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epec rejected

Postby samurai » Mon, 09 Jun 2008 3:31 pm

Hi,

I have been rejected for epec but the worst part is that while applying online for epec it never asked me to upload any documents..

I am a graduate from a recognised university as per singapore govt requirements and also 12 years of experience and curently earning per month 2600 United Kingdom pounds which is equivalent to 6900 singapore dollars.

What is the appeal process if epec online system was at fault in not allowing me to upload my documents.

Any assistance will be highly appreciated.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 09 Jun 2008 9:42 pm

The online system does not require or accept the uploading of documents. If they want more information they will contact you to have you present it (original documents) once you are in Singapore or they will send you an email requesting it. The fact that you have a qualifying school does not mean it is a given. Your Degree from that school must be accepted as well (not all are).

13. Do I need to submit any additional documents to support the EPEC application? How do I submit these documents?
If we need more information to assess your EPEC application, we will send you an email to the address you have provided in your application. You may retrieve your EPEC application at https://epec.mom.gov.sg/epec and enter the reference and passport number to upload the following documents:

S/N............Document.....................Document Size & Format
1.......Passport Size Photograph.......60KB in JPEG format only
[Preferred dimension is 400 (width) by 514 (height) in pixels]
2.......Passport Particulars Page......100KB in JPEG format only
3.......Qualifications........................150KB in JPEG format only
[Maximum of 3 attachments per qualification]
4.......Skilled Migrant Visa...............100KB in JPEG format only

You have to submit the requested documents within 7 days from the date you receive the email. Late or no action on your part will result in your EPEC application being rejected.


Didn't you bother to read all the information provided on MOM's site with regard to the EPEC before filling out the online form? :roll:

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Postby caraski » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:45 am

Didn't you bother to read all the information provided on MOM's site with regard to the EPEC before filling out the online form? :roll:



I am having precisely the same problem.

Yes, I read the instructions.

No they did not send an email requesting information.

Yes, I tried to login to the system with the reference number and passport number, check the status of my application, but no, I could not upload any documents.

I received an email yesterday saying that I took too long to submit documents.

I have heard other reports of the same thing.

Its definitely not an isolated incident.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:04 am

Are you running a spam filter on your email client? Is your deleted file automatically emptied when you close you client? If it is, it's a good possibility that you were sent an email and your spam filter may have bounced it before you saw it, unless you scan your deleted file before emptying it. (Which tends to negate the usage of spam filters anyway - but that's another topic).

At this juncture, it may be wise to called the relevant ministry to request a review of your case. Only they know the inner workings of MOM. We can only guess and surmise based on anecdotal evidence which in itself, may well have been a one-off decision.

I would have though that if the system was faulty, there would have been numerous complaints and it would have been righted soon enough with email notices sent out to possible victims asking them to either resubmit or reapply or to contact the MOM directly. As I haven't had any notifications of glitches in the system (As an HR Practitioner & Manager I receive all of their notices when there are shutdowns or problem or maintenance issues).

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Postby caraski » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:23 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Are you running a spam filter on your email client? Is your deleted file automatically emptied when you close you client? If it is, it's a good possibility that you were sent an email and your spam filter may have bounced it before you saw it, unless you scan your deleted file before emptying it. (Which tends to negate the usage of spam filters anyway - but that's another topic).


No, double checked that. Had the foresight to imagine that specific scenario before this all started.

At this juncture, it may be wise to called the relevant ministry to request a review of your case. Only they know the inner workings of MOM. We can only guess and surmise based on anecdotal evidence which in itself, may well have been a one-off decision.


Phoned them. The person at the phone number listed in the FAQ didnt even know how the online system worked. Email was not much better-- they simply said 'only those applicants who are requested to submit the documents will receive an email to do so' -- although I mentioned in the original mail that the mail I received stated that my application was rejected specifically because the documents were 'late'.

I would have though that if the system was faulty, there would have been numerous complaints and it would have been righted soon enough with email notices sent out to possible victims asking them to either resubmit or reapply or to contact the MOM directly. As I haven't had any notifications of glitches in the system (As an HR Practitioner & Manager I receive all of their notices when there are shutdowns or problem or maintenance issues).


There are other threads in this very forum outlining precisely the same problem, as well as at 'expats singapore'. Given that the support through both email and telephone seemed to be inefficient at best, (one might use the adjective 'incompetent' if one were less politically correct) it may not be surprising that HR would not have had direct contact with applicants regarding these issues.

The tendency in my experience so far is for people I have been in contact with to stick to a worldview whereby systemic problems do not exist.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 6:32 pm

Well.......

I've tried to help with some suggestions that have been received with an attitude, based on your last two paragraphs. Therefore, I will not bother to try any further. We are not the MOM here, so we cannot give you ironclad answers. Most intelligent people reading a forum would understand that. Good Luck to you.

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Postby ksl » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:01 pm

Just resubmit the application and make sure the documents are sent by registered post, making sure they arrive befor ethe 7 day limit is up.

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Re: epec rejected

Postby Sofia888 » Thu, 26 Jun 2008 5:57 pm

samurai wrote:Hi,

I have been rejected for epec but the worst part is that while applying online for epec it never asked me to upload any documents..

I am a graduate from a recognised university as per singapore govt requirements and also 12 years of experience and curently earning per month 2600 United Kingdom pounds which is equivalent to 6900 singapore dollars.

What is the appeal process if epec online system was at fault in not allowing me to upload my documents.

Any assistance will be highly appreciated.


you know samurai, when you applied for epec they will only ask your personal particulars, your passport number, your email address, and some qualifications. then submit. they will give you a number for you to check every now and then if it's rejected or approved.

some won't ask for your diploma and passport picture to be uploaded. and they'd just reject it even not seeing your uploaded materials.

I odn't know why and how do they know who will be rejected or not. besides even if you get it there's no assurance that you'd have a job or get a work pass. as many people have been rejected by epec and somehow felt unfair. but that's their rules. i felt the same way too as i got rejected also the time i applied for it but then i got a job that i want in SG :) .. so don't worry much bout your epec. it is not your loss.

oh and you cannot resubmit coz it's only a one time application., ONLY when you have higher qualifications or higher degree than your past application then they might re consider.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 26 Jun 2008 9:15 pm

A lot may well depend on the university your degree is from AND what your degree IS. All degrees from the same University are not created equal in the eyes of MOM. Sometimes a school has only one degree program that is recognized as acceptable according to their criteria (of which we don't have a clue so don't bother askin').

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Re: epec rejected

Postby caraski » Wed, 02 Jul 2008 3:18 pm

Sofia888 wrote:
you know samurai, when you applied for epec they will only ask your personal particulars, your passport number, your email address, and some qualifications. then submit. they will give you a number for you to check every now and then if it's rejected or approved.

some won't ask for your diploma and passport picture to be uploaded. and they'd just reject it even not seeing your uploaded materials.

I odn't know why and how do they know who will be rejected or not. besides even if you get it there's no assurance that you'd have a job or get a work pass. as many people have been rejected by epec and somehow felt unfair. but that's their rules. i felt the same way too as i got rejected also the time i applied for it but then i got a job that i want in SG :) .. so don't worry much bout your epec. it is not your loss.

oh and you cannot resubmit coz it's only a one time application., ONLY when you have higher qualifications or higher degree than your past application then they might re consider.

best regards!


actually, I just ignored the 'your application has been rejected' email I got, and resubmitted a new application the next day.

three days later they requested documents.

I submitted the documents, two days later I received an email that it had been approved.

Messed up system, but whatever, I have an EPEC now. *shrugs*

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Postby maasgar » Thu, 24 Jul 2008 2:21 pm

caraski,

hi. just wondering what you will do now that you have EPEC. are you planning on going to Singapore as soon as possible? Or, are you looking forward to going there sometime in the next 1 year (which is the validity of the certificate)?

My application status is pending as of now. I have just submitted the documents they asked for.

Did they send you a nice-looking certificate which you can print and show to the immigration officers at the port of entry to Singapore?

:)

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Re: epec rejected

Postby dacs33 » Mon, 15 Dec 2008 9:25 am

caraski wrote:
actually, I just ignored the 'your application has been rejected' email I got, and resubmitted a new application the next day.

three days later they requested documents.

I submitted the documents, two days later I received an email that it had been approved.

Messed up system, but whatever, I have an EPEC now. *shrugs*



caraski,

how did you resubmitted a new application?? it is said in epec that you cannot reapply/submit another application....

-let me know how, i was also rejected, but i guess i need another try, just like what you did...thnx

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Postby nyuura » Tue, 16 Dec 2008 6:37 pm

well, maybe a bit off topic... but i have a question

i am in singapore, but decided to take EPEC coz my visit pass is ending soon and i dont want to bother taking extended SVP, will i be eligible to do that?

or i have to go back to my country first then apply?


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