National Service Deferment Procedure in Singapore.

[Lisafuller]

Why not?

Have you checked out the Gleneagles there? It appears better than the one here. Looking through the resident doctors, it seems similar to what you’d get here, majority are Chinese Malaysian doctors with UK credentials.

Before dismissing it, I would suggest the OP contact the hospital (or even better, schedule an in-person visit) to discuss the idea with a resident O&G doctor or two.

Medical issues are one thing but a hold up in getting a new passport, birth cert etc from the US embassy in MY are another.

Valid point. Despite being 20 minutes from the border, you won’t be able to cross it until bub has a passport. That means a trip to KL with bub and mama (or a sworn statement from her) to apply, then wait a couple of weeks for issuance.

Well, how about Bangkok? Outside of Singapore, Bangkok has the best medical care in SE Asia. Bumrungrad Hospital (the famous one, most often recommended) is just a 23 minute walk from the US embassy in Bangkok. At least it avoids flying to the US and paying double the price of Singapore for giving birth (while getting treated worse, in all likelihood).

Not a bad idea, actually! If mom is too far along to fly, they can even drive!

[Lisafuller]

Why not?

Have you checked out the Gleneagles there? It appears better than the one here. Looking through the resident doctors, it seems similar to what you’d get here, majority are Chinese Malaysian doctors with UK credentials.

Before dismissing it, I would suggest the OP contact the hospital (or even better, schedule an in-person visit) to discuss the idea with a resident O&G doctor or two.

Medical issues are one thing but a hold up in getting a new passport, birth cert etc from the US embassy in MY are another.

We've started looking into the Gleneagles there, as well as the process for getting a passport. From what we can tell, this might be preferable to going to the US.

Logistically it is more straightfoward as we'd only be a short drive away from our extended family in Singapore and it would ultimately require less time outside of Singapore when we take the the no-fly windows before/after delivery into consideration. We'd need to go to KL for the passport/birth cert, but turnaround on that looks comparable [or shorter, even] than in the US.

I suggest you tour the hospital far in advance just to make sure everything's in order.

No fly windows are a good point, staying in BKK is inexpensive but US, not so much.

[Lisafuller]

Medical issues are one thing but a hold up in getting a new passport, birth cert etc from the US embassy in MY are another.

We've started looking into the Gleneagles there, as well as the process for getting a passport. From what we can tell, this might be preferable to going to the US.

Logistically it is more straightfoward as we'd only be a short drive away from our extended family in Singapore and it would ultimately require less time outside of Singapore when we take the the no-fly windows before/after delivery into consideration. We'd need to go to KL for the passport/birth cert, but turnaround on that looks comparable [or shorter, even] than in the US.

Be sure to check into the capabilities of their neonatal unit, and maybe even check with the ICA on what protocols exist for an emergency border crossing for resident parents who have a newborn without a passport — in that unlikely event, you’d wanna know in advance.

Wouldn't that set off some red flags with the ICA?

[malcontent]

We've started looking into the Gleneagles there, as well as the process for getting a passport. From what we can tell, this might be preferable to going to the US.

Logistically it is more straightfoward as we'd only be a short drive away from our extended family in Singapore and it would ultimately require less time outside of Singapore when we take the the no-fly windows before/after delivery into consideration. We'd need to go to KL for the passport/birth cert, but turnaround on that looks comparable [or shorter, even] than in the US.

Be sure to check into the capabilities of their neonatal unit, and maybe even check with the ICA on what protocols exist for an emergency border crossing for resident parents who have a newborn without a passport — in that unlikely event, you’d wanna know in advance.

Wouldn't that set off some red flags with the ICA?

Dear ICA,

Are there any medical exceptions where the requirement for having a passport to enter Singapore can be waived?

From: [email protected]

[Lisafuller]

Be sure to check into the capabilities of their neonatal unit, and maybe even check with the ICA on what protocols exist for an emergency border crossing for resident parents who have a newborn without a passport — in that unlikely event, you’d wanna know in advance.

Wouldn't that set off some red flags with the ICA?

Dear ICA,

Are there any medical exceptions where the requirement for having a passport to enter Singapore can be waived?

From: [email protected]

LOL! That's one way to do it

[TigerMum]

Hello, Just finished reading this whole thread. Here is my situation if anyone can advise/ comment:

Singaporean father with Malaysian PR, Malaysian mother.

Family living and working abroad in country X for 20 plus years (employment residency). Son (almost 16.5)born there, because of the Malaysian laws where Malaysian mothers could only pass their nationality on if born in Malaysia, he had to take up Singaporean nationality. Otherwise I travelled back to Malaysia to have the other kids. [ I had two scans and both said he would be a girl !] He has a Singaporean sister, otherwise his other siblings are Malaysian.

Never lived in Singapore, only visited as tourists. Never taken any benefits, except his Singapore passport. No IC .
I have since he was small been trying to apply for his Malaysian citizenship and after a long long process his application has finally just been approved. He has, in the meantime been a Malaysian PR and on a dependent's pass here in country X.

At 13, my husband did his EP . Now he is almost 16.5 we received the email asking him to register on the NS portal and pay the bond/ sureties.

Shall we ask them if we can defer til 21 with intention to renounce. I know we've missed all those crucial timed steps - but he didn't have an alternative citizenship, plus his father is still Sg.
Is there still hope?

[PNGMK]

I think you're out of luck.

[DanD.]

Hi.

New poster here, chanced upon this forum and found it very helpful!

My family and I (all SGC) will be migrating to Oz next year when our sons are 6 and 3 years old. Their passports will have 4 and 1 year+ validity left, respectively, at the point of migration.

We intend to eventually take up Oz citizenship and renounce our Sg citizenship, thereafter (i.e. my husband and I will renounce first). We expect this to happen when my older son is 11 and the younger will be 8. We will follow the steps here for our sons to defer NS until 21 before they can renounce, based on the info we’ve gathered here.

Would like to check if:

1) Traveling on our Sg pp before the kids turn 11 would affect the process to defer NS til 21? We would like to enter Sg for STV to visit family for eg and,

2) Could I renew my younger son’s passport when it expires (he will be 5yrs old then) given that the validity of that passport will not go beyond his 11th bdae?

Thank you for all the help!

[bxagw]

I don't think you could do that, keeping the NS away until 21 yr old (defer) followed by renouncing the citizenship for the boy. With the current tech and system, ICA can easily pull all datas of your boy entering and exiting SG using which passport. Do remember, every decision you made on your boy will affect his life forever. If he is she then that advise not applies.