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Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 8:42 am
by Plavt
Seems I was referring to the same report don't know quite why I was thinking of a different incident, still no harm done.

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 1:30 pm
by mules
fyi - couldn't help but comment, QANTAS has no "U" in it. It's an acronym, much like SIA, JAL, etc just a little longer!

Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 2:46 pm
by ScoobyDoes
Qantas is one of the last remaining airlines NEVER to have lost a passenger in its history.

This particular plane is 17-yrs old and with age comes problems.

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 3:38 pm
by sierra2469alpha
errrmmmm...untrue

And before we all start making some blatant assumptions, I'd suggest we wait until the official investigators finish their work. We had a friend of ours staying with us this weekend - heads up regional transport safety - and they have had to fly to Manila. They just left.

For those in the know, we normally wait until the findings are done by the professionals, rather than speculate.

And before you flame me, yes, I am ex tech crew (not QF).

P

UA 747

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 4:00 pm
by Vortex
Plavt wrote:Seems I was referring to the same report don't know quite why I was thinking of different incident, still no harm done.
hi plavt....u are right...refer to United Air Lines not United Airlines...

http://aviation-safety.net/database/rec ... 19890224-0

check out my link.....it's a database of all aircraft incidents dating back to early 1900s... quite scary actually to read through all those incidents reports....

In that case...9 ppl got sucked out and lost at sea....due to decomp resulting from blown off forward cargo door....

cheers.. :)

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 5:15 pm
by QRM
ScoobyDoes wrote:Qantas is one of the last remaining airlines NEVER to have lost a passenger in its history.
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Not quite true, they have never had a fatality in a PASSENGER JET accident. Lots of near misses though, this being one of them.

For all you anorak types out there here is a surprising large list of airlines with no fatalities

Aeris (1990)
Aero California (1982)
Aero Continente (1992)
Aero Continente Chile (1999)
Aero Lloyd (1981)
Aerolineas Internationales (1994)
Aerolyon (1996)
Aerorepublica (1994)
African Star (1999)
Agean Airlines (1992)
Air 2000 (1987)
Air Anatolia (1996)
Air Austral (1975)
Air Berlin (1979)
Air Do (1998)
Air Europa (1993)
Air Europe (1989)
Air Jamaica (1968)
Air Kazakstan (1997)
Air Liberte (1988)
Air Lithuania(1991)
Air Macau (1995)
Air Malta (1974)
Air Mauritius (1972)
Air Namibia (1959)
Air Niugini (1973)
Air One (1995)
Air Plus (1997)
Air Seychelles (1976)
Air Sicilia (1994)
Air Tanzania (1977)
Air Transat (1987)
AirBaltic (1995)
Airlink - Australia (1991)
Airtours (1991)
Alfa Airlines (1992)
Allegiant Air (1998)
Allegro Air (1992)
AMC Airlines (1994)
America Trans Air (1981)
America West (1983)
American Falcon (1998)
An Express (2000)
Angel Airlines (1998)
Arkia Israli Airlines (1950)
Aserca Airlines (1991)
Atlantic Airways (1987)
Atlantic Coast Jet (2000)
Aurigny Air Services (1968)
Austrian Airlines (1957)
Avioimpex (1992)
Awair International (2000)
Azteca (2001)
Bahamasair (1973)
Blue Panorama (1998)
Britannia (1961)
Canadian North (1989)
Casino Express Airlines (1989)
Cayman Airways (1968)
Champion Air (1993)
CityBird (1997)
Corsair (1981)
Croatia Airlines (1989)
Cronus Airlines (1995)
Cyprus Turkish Airlines (1975)
Dinar Lineas Aereas (1992)
Dragonair (1985)
EAS Airlines (1993)
EasyJet (1995)
Ecuatoriana (1996)
Edelweiss Air (1996)
Emirates (1985)
Estonian Air (1991)
Eurocypria Airlines (1992)
Eurofly (1990)
European Aviation Air Charter (1994)
Eurowings (1994)
EVA Air (1991)
Falcon Air (1986)
Fischer Air (1997)
Flight West Airlines (1987)
Fly Linhas Aereas (1995)
Frontier (1994)
Fuijan Airlines (1993)
Futura International (1990)
Galaxy Airways (1999)
Ghana Airways (1958)
Hainan Airlines (1989)
Hawaiian Airlines (1929)
Impulse Airlines (1992)
Intensive Air (2000)
Inter Air (1994)
Islandsflug (1991)
Japan Air System (1971)
Japan TransOcean Air (1991)
Jet Airways (1993)
Jet Blue Airways (2000)
JMC Airlines (2000)
Kalahari Express (1999)
LanPeru (1999)
LASER (1994)
LTE International Airways (1987)
LTU International Airways (1955)
Macedonian - Greece (1992)
Macedonian - Macedonia (1994)
Maersk (1983)
Mahan Air (1993)
Malmo Aviation (1993)
Manx Airlines (1982)
Meridiana (1963)
Mesa Airlines (1982)
Midway Airlines (1993)
Midway Express (1993)
Monarch Airlines (1967)
Myanmar Airways Intl. (1993)
National Airlines (1999)
National Jet Italia (2000)
Nationwide Airlines (1995)
NatureAir S.A. (2001)
North American Airlines (1990)
Nouvelair Tunisie (1990)
Novair (1997)
Oman Air (1981)
Omni Air International (1997)
Onur Air (1992)
Ozark Airlines (1999)
Pace Airlines (1996)
Pan American Airways (1999)**
Pegasus Airlines (1990)
Planet Airways (2000)
PLUNA (1936)
Portugalia Airlines (1990)
Premiair (1994)
Qatar Airways (1994)
RĂ©gional (2001)
Rheintalflug (1973)
Rio Sul (1976)
Royal Brunei Airlines (1975)
Ryanair (1985)
Sahara Airlines (1993)
SATA International (1998)
Shaheen Air (1993)
Shangdong Airlines (1994)
Shanghai Airlines (1985)
Sichuan Airlines (1988)
Sky Trek (1996)
Skymark Airlines (1998)
Skyservice Airlines (1994)
Skyways Express (1987)
Southeast Airlines (1999)
Southern Winds (1996)
Southwest Airlines (1971)(z)
Spanair (1988)
Spirit Airlines (1992)
Star Airlines (1995)
Sterling European (1994)
Sun Country Airlines (1983)
Sunexpress Airlines (1990)
Sunworld International (1996)
Swiss International Air Lines (2002)
Syrianair (1961)
TANS (1999)
Titan Airways (1988)
Trans States Airlines (1983)
Transaero (1991)
TransAsia Airways(1991)
Transavia Airlines (1965)
Travel Service Airlines (1997)
Tunisair (1957)
Tyrolean Airways (1980)
Ukraine International (1992)
U-Land Airlines (1989)
UNI Airways (1988)
Uzbekistan Airways (1992)
Vanguard Airlines (1994)
Virgin Atlantic (1994)
Virgin Express (1992)
Virgin Sun (1999)
WestJet Airlines (1996)
Zoom Airlines (2002)

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 5:43 pm
by sierra2469alpha
Not to mention 27 seriously injured after QF001 overran at BKK...but we'll just ignore that fact, shall we? Along with the wife of the F/O being on the deck at the time where the J class passengers heard a female scream "Oh...F***K, do something".

Good work QRM - Impressive list - I actually thought Argentinuis Anallingus lost a DC-9 years ago??? Alas I am mistaken.

Again, friends, lets leave it to the experts before we sit there and make assumptions.

As ex tech crew, my only complaint with QF is the inability to redeem my 750,000 odd frequent flyer points! Oh, and the service. Oh, and the crappy aircraft. Oh, and the crap schedules. Oh, and the crap food. Even in F and J class. Oh, did I mention the general snotty nosed F/A's?

No wonder we prefer SQ and CX.

P

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 6:13 pm
by Plavt
QRM wrote:Qantas is one of the last remaining airlines NEVER to have lost a passenger in its history.
You may or may not have seen my earlier posting; I am told Qantas had a serious accident in the 1930's but there were no incidents since*. However, I do not have enough information to be sure. Maybe Saint can help with that one. :-k

* Could that have been a cargo plane and could it have been before the airline was known as Qantas? I have no idea.

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 6:20 pm
by Plavt
sierra2469alpha wrote:errrmmmm...untrue

And before we all start making some blatant assumptions, I'd suggest we wait until the official investigators finish their work.
The relevant point; when TWA800 crashed, CNN spent all day immediately afterwards either speculating or creating numerous speculations yet most if not all investigations take months to complete.

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 6:35 pm
by durain
mules wrote:fyi - couldn't help but comment, QANTAS has no "U" in it. It's an acronym, much like SIA, JAL, etc just a little longer!

Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services
i think ksl is speaking singlish, hence qantas is quantas. :P

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 6:54 pm
by QRM
Plavt wrote:
QRM wrote:Qantas is one of the last remaining airlines NEVER to have lost a passenger in its history.
You may or may not have seen my earlier posting; I am told Qantas had a serious accident in the 1930's but there were no incidents since*. However, I do not have enough information to be sure. Maybe Saint can help with that one. :-k

* Could that have been a cargo plane and could it have been before the airline was known as Qantas? I have no idea.
Not that I dont want to take credit for a somewhat incorrect statement but I think you will find it was scoobyD that made that assumption.

Qantas had plenty of pre-jet fatalities

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 7:10 pm
by ksl
durain wrote:
mules wrote:fyi - couldn't help but comment, QANTAS has no "U" in it. It's an acronym, much like SIA, JAL, etc just a little longer!

Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services
i think ksl is speaking singlish, hence qantas is quantas. :P
That's what happens when you have been here a few years in the local environment :oops:

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 7:23 pm
by ScoobyDoes
QRM wrote:
ScoobyDoes wrote:Qantas is one of the last remaining airlines NEVER to have lost a passenger in its history.
.
Not quite true, they have never had a fatality in a PASSENGER JET accident. Lots of near misses though, this being one of them.

For all you anorak types out there here is a surprising large list of airlines with no fatalities

Not quite sure about that list because i seem to remember accidents for both Britannia, Monarch and maybe Hainan as well. Although seeing the list again, it also mentions PanAm :shock:

Oh, and a near miss is a near miss....... not the real thing ;)

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 7:26 pm
by Plavt
QRM wrote:
Not that I dont want to take credit for a somewhat incorrect statement but I think you will find it was scoobyD that made that assumption.

Qantas had plenty of pre-jet fatalities
I think you may have misunderstood me, my original posting (about the fourth one down and prior to anything that ScoobyD says) says much the same thing and as I said I don't have enough information to know whether or not it is true. No doubt you have already noticed the list you quote doesn't have anything earlier than the fifties. In that era investigating bodies might not have existed in the form they do today.

Posted: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 7:39 pm
by QRM
This might help for pre-50s stuff,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_fatal_accidents