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Postby wobuzhidao » Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:24 pm

Hi ppl,

I will be going to taiwan soon. I would like to ask if any forumers here did fat transfer in Taiwan? I have read until page 10 and so far the topics are related to nose or eyes.

I would like to do fat transfer to cover panda eyes. Any forumers have experience on this procedure or have any doctors to recommend? thanks.

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Postby cersepn » Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:30 pm

:o Got such thing? How to cover the panda eyes?

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Postby appletree » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 1:23 pm

boii18 wrote:guys i think the boyish shape face bahs.. i think the square face is cliched, but there ARE girls who like it. now the trend is the jap style i guess. haha! but most important dude is the proportions and individual features bahs. face shape is NOT a true determinant of beauty but it can help or minus point de... e.g u see angelina jolie abit square, or u see paris hilton so square, and btw american standard of beauty allows for models/actress to have squarely faces with high cheekbones. normal ovalish faces are considered as boring,

for me, personally guys and gals shd go for the sharper, narrower look with slim jawline and not so prominent cheekbones because eventually its a look that spells YOUTH and youth never runs out of fashion. u always wanna look younger than your age when u're in ur 20s. square look make u look older


Hi boii18,

i dont agree with what you say on the prominent cheekbones and suarish jaw on a man as i have a handful of male friends with squarish jaws and promient cheekbones but still look so young in their 30s. Maybe you are right if you are refering to the females with promient cheekbones that tends to look older, but nothing to do with squarish look.

Hi mikko_baby80,

thank you for the wishes :) , im still healing everyday and hoping my nose will deswell faster. hehe

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Postby aadvark » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 2:50 pm

appletree wrote:
boii18 wrote:guys i think the boyish shape face bahs.. i think the square face is cliched, but there ARE girls who like it. now the trend is the jap style i guess. haha! but most important dude is the proportions and individual features bahs. face shape is NOT a true determinant of beauty but it can help or minus point de... e.g u see angelina jolie abit square, or u see paris hilton so square, and btw american standard of beauty allows for models/actress to have squarely faces with high cheekbones. normal ovalish faces are considered as boring,

for me, personally guys and gals shd go for the sharper, narrower look with slim jawline and not so prominent cheekbones because eventually its a look that spells YOUTH and youth never runs out of fashion. u always wanna look younger than your age when u're in ur 20s. square look make u look older


Hi boii18,

i dont agree with what you say on the prominent cheekbones and suarish jaw on a man as i have a handful of male friends with squarish jaws and promient cheekbones but still look so young in their 30s. Maybe you are right if you are refering to the females with promient cheekbones that tends to look older, but nothing to do with squarish look.

Hi mikko_baby80,

thank you for the wishes :) , im still healing everyday and hoping my nose will deswell faster. hehe


just a side note, looking young can have its disadvantages. some ppl (the uninformed) equate youth to inexperience and that's a drawback in the job...

*edited my post, i guess it should be looking TOO young can have its disadvantages. e.g. lookin 21 when you're 30, no one's going to take you seriously
Next: Forehead augmentation, botox, RF

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Postby hello84 » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 8:13 pm

yeah!! agreed.. i think boi18 is still young... still in army right?? for your age look boyish is good!!! but not for those age between 24 - 29... look slightly young is still okay larr..:)

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Postby mikko_baby80 » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:24 pm

for me i can't really differentiate a square or oval face. lol.. but i find tat beauty lies in all features. even if u hv a nice face shape with a pretty nose but if eyes is not nice, overall won't be consider as pretty or handsome. anyway, i find wu zun seems to be perfect in every way. he's so handsome! *saliva drooping* lol.. :D

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2549 ... 87mgb6.jpg

appletree: does ur rib wound still hurts?
unheardof: how r u coping at workplace? hope everything is fine.. healing condition still ok mah?

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Postby UglyPiglet » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:49 pm

mikko_baby80 wrote:for me i can't really differentiate a square or oval face. lol.. but i find tat beauty lies in all features. even if u hv a nice face shape with a pretty nose but if eyes is not nice, overall won't be consider as pretty or handsome. anyway, i find wu zun seems to be perfect in every way. he's so handsome! *saliva drooping* lol.. :D

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2549 ... 87mgb6.jpg

appletree: does ur rib wound still hurts?
unheardof: how r u coping at workplace? hope everything is fine.. healing condition still ok mah?


Aiyo Wu Zun, he got the looks, the body, the wealth, the fame, really envy him ~!!! Hai~! To console myself abit, I still have my coming surgery to fall back on :-|

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Postby mikko_baby80 » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17 pm

aiya.. dun lidat say la.. i rem u hv single eyelid rite.. most ppl who hv single eyelid will hv a drastic difference. so far fr all the photos i've seen those ppl who hv single eyelid who undergo eyelid surgery hv positive results! im sure u'll transform into a dude too! bet wun lose to wu zun! stay positive wor.. wishing u all the best in ur upcoming op~ :D

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Postby UglyPiglet » Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:23 pm

mikko_baby80 wrote:aiya.. dun lidat say la.. i rem u hv single eyelid rite.. most ppl who hv single eyelid will hv a drastic difference. so far fr all the photos i've seen those ppl who hv single eyelid who undergo eyelid surgery hv positive results! im sure u'll transform into a dude too! bet wun lose to wu zun! stay positive wor.. wishing u all the best in ur upcoming op~ :D


I'm looking forward for the transformation, Thanks :)

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Postby weeles » Sat, 29 Nov 2008 8:28 am

Hi UglyPiglet,

what I meant by fatty eyelids is that my upper eyelids looked puffy,even if I applied thick eyeliner, it just wouldnt show if I opened my eyes, and if I pressed the lids, I could feel the fats there. I posted my before photo here about 3 weeks ago, u can check it out.

Hm, I think dr Su tends to be firm on her decision. She will only do crease that really suits ur eye shape. I initially asked for medium parallel crease, but she insisted on doing low tapered on me, so low that if I open my eyes real wide, the crease will disappear. She said that I don't have enough space between my eyes and eyebrow. That's why I went to dr Chuang instead, I thought if I already made the decision to do my eyes, why settle for something less? well, that's just me, dont want rugi.. tee hee

I requested to see photos of her previous eyejobs, but she refused to show them, maybe due to some privacy issues? not really sure why..

You could bring some photos and tell her what type of eyes u would like to have, but don't expect that she'll 'ok' your preferences. As I said, she prefers natural crease, whatever best for your eye and facial features.

Yes, I think mini incision is also known as korean method (1 cm cut in the middle of each eyelid), and I already look ok in 1 month. Even on the 2nd week with some concealer I could already go out without sunnies. I'm not sure about the recovery period of full incision, but it'll def take longer than 1 month.

Don't worry UglyPiglet, dr. Su has great reputation, I'm sure you'll be in good hand. Or in the worst case, you can still go to another doctor :)

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Postby moonlight_pmdct » Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:30 am

feline.eyes wrote:
moonlight_pmdct wrote:Feline,
If I'm not mistaken, you have your eyes done by Dr. Chuang right??
Why did you choose Dr. Chuang over Dr. Su?
Also, because of my time limitation, i'm also looking into stitch method. In your opinion, what do you think about the stitch method?


Dr Su only does primary; mine is revisional.

After reading and knowing (and experiencing) a lot more about blepharoplasty, in my opinion, any type of stitching method is dumb looking and a poor choice... It does not emulate natural looking creases and may "fade" over time.

Pros:
-shorter down time
-less scarring

Cons:
-may disappear over the years as tissue and sutures weaken
-unnatural looking folds (the fold is permanent and does not emulate natural looking creases which disappear when you close your eyes)
-may complicate future revisional work because of the suture placement

So if you are looking into a shorter down time, I think mini incisional is a much, much better choice then the 3 point suture method. You get the full works of fats removal and rearrangement for natural looking creases. As for possible recovery in two weeks? Only your body knows...

Virtual erratum (hahaha...):

feline.eyes wrote:Anyone who have read this thread will notice, no one here has actually gone to Dr Su yet (actual procedure).


cersepn wrote:Someone before you had her eyes done with dr su, i think? Within 2 weeks, she looks fantastic already. You might wanna look in the previous pages to see if her photo's still there. There's a few methods the tw surgeons use, one of which is the mini 3 point incision, which lets the eyes heal very fast. You can read more about that in dr chuang's website


Sorry that I missed the Dr Su review.



Feline.eyes,
Thank you for your response. I really appreciate your opinion.
Did you have a chance to take a look at Dr. Yang from Hi-pretty double eyelids pictures or talk to him? He said he invented a procedure where the double eyelids doesn't disappear and also he can do fat removal while doing just the suturing method. What do you think of this?

Thanks

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Postby moonlight_pmdct » Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:34 am

weeles wrote:Hi UglyPiglet,

what I meant by fatty eyelids is that my upper eyelids looked puffy,even if I applied thick eyeliner, it just wouldnt show if I opened my eyes, and if I pressed the lids, I could feel the fats there. I posted my before photo here about 3 weeks ago, u can check it out.

Hm, I think dr Su tends to be firm on her decision. She will only do crease that really suits ur eye shape. I initially asked for medium parallel crease, but she insisted on doing low tapered on me, so low that if I open my eyes real wide, the crease will disappear. She said that I don't have enough space between my eyes and eyebrow. That's why I went to dr Chuang instead, I thought if I already made the decision to do my eyes, why settle for something less? well, that's just me, dont want rugi.. tee hee

I requested to see photos of her previous eyejobs, but she refused to show them, maybe due to some privacy issues? not really sure why..

You could bring some photos and tell her what type of eyes u would like to have, but don't expect that she'll 'ok' your preferences. As I said, she prefers natural crease, whatever best for your eye and facial features.

Yes, I think mini incision is also known as korean method (1 cm cut in the middle of each eyelid), and I already look ok in 1 month. Even on the 2nd week with some concealer I could already go out without sunnies. I'm not sure about the recovery period of full incision, but it'll def take longer than 1 month.

Don't worry UglyPiglet, dr. Su has great reputation, I'm sure you'll be in good hand. Or in the worst case, you can still go to another doctor :)


Wat???!!! she doesn't let you see any of the pics of previous surgeries?? yikes! what am i supposed to do?? I want to see the pics because that's how I can see the surgeon's works.

Yea Weeles, you are right that Dr. Su has a great reputation, but unfortunately I tried to find a patient of hers and/or their pics (not the ones on her website), but it's no luck.

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Postby Annakilly » Sun, 30 Nov 2008 3:51 pm

Hello everyone, i have been following this thread and i've finally decided to go for cheek implants. So this post is directed to Vickyabc who went for cheek implants not long back :)

Vickyabc i'm sorry but i can't send you a PM because i have too little posts :(
If you would be kind enough to help me address the following i would be really grateful because you have first hand info!

If anyone of you dear ladies or gentlemen have the answers and would like to reply this post, pls feel free to do so, thank you very much in advance!

1) How long did your swelling for the cheeks last before you were presentable to the public without them knowing you just went for surgery?
*Most websites says two weeks would be ideal. But was one week enough for you? I don't intend to tell my friends and family about this :oops:

2) Was your implants sillicone or gortex?

3) Oh and is it true that the cheek implants will look natural in only 3 months?

Please do reply me if you see this, thank you so much <3

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Postby feline.eyes » Sun, 30 Nov 2008 4:35 pm

moonlight_pmdct wrote:Feline.eyes,
Thank you for your response. I really appreciate your opinion.
Did you have a chance to take a look at Dr. Yang from Hi-pretty double eyelids pictures or talk to him? He said he invented a procedure where the double eyelids doesn't disappear and also he can do fat removal while doing just the suturing method. What do you think of this?

Thanks


Yeah, I have seen some of the pictures posted on Hi Pretty ^_^

I guess it is just another variation of the suture method. Many doctors have come up with their own version of the suture method and given them various different names. The traditional suture method has just gone through many changes in other to improve the results... In order to ensure "stability" and prevent the weakening of the sutures, many doctors now use the double twisting method, all with their own personal approach of course. According to the doctors performing the method, they have low failure rates. In my opinion, it is still relatively new so I don't have any conclusive view on the issue. And you also brought up the fact that fats are also removed so I guess it must be some kind of 3 point suture procedure. By the way, the name itself is kind of misleading because incisions always have to be made, the difference being the size... you have to create a flesh wound to remove the fats.

Regardless of what method you decide on, I think the most important thing is to find out the pros and cons of each procedure and see if you can live with those conditions. And then find a doctor who specialises in the procedures that you have decided upon. In my opinion, I hate the suture method because the crease is ever present even if you close your eyes.
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Postby babyangel » Sun, 30 Nov 2008 5:10 pm

Hi,

cud someone provide Dr Chung's email address? im thinking of checking with him to do double eyelids but only on 1 eye (to balance with my other eye).

Besides Dr Su, cud anyone recommend a surgeon in Taiwan who is Really good at doing double eyelids?

thanks. :)


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