Bike Test

[kyleblockley]

Afternoon,
I have been riding motorbikes all my life. I am 32 now and when I was in London in 2005 decided to take the basic bike license test which I think allowed me to ride 125 bikes. I passed and rode in London for the following year and a half before moving to Sing in Jan 07.

I will be taking my Basic Theory Test here in Singapore next month.

Will I need to take the pracitcal test also? And if so can I just take the test or will I have to go through the basic riding skills lessons again?

What book do I need to get to familiarise myself with Singapore driving laws and are the bike regulations the same as the car regs? I.e. will ther be 2 different books?

[Strong Eagle]

Only the written test required, no driving test. Gets you a 2b license (200 cc and under). Basic theory test same for bikes and autos. Any bookstore will carry the Singapore police driving book.

[kyleblockley]

Great,
thanks very much.

Just to clarify my bike license from the UK expired last year as I was due to upgrade to a full license but moved to SG. Will they except that I can ride or will they make me do a practical?

[taxico]

you'll need a full m/c license to convert. no L stickers.

a full license can't be expired either.

riding a m/c for most of your life but only getting a partial or restricted m/c endorsement 3 years ago won't cut it in singapore.

but hey, you could always try... ! you might get lucky. more amazing things have happened during license conversion.

otherwise you're gonna have to start from zero in singapore.

or else return to UK for a holiday and get your full license and come on back.

i understand the basic theory is for car and the m/c one is called riding theory.

i could be wrong! but you can hop on down to the driving/riding school and get more information at the traffic police counter.

[Strong Eagle]

i understand the basic theory is for car and the m/c one is called riding theory.

Wrong. You need only take the basic written theory test to qualify for both a car and motorcycle license. However, BOTH require that you have a valid license in your home country (ie - unexpired).

First thing you need to do is get your license renewed... can you do this online? Without a valid license you'll be starting at ground zero in Singapore, no conversion possible.

And it is more than doing a 'practical'. It is doing the entire 2b training session which you cannot complete in under 3 months.

[taxico]

i understand the basic theory is for car and the m/c one is called riding theory.

Wrong. You need only take the basic written theory test to qualify for both a car and motorcycle license.

i was told otherwise on the singapore bike forums when i enquired about converting to class 2B/A. the replies i had insisted there's a riding theory separate from BTT.

as mentioned, i could be wrong. never hurts for the fella to find out the entire and correct method for doing so at the traffic police counter as he's in singapore!

but i really do hope it's only the basic theory like you said cos i've already passed basic!

[kyleblockley]

Thanks guys.

Yes my license expired which is a pain, so looks like I have to sit through all the lessons.

Traffic Police told me I had to do BTT. Do I have to do that first before taking practical lessons? Or can I sign up for practical lessons now?

[taxico]

you'll need to pass your first theory test to get that learner's permit...

[Strong Eagle]

i understand the basic theory is for car and the m/c one is called riding theory.

Wrong. You need only take the basic written theory test to qualify for both a car and motorcycle license.

i was told otherwise on the singapore bike forums when i enquired about converting to class 2B/A. the replies i had insisted there's a riding theory separate from BTT.

as mentioned, i could be wrong. never hurts for the fella to find out the entire and correct method for doing so at the traffic police counter as he's in singapore!

but i really do hope it's only the basic theory like you said cos i've already passed basic!

IF you have a valid motorcycle license from a recognized country then conversion is made when you pass the basic theory written test. There is no other test required. I know. I did it.

You pass the test, bring your license, EP card, passport, a couple of photos, and if your license doesn't show how long you have had it, you must provide evidence of how long you have had your license. You get a temp license on the spot, a permanent one a couple of weeks later.

If you convert a valid motorcycle license then by law, it can only be converted to a class 2b license. However, older people with many years of riding experience have been permitted to convert a foreign unlimited license to Singapore unlimited license (class 2).

There is a riding theory test - but only for those that must take the entire riding program. See the diagram below. Finally, check the other threads for more info.



http://singaporeexpats.com/forum/ftopic ... asc-0.html

http://singaporeexpats.com/forum/sutra3 ... ht=#311230

http://singaporeexpats.com/forum/sutra2 ... ht=#288904

http://singaporeexpats.com/forum/ftopic ... asc-0.html

[Strong Eagle]

Great,
thanks very much.

Just to clarify my bike license from the UK expired last year as I was due to upgrade to a full license but moved to SG. Will they except that I can ride or will they make me do a practical?

Did you have a provisional license only? Seems like it might have expired but it is not totally clear doing a quick google search.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItO ... G_10031642

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Dr ... /index.htm

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/inf95.pdf

I would do everything possible to see what I could do about getting that UK license valid. It will be way easier than taking the riding course in SG, which is quite intensive.

http://www.ssdcl.com.sg/courses/class2B_outline.asp

[zjules]

Ive taken the Basic theory BTT and Rider theory RTT. Had already passed the RTT, but they wouldnt accept it to convert my car license. Had to do the BTT as well. Both tests were almost identical. The RTT is half about car stuff too... And was amazed to see so many typos and grammar errors in a police test!!!!

[rob w]

[quote="kyleblockley"]Afternoon,
I have been riding motorbikes all my life. I am 32 now and when I was in London in 2005 decided to take the basic bike license test which I think allowed me to ride 125 bikes. I passed and rode in London for the following year and a half before moving to Sing in Jan 07.

I think you ill find you did not take a test but the CBT which is compulsory bike training, you will have to start from scratch and work your way up im afraid.
on the convertion thing I did my BTT and was given a class 3 car and a full class 2 bike at the same time, my colleage was given the same , but an Indian guy i know said he was riding 350cc in India and they would only give him a 2A 200cc.

Rob

[zjules]

ROb, was this some time ago? I think the rules changed. They only convert to a 2B license now..

[rob w]

Sorry I meant to say they would only give him a 2B that was a couple of years ago, for me I changed mine last year and when the lady at the test centre saw I had a full motorcycle licence in the UK , she asked if I wanted a Harly so I said yes, class 2 please and that’s what she did.
This also happened to my work mate it seems to be at her discretion what you get.