, supplements or any other MLM garbage. It's not necessary. Sure there are egg diets, high protein diets as so on. My diet focused on getting rid of carbs and sugars and any other chemicals found in processed foods. I could not do a high protein diet like atkins due to being a long term gout sufferer and also having a history of kidney stones (uric acid stones - not calcium stones). There is the ability to eat a low carb diet that's not high in fats, protein or anything else. All my food is unprocessed fresh foods consisting of all food groups, meats (including poultry & seafood), fresh vegetables & fruits. Plenty of water to stay hydrated (it not a water loss type of affair). Done properly, it prevents insulin spikes, simple starch cravings, and also prevents general hunger cravings. I personally know an ex-semipro rugby player who let himself go to pot and last year he dropped 49kg in 6mo's & 2 weeks. It is a good way to jump start your quest to a new body. without waiting years to drop the weight. I've never seen any exercise program that could be done by a family man that would allow you to lose 50 kg in 6 months or for that matter 12 month (and still have some time for your family that is).

I know this much. The program works and works fantastically. It was money well spent. At 61, doing it the gym way, I may well have died of old age just about the time I lost all the weight (if I didn't die of cardiac arrest long before then). :P

I'm not saying your way is bad or not any good. It just isn't for everybody. There are other ways. Neither are better or worse than the other. It depends on all the other factors combined. Guess that's why they always say see your physician before embarking on an exercise program. My program was designed for me individually, and monitored via blood test every 4 weeks by the doctor (he's a trained cardiologist) who designed the program for me. Are your exercise programs monitored by a doctor?

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Postby movagn » Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:14 am

SMS,
do you mind sending a PM for me regarding your weight loss program? I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol so need to lose weight. Thank you!

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Postby Mei2 » Mon, 13 Oct 2008 3:26 pm

hi SMS,
i'm very interested in your diet plan that you've taken. could you let me in on the info?
thanks.

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Postby changeling » Sun, 26 Oct 2008 8:44 pm

My god SMS, you're 61?!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:50 pm

changeling wrote:My god SMS, you're 61?!


Why? How old did you think I was? :cool:

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Postby vvs1 » Fri, 31 Oct 2008 2:07 am

Hi Moderato ,
can you please send me the diet plan .


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