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Any Chinese Language Institute recognized by Gov. Real Help!

Postby kimtaymour » Thu, 29 May 2008 1:16 am

Guys I would like to know if there is a Chinese Language Institue who can prode you a student visa? You know any one which is recognize by the Ministry of Education?

Also My concern is this I want to learn Mandarin as a full time and work as a part-time in starbucks or burger's places... I know that to work (part-time) as a student in Singapore you must meet some criteria Like those Universities listed on the MOM websites and things like that...)

Well I found these 2 Institute
http://www.hua.com.sg
http://hanlanguage.edu.sg (this is a quiet confusing link though can't find the intakes and the wanted infos- will send them an email to enquire)

They could apply for a student visa but can I work as a part-time or not.. here is my Main Concern or I'll need to go through some process ??

Because I'llbe doing some job hunt if nothing turned up positive within the given time then join the Language Institute.

I am missing the Master Intake in NUS & NTU so I said why not to take in the mean while mandarin class to improve my chinese better and join the January intake

Please advice me !
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Postby kimtaymour » Fri, 30 May 2008 12:40 am

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Postby durain » Fri, 30 May 2008 1:06 am

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Postby kimtaymour » Fri, 30 May 2008 1:34 am

Ayo Durain be a bit serious lah... I need real help in here man

SMS & SE advice me please
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Postby taxico » Fri, 30 May 2008 4:21 am

i totally mis-read your post. i think most institutes will be able to arrange for a student pass/permit/visa for language courses! : )

-- parts of my original reply.

many people arrive for work in singapore without knowing how to string sentences up or a word of chinese.

maybe except: "ni hao, kung pow, wah wah, low mein, kung fu, jackie chan, bruce lee," and "whooooooooOOOOOOOoooo!"

regardless, singapore's a decent place to learn chinese-mandarin coz you'll have plenty of opportunities to practice it!

and you know what they say about practice!
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Re: Any Chinese Language Institute recognized by Gov. Real H

Postby ksl » Fri, 30 May 2008 4:24 am

kimtaymour wrote:Guys I would like to know if there is a Chinese Language Institue who can prode you a student visa? You know any one which is recognize by the Ministry of Education?

Also My concern is this I want to learn Mandarin as a full time and work as a part-time in starbucks or burger's places... I know that to work (part-time) as a student in Singapore you must meet some criteria Like those Universities listed on the MOM websites and things like that...)

Well I found these 2 Institute
http://www.hua.com.sg
http://hanlanguage.edu.sg (this is a quiet confusing link though can't find the intakes and the wanted infos- will send them an email to enquire)

They could apply for a student visa but can I work as a part-time or not.. here is my Main Concern or I'll need to go through some process ??

Because I'llbe doing some job hunt if nothing turned up positive within the given time then join the Language Institute.

I am missing the Master Intake in NUS & NTU so I said why not to take in the mean while mandarin class to improve my chinese better and join the January intake

Please advice me !

You would be a fool to study Chinese here in Singapore, for a few reasons.

1. That Singaporeans main language is English and they speak that badly.
2. Most Singaporeans would send their kids to China for mandarin, reason cost and better chance, to focus on speaking Mandarin.

Even the Vice president of NUS sent her son to mainland China, because I studied at the same uni, and met them both.

here's the link, although they have a centre in Singapore now...you will be distracted from focusing and it will cost you a fortune in Singapore, probably half the price in Beijing, they do everything for you, to get Visa.

But take my advice don't learn in Singapore, you need to be thrown into the deep end of society, where you are forced to communicate in Mandarin, not pigeon god knows what else, and tha's all you will experience out in Singapore, probably end up speaking English all the time.

I can vouch the the Beijing Institute, i studied there in 1991, and there were foreigners from every country, although the teaching methods are hard, and can be humiliating, the communist way, is to humiliate in front of all students. You will have 20 characters a day, as a beginner and you will be tested every morning, other than that, you don't get fed, if you cannot communicate.

I even got lost the first night because i was drunk, and couldn't find the way home, slept under a tree and woke up surrounded by a very large group of Chinese, trying to hide me from the local police. I was followed for the whole 9 months by secret police, but they were okay, just wanting to know my politic. It's most definitely changed for the better now! Go for it, I had a great time, I loved it, better than Singapore any day of the week. Back then I paid a hundred pound a month tuition and I think 25 US a night digs, and they were great with en suit shower and toilets, 2 to a room, for a full time 26 week. Go for it! but you will have to be quick to get the documentation done, I would advise not to do the medical before you get there, they will ignore it, because they want your money, you will have to join a long queue, if you want processing fast, a charge will probably be made.

There is also the british council teachers on campus. you can also study online, although in Beijing there is a minefield of books and flash cards, which i have been selling in UK for along time. it's moe than paid for my study trip. I sent language books home every week for libraries and W H Smith, and sold them on my return. still selling a box of flash cards for 10 pounds a box, 1450 characters, with pin yin and stroke order, too! Although they are not here in Singapore so, you have had it, but you can get them at the branch office in Sing, i guess.

http://www.blcu.edu.cn/blcuweb/english/index-en.asp

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Postby ksl » Fri, 30 May 2008 4:40 am

taxico wrote:i totally mis-read your post. i think most institutes will be able to arrange for a student pass/permit/visa for language courses! : )

-- parts of my original reply.

many people arrive for work in singapore without knowing how to string sentences up or a word of chinese.

maybe except: "ni hao, kung pow, wah wah, low mein, kung fu, jackie chan, bruce lee," and "whooooooooOOOOOOOoooo!"

regardless, singapore's a decent place to learn chinese-mandarin coz you'll have plenty of opportunities to practice it!

and you know what they say about practice!


You must be joking, have you seen the school results of the local community, you better believe it, its poor, very poor in Singapore! Mainland Chinese run rings round them, only one way to learn and that's the right way! Even my brother in law, is paying for extra Chinese for both his sons, because the level is very poor and my own daughter only got a B pass, which is not good enough to be upgraded, into advanced learning, although my daughter is used to traditional Chinese. Singapore is not a good place to learn Chinese, far from it!

Although some have no alternatives, those that can afford it and have the time, will be on the next plane to China. not surrounded by foreigners attempting to speak Chinese. 3 months in China and you will have the dialect too, if your good.

Mind you I was a bu hao student, and the teachers never let me forget it, but i had a great party, for 9 months. It is difficult to study with 350 women in the next dorm! and being single and English, it was paradise!

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Postby kimtaymour » Fri, 30 May 2008 5:15 am

KSL WOW great story i appreciate all your effort but as i have saifd i have to take it in Singapore I got no choice other Plan are mapped ot that, that why.

But your information are definitly taken into consideraton dear many thanks...

Taxico - yo man, good at least now you endured me that i can get a student visa done.. now 2 things left can I work in I get the stident Visa done from the Institute? Second Hua Language center are offering a 10 weeks full-time chinese course for 2200 SGD (got other fees about 400 SGD) pretty expensive ha chekci it out:

"http://www.hua.com.sg/courses/mandarin/1541.htm"

I think its one on the best in town out there If am not wrong...Do you think there are others with affordable price?
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Postby durain » Fri, 30 May 2008 5:57 am

if i am not mistaken, you can only apply for a student visa if the school/colleage/uni are in the approved list by MOE/ICA. you will have to be accepted by the school/colleage/uni before you can apply for a student visa.

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Postby taxico » Fri, 30 May 2008 6:03 am

i certainly wasn't advocating singapore the best place to learn chinese-mandarin! (coz it certainly isn't...)

but since kim has time to kill and would like to get to singapore earlier to learn an extra language, i think singapore's not a bad place to practice it.

surely it's a better place (outside of china and taiwan) than any where else... right? i think you would need to go to the sticks of south korea to come close.

singaporeans certainly speak a variant of mandarin that most chinese recognize as sub-par, but it'll pass in china and taiwan.

come on over to enhance your cheena skills, kimtaylormooouur! don't be afraid to leanr to speak the singapore mandarin! :lol:

just mention in your email that you're a foreign student and would like to know if they are MOE-approved for visa purposes.

do so BEFORE paying them!

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Postby taxico » Fri, 30 May 2008 6:11 am

but if kim's trying to attain the language powers of that caucasian dude in china who hawks electronic-translators on tv, posters, magazines and newspapers...

then head on over to the middle kingdom, instead. otherwise, there's much proof out there that one can get by in PRC/ROC with singapore-taught mandarin.

just like how one can get by in UK/US with singapore-taught english. it's not perfect, but it'll do the trick.

alright, end of thread for me.

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Postby ksl » Fri, 30 May 2008 6:24 am

taxico wrote:but if kim's trying to attain the language powers of that caucasian dude in china who hawks electronic-translators on tv, posters, magazines and newspapers...

then head on over to the middle kingdom, instead. otherwise, there's much proof out there that one can get by in PRC/ROC with singapore-taught mandarin.

just like how one can get by in UK/US with singapore-taught english. it's not perfect, but it'll do the trick.

alright, end of thread for me.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 30 May 2008 12:55 pm

For the record, you can only work part time if you are attending one of the qualified schools that I posted the links to in another thread that your decided to butt into.

Did you bother to go to the links and read them? (it was posted for your benefit as well as the OP's) It would seem you did not bother or you would not be asking the same things here.

Oh, and the comment about not having enough time. With the number of posts you have made I would say it's not too little time that you cannot at least spell check before you hit the send message. Use the preview button first. Otherwise, I am beginning to think you should start with English Lessons before you start Chinese. Yes, I know your are more fluent in French. You have told us. All the more reason to use the spell-checker.

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Postby kimtaymour » Fri, 30 May 2008 6:39 pm

As Taxico said Sinagpore isn't that bad place to learn chinese-mandarin. Sure I will ask them if they are MoM-aprroved Institutes before i pay the fees lor..

But if am there and none of them isn't MoM-Approved or endoresed lets call is so then I will be with no choice except join and learn and wait either for a job or the Master Intake in January

SMS - don't worry man am trying my best to minimize all the mistakes ;)

also don't think I don't read what you say, you are giving away valuable infos so am reading them... and that link you posted about the University exempted from working permit I have been through it and since I couldn't see any single Institute so I came here and asked for help meh
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 30 May 2008 11:45 pm

Do you think we can influence MOM? If it isn't on the list, it won't fly. End of Story. You have to work within MOM's parameters, not the other way around. :roll:


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