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how muchd o i have to pay to aviod singapore ns?

Postby llyon » Tue, 19 Aug 2008 9:50 pm

hey people how much do i have to payt o aviod singapore ns? i am a australia citzen and singapore too but theywont let me give up singapore citzen unless i finsh 2 years of ns but knowing singapore while i am in ns they will make a new law and when i finsh ns and bout togo back to ausstralia they will say sorry u have to doi a extra year to give up the citzrnship......i live with my gf in a rented house we both go to uni and iam 17...like wtf is going on......and i know theres a way u pay singapore 5 or 10 thousand to aviod ns plz help?
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:29 pm

Sorry, Jose, no way. You gotta do NS. No amount of money will set you free. And it's a good thing. It might make a man outta you. One hopes anyway.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:30 pm

Windup?

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Postby llyon » Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:35 pm

yeh there is a way... my frien just payed 10 thousand and they let him off he moved to australia to study while i have live in australia for abit
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Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:51 am

llyon wrote:yeh there is a way... my frien just payed 10 thousand and they let him off he moved to australia to study while i have live in australia for abit


Definitely a windup. Either that or an extremely stupid person. Your call.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Aug 2008 6:54 am

Extremely stupid windup? :wink:

Can we move this one to the rubbish tip?

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Postby SittingBull » Tue, 26 Aug 2008 7:24 pm

Hope the following helps:

In line with these three principles, MINDEF has consistently taken a tough stand against those who default on their National Service obligations. We have introduced various measures over the years to prevent such persons from evading National Service. For example, the Constitution was amended in 1979 so that those who refused to serve could not escape their National Service obligation by simply renouncing their citizenship. Only those who have emigrated at a young age and have not enjoyed substantial socio-economic benefits are allowed to renounce their citizenship without serving National Service.

11. Since 1970, we have required pre-enlistees who are going overseas for an extended period to post a bond as a promise that they will return to fulfil their National Service obligation. The bond quantum was $20,000 in 1970 and it has been increased over the years. Since 1992, the bond quantum has been set at $75,000 or half the combined annual income of the parents, whichever is higher. The bond is however not a substitute for National Service. If a pre-enlistee fails to return to serve his National Service, not only has he broken his bond but, more importantly, he has broken his promise and broken the law by not returning to fulfil his National Service obligation. The bond quantum that is forfeited is the penalty he has to pay for breaking the bond. It is not redemption and not a substitute for National Service. He still has to face the law for failing to comply with his National Service obligation under the Enlistment Act; and he still remains liable for National Service.

12. There is strong support for National Service among Singaporeans. Every year only a small number, about 0.5% of those liable for NS each year, or on average 100 unresolved cases of NS defaulters a year over the past 5 years, fail to register or enlist for National Service, or fail to return after their exit permits expired. The vast majority of these defaulters are overseas.

13. An average of 12 NS defaulters a year were charged in Court for failing to comply with the Enlistment Act. The offences carry a sentence of up to 3 years imprisonment, a fine of up to $5,000, or both. The sentence is decided by the Court based on the circumstances of each case. Besides answering to the Court, NS defaulters who are still Singaporeans and below the age of 40 will have to serve National Service.

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Postby Currymeister » Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:26 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
llyon wrote:yeh there is a way... my frien just payed 10 thousand and they let him off he moved to australia to study while i have live in australia for abit


Definitely a windup. Either that or an extremely stupid person. Your call.


I would have gone for the former, but having been here for only a few weeks even, I would probably opt for the latter.

But I just cannot get my head around the fact that local people come to an expat forum to ask about their own countries laws and regulations that govern local people.

Who points them in this direction?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 27 Aug 2008 2:25 pm

Have you gone to some of the local forums? With their level of English and sms'ese and trolls, they figure they'd stand a better chance here.....

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Postby cavalier » Thu, 28 Aug 2008 9:32 pm

Currymeister wrote:But I just cannot get my head around the fact that local people come to an expat forum to ask about their own countries laws and regulations that govern local people.

Who points them in this direction?


Google.

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Postby mondayhue » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:55 am

I heard of ppl paying 10k to excuse from NS... not sure of the reliability though

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Postby taxico » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 9:31 am

boy, 10 big ones to get out of national service. wouldn't that'd be something!

the government shortened the full-time service period from 2 years 6 months to 2 years.

that took a long time (i believe the rumors went around for at least 6-8 years before it was legislated).

i wouldn't believe they are about to increase it to 3 years anytime soon; especially knowing how much planning and research goes into such changes.

quit being a baby and just do it. however if you don't intend to ever return to singapore, then feel free to skip out (that's really your only other alternative).

if you completed your degree before coming back, you stand a higher chance of going to officer school (tiring, but challenging and you get a free shiny sword). did i mention officers get a much higher pay?

you also make a few lifelong good friends that you know will die for you and take one in the face _from_ you if it's really necessary. ha!

if you are fit, healthy and able to pass the simple pre-enlisting fitness test, you can actually deduct 2 months off your service.

that's like freaking 1 year and 10 months. you throw in all the public holidays and annual leave and regularly handed out "off days," you can knock another month and a half off.

and if you look at the weekends, amount of time you spend overseas and in training schools...

okay, you get my drift; it's not that long nor tough.

there're smarter people in wimpier conditions than you who've gone through it and did not become less smart or more soft in the process, so why should you worry?

oh. don't think too much about the horror story of cheating and fleeing girlfriends while you're stuck in there either... you'll have a giant support group on the inside. just kidding...

i think.

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Postby Biogentic » Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:53 pm

mondayhue wrote:I heard of ppl paying 10k to excuse from NS... not sure of the reliability though


if 10k SGD can escape from NS, i think army will be vacant by now.... basically there are no amount of money to escape from NS...

It is basically a hell period for anyone that has never been through it....


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