almond2009 wrote:Thank you PNGMK and MS, for the advice you have given me. I don't think there is much I can do at the moment. I'm not against the idea of NS. What I don't like is the inflexibility of the rules (e.g. what if we lose our Singapore connection completely, then what's the point of sending my son back to serve), and the lack of information on what an overseas Singaporean can expect. Things like, what's the waiting time between graduation and starting NS? Can he disrupt if university starts before he completes NS? While these may seem trivial, I think it will add to the total "NS time" significantly and it does matter to the families involved.
If the SG govt reads this, I hope they will consider the practical issues and make NS more friendly for overseas Singaporeans (although my experience has taught me that they don't care).
Sorry for the digression. This forum has given me the answers I seek and I thank you for that. I hope I will come back and give an update in the future.
Continue to request deferments (AKA overseas NS Exit permits for 1 year and 364 days) until he is old enough to go back or until CMPB refuse to issue anymore, you may need to provide proof of enrolment in school or uni or college. You presumably (and should) be doing this already since he was 13?JJ0204 wrote:HI.. desperately need advise here.
Son just turned 16 in Feb. Understand he will get his NS registration notice soon. Nothing against NS but worried about him when he has to go back for NS alone. We sold our HDB when we left Singapore 8 years ago. No relative back in Singapore and no place to stay when he has to fulfill his NS obligation.
Anyone can offer advise? is it possible to request for deferment till he is 21 (or at least till he is more independent and mature to travel on his own). Parents are unable to travel back with him due to work and younger sibling still attending school overseas.
Sorry to hear of your illness.vlogin wrote:Hello all,
I need some help here.
Would like to ask a question. not sure where to find for this hence posting here hopeful that some might give me answer or show me direction.
My DS is having moderate hearing loss and has to use the hearing aids to help him hear well.
He is also not allowed to swimming as he had surgery done on his ears and there is slight hole in the eardrum. So doctors mentioned that he cannot do swimming or get water into ears as it causes infection.
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Will he get any deferment/any exemption for part of training where he cannot go into water/rain etc. Trying to read thru articles and forums but still could not find any thing.
He is currently PR and we want to take citizen ship or continue his PR. We are for this NS, but was worried about his health issues.
Though we are keen to take citizenship for him or even though he is PR , we would like him to come and do NS. This was our earlier thought.
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So all apart, will he be doing front line of combat?
Will the NS ppl checked for genetic and parental conditions?
If his hearing does not improve and he has to wear hearing aids or he has moderate hearing loss, will there be any NS front line action he as to do?
Will there be any deferment/exemption given based on his condition?
Or will he have to do the combat training?
Any one might know the answer or how can we approach?
Thanks in advance (sorry for the rant!! Thought u might need to have a complete picture of the situation)
A most dubious claim since only Taiwan, Israel, South Korea besides sinkieland have mandatory conscription. Comparing peacetime deaths of countries with mandatory conscription with countries without mandatory conscription in the consideration of citizenship is pointless. Like comparing oranges with car parts. Country X could have 10000 times more deaths but since it doesn’t have mandatory conscription I can just choose to not participatesundaymorningstaple wrote:The loss of life in this country's peacetime army is minuscule compared to the peacetime armies of the developed world. .
Sounds like PAP circular.sundaymorningstaple wrote: But you are getting there ('developed' - still have a ways to go - infrastructure is there, society isn't). NS isn't a difficult issue to the minds of most people, it's only an issue with the whiners who inhabit the little red dot. (you sound very much like one of them). The rest are thankful for the safety of the little red dot thanks to it devotion of training it's people for any eventuality, just like Israel does. Actually, it would be a good thing if the women here did NS as well. Now THEY would protect this country. Nothing worse than a ticked-off woman, except for a ticked-off woman with a SAR-21.
Peacetime death in US doesn’t matter in what we are talking about because most Americans choose not to be in the military. I will not let my children volunteer in the US. Since there’s no conscription I don’t have to worry like the sinkies and outsiders dumb enough to want in. I don’t care how many people died in Nam. It’s not relevant because my kids will not be joining the US military.sundaymorningstaple wrote:It really doesn't matter whether there is conscription or the Draft or a volunteer army. Training deaths happen. However, you wouldn't know anything about that. I was a volunteer back when the Draft was in full swing during the VN war July 65 to July 68. We didn't have any more training deaths per 100,000 of recruits, whether or not they were regulars or conscripted/draftees. Sorry, peace-timer, you are barking up the wrong tree.
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