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Re: thanks cersepn....

Postby appletree » Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:08 pm

feline.eyes wrote:
tobehunk wrote:
do you share wif us the whole process, like

pre ops: how did the surgeon recommend autologous graft for you. which part - rib or ear graft?

ops: is the surgery separate from the nose one? which part did they get the graft? what is the pain level? scar level? under GA or LA?

post op: how is scar n nose healing now? do you wait a few days after the graft surgery for the surgeon to shape the graft to fit? what other post op care do they provide for the graft n nose?

what is the price tat dr quote u? is it separate from the nose? will the graft grow back in your body? what are the possible implications? fever?

sorry feline eyes for the long list of questions.. hope you can oblige me.. BIG thanks!! = )


I decided that I wanted an autologous Rhinoplasty and went about searching for a doctor who does that. Ear cartilage has limits; it can only raise your bridge minimally (limited material can be harvested due to the small harvest site). My nose is pretty flat.

If you read my original post you would get a pretty good idea what the surgery entails.

The scar is alright and within an acceptable range, plus it will continue to fade.

There are plenty of quotes given by my doctor that are floating around in this thread. I prefer not to divulge. And yes, it is a one price thing; no hidden charges.

You can get an infection for an autologous surgery and it is bad if you do, there will be a high level of resorption. But that is due to the nature of having a surgery; being cut up. Secondary infection due to rejection will not occur due to the fact that it is an autologous implant. So once you have recovered from the surgery, you should be set for life without worries about your implant site (that is if you are satisfied about the aesthetic results already).


Hi feline.eyes :) :) :) ,

must thank you for making me have the drive to do autology rhinoplasty :)
Oh, want to ask you,any idea what's the safe period for infection free nose and chest wound? TIA~ :)

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Postby gingerbabe » Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:38 pm

Dr Kao has replied my email for autologous rhinoplasty & suggest that i also do chin implant, he says that my chin is too small. He says that i should use rib grafting for the implant as i prefer not to have foreign implants.

I also called WISH Clinic to enquire about kai yan tou & told Miss Huang that i'll also be doing rib grafting rhino & she said that she has not heard of Dr Kao. She says she dont understand why many Singaporeans prefer the autologous method which is for people who had very bad accident to their nose. I feel that i should have as little implants inside me as possible. Can someone enligten me further, now lost if i should be doing rib grafting rhino or silicon/gortex rhino?

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Re: thanks cersepn....

Postby tobehunk » Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:38 am

feline.eyes wrote:
tobehunk wrote:
do you share wif us the whole process, like

pre ops: how did the surgeon recommend autologous graft for you. which part - rib or ear graft?

ops: is the surgery separate from the nose one? which part did they get the graft? what is the pain level? scar level? under GA or LA?

post op: how is scar n nose healing now? do you wait a few days after the graft surgery for the surgeon to shape the graft to fit? what other post op care do they provide for the graft n nose?

what is the price tat dr quote u? is it separate from the nose? will the graft grow back in your body? what are the possible implications? fever?

sorry feline eyes for the long list of questions.. hope you can oblige me.. BIG thanks!! = )


I decided that I wanted an autologous Rhinoplasty and went about searching for a doctor who does that. Ear cartilage has limits; it can only raise your bridge minimally (limited material can be harvested due to the small harvest site). My nose is pretty flat.

If you read my original post you would get a pretty good idea what the surgery entails.

The scar is alright and within an acceptable range, plus it will continue to fade.

There are plenty of quotes given by my doctor that are floating around in this thread. I prefer not to divulge. And yes, it is a one price thing; no hidden charges.

You can get an infection for an autologous surgery and it is bad if you do, there will be a high level of resorption. But that is due to the nature of having a surgery; being cut up. Secondary infection due to rejection will not occur due to the fact that it is an autologous implant. So once you have recovered from the surgery, you should be set for life without worries about your implant site (that is if you are satisfied about the aesthetic results already).


wow... thanks for sharing feline.eyes... it means alot to me... it cleared up on the rationale behind ear or rib graft!!
i go look for your original posts to read abt the surgery..... is it on this thread: Plastic Surgery in Taiwan? or the thread on overseas?

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Postby Jocundster » Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:49 am

appletree wrote:
meili_wudi wrote:hey appletree, i am doing my nose with Dr Kao next month too. U did full autologous?

Dr chuang quoted me TWD60000 for medpor chin, find it quite expensive..



Hi meili,

dont worry, you will be in good hands! 8-) He is a very patient and caringt doctor, and will did his best to give you what you want. My bf saw the stitches under my chest and he commented that dr kao is really a very skillful doctor, there isnt any blood from my chest wound at all!! :D To see a doctor skillful or not can simply see from the way he stitches up the wound.
Dr Kao told me that there will be a singaporean going to see him next week, anyone's going ?

I find that dr chuang did quite well for medpor chin, can see from some of the forumers from here who went to dr chuang for the medpor chin implant..



Hi Appletree,

Not sure if Dr Kao is referring to me as i am going there on 26th Nov.. lol~ But when the day is drawing nearer, i'm getting more excited over it~!~~! Even though I haven't got the chance to meet up with Dr Kao but i trust him somehow... with my gut feelings~ *grins~*

To all: How did you feel one week before your Rhinoplasty surgery trip?
Excited? afraid? stoned????????? :lol:


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Re: thanks cersepn....

Postby feline.eyes » Wed, 12 Nov 2008 1:03 am

appletree wrote:Hi feline.eyes :) :) :) ,

must thank you for making me have the drive to do autology rhinoplasty :)
Oh, want to ask you,any idea what's the safe period for infection free nose and chest wound? TIA~ :)


I think it would depend on the individual, pretty much case by case. I think it is just important for you to take good care of it now and be religious about taking your antibiotics. Monitor it closely and don't be afraid to go to a doctor if you feel that something is off. Just eat healthily and rest well.

Take good care yah? ^_^
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Re: thanks cersepn....

Postby feline.eyes » Wed, 12 Nov 2008 1:07 am

tobehunk wrote:wow... thanks for sharing feline.eyes... it means alot to me... it cleared up on the rationale behind ear or rib graft!!
i go look for your original posts to read abt the surgery..... is it on this thread: Plastic Surgery in Taiwan? or the thread on overseas?


Yeah, the posts are in this thread ^_^
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Postby kittygirl8 » Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:13 pm

appletree wrote:
kittygirl8 wrote:Hi appletree,

Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. It really means alot as I'll be heading off next month for my rinoplasty with Dr Kao too...am feeling jittery just thinking about it! :)

May I check with you how come the surgery take such a long time? Is it usually that long and does the hospital provide meals and food? Is it edible??

Hope to hear from you again soon. Take care and rest well :)

Kitty xx


Hi kittygal,

Dont worry, he's a nice and very reputable doctor. :) not a problem, i believe by sharing, more people will come to know about autology rhinoplasty! 8-) It's not a big operation lar, to the nurses and doctors, autology rhinoplasty is just a small surgery only!! :o lol...because the moment when i was being pushed to the surgery room, i keep asking the nurses will it be very painful..lol... but now you see, i still can shop around and laugh on my 5th day liao. ..but sad lar, cant stay until i remove the stitches,need to rush back, wasted the next 3 days apartment room fees somemore and have to pay extra on the changing dates for return tickets.
ahh yes, regarding the surgery, i think mine took longer because i have damaged nasal tissue and he needs to repair the damage bah. The hospital does not provides meals, but u can order food from them before you go for the surgery, or either you have to ask the person who goes with u to take away food from 7 eleven next door.



Hi appletree,

Thanks for your kind advise, really really appreciate that. :) Hope you're healing well now and have plenty of rest.

May I check with you do we need to bring our own saline, or other solution to clear the nose or the hospital will provide?

Please kindly advise me.

Thanks again.

Kitty xx

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Postby vickyabc » Thu, 13 Nov 2008 1:51 pm

Hi Appletree

How r u feeling?? Wish u Speedy recovery and pretty pretty!!

Hearing that u mention about shopping at taiwan OMG i miss it so much! i shop till my bf's pocket got burned.

Shop more, makes u happy and thus speedy recovery! Thats my moto and "excuses" to my bf

Take care and do update us on ur status k..

Vicky



appletree wrote:Hi people,

im now here in taipei, just had my rib autology done with dr.Kao. Will just update alittle bit first.

Day 1 - Consultation with dr.kao, he sure does is a very patient and friendly doctor. He was very busy as on and off there's patient seeing him on that day. There was a taiwanese lady at the counter registering for admittion to the hospital, as she will have her rib autology on that day. Rib autology is rather common in taiwan i think. However, seems like most of his patients are local, very few foreigners as he was asking how come i know about his autology rhinoplasty.

Day 2 - admit into the hospital. Was really scared and frighten! I still get to see dr kao before i went in to the surgery room to have GA..so i keep repeating to him that i do not want to have a pinch or too sharp and tall nose, something nice like the picture i provided and which is good for mian xiang. Though dr kao said that he's not going to touch the side of my nose, due to the scars created when i did my nose in "KALO", i was at first very disappointed when he said he will not expand the alar (as i felt my nose abit pinched), but when i came out of the surgery room, dr kao told my bf that he tried his best to expand abit of my alar, but he didnt do much to my nose tip for this time, he just used septal cartilage for my nose rib, and he said after 1 year when the nose has stabalise, i can still consider for revision for the nose tip using ear cartilage. He had even corrected my nostril as i had very small nostril, now like abit bigger opening and he said that the nose tissue inside which was damanged by the previous nose job at KALO.

As for the pain, i was on the bed whole day after i came out of the surgery room. The sugery was from 1pm till 9pm in the night, which was an 8 hours surgery!! I didnt experiences vommiting or naeseous right after the surgery, just the sore throat pain, mouth dry, thirsty and i even feel hurgry.. hehe. But i felt really painful to climb up from bed as i drank too much orange juice. Some of the nurses there are okay but theres one who is really damn! Basically, the nurses will not bother you unless you press the bell for them. I was lucky that my bf was there for me whole night in the hospital room, i got discharged out from the hospital the next day evening.

My appetite was ok and i keep visiting the toilet, so you can imagine me having to bear with the pain when i climb up from the bed. Im able to walk around the room on day 3 onwards, today is day 4,everythings fine, the chest wound getting lesser pain, but still pain lar when i cough, climb up, sniff or laugh.. hehe

Will be seeing dr kao tomorrow for the wound dressing. Its really cold in taipei now, will try to update abit when im back to sg :)

Im sure my new nose will definately looks better than the previous one, lets wait for few days more to remove the stitches.

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Postby vickyabc » Thu, 13 Nov 2008 2:14 pm

Hi Guys

And i have received quite a number of ppl asking for the taipei cabby no.

His name is Ray, Mobile 0915 033 395
If u r in taiwan dial +886 915 033 395 Without the 0

Remember to quote Vicky..

Attached is some of our outing pics! We went outing twice! First was with his wife (bbq).. So much fun!

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Postby vickyabc » Thu, 13 Nov 2008 2:28 pm

Hi Guys

Im updating on my cheek implant with dr chuang..

for the first few days post op my cheek swell like a hamster storing up food for World War III !!!!

the stitches is in the upper inner mouth thus doesnt affects my food comsumption problem!

But now my nose is not as sharp :(

im really very very worried as i really like my previous nose.. Dont know whether is the swelling or does cheek implant changes ur nose shape???

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Dr Chuang and me!!! All i can say is that i miss him! Im sure he misses my rubbish talk with him too!
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Miss Huang And Me!! She has such a friendly personality.. We became good friends too!!
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Vicky ;)

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Postby appletree » Thu, 13 Nov 2008 2:41 pm

Jocundster wrote:
appletree wrote:
meili_wudi wrote:hey appletree, i am doing my nose with Dr Kao next month too. U did full autologous?

Dr chuang quoted me TWD60000 for medpor chin, find it quite expensive..



Hi meili,

dont worry, you will be in good hands! 8-) He is a very patient and caringt doctor, and will did his best to give you what you want. My bf saw the stitches under my chest and he commented that dr kao is really a very skillful doctor, there isnt any blood from my chest wound at all!! :D To see a doctor skillful or not can simply see from the way he stitches up the wound.
Dr Kao told me that there will be a singaporean going to see him next week, anyone's going ?

I find that dr chuang did quite well for medpor chin, can see from some of the forumers from here who went to dr chuang for the medpor chin implant..



Hi Appletree,

Not sure if Dr Kao is referring to me as i am going there on 26th Nov.. lol~ But when the day is drawing nearer, i'm getting more excited over it~!~~! Even though I haven't got the chance to meet up with Dr Kao but i trust him somehow... with my gut feelings~ *grins~*

To all: How did you feel one week before your Rhinoplasty surgery trip?
Excited? afraid? stoned????????? :lol:


JocUnd


Hi Jocundster,

good luck for your surgery and pretty pretty comes back :) . Be sure to communicate to the doctor and dont be shy to ask him questions :)
Dont worry, you are in safe hands. :)
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Re: thanks cersepn....

Postby appletree » Thu, 13 Nov 2008 3:03 pm

feline.eyes wrote:
appletree wrote:Hi feline.eyes :) :) :) ,

must thank you for making me have the drive to do autology rhinoplasty :)
Oh, want to ask you,any idea what's the safe period for infection free nose and chest wound? TIA~ :)


I think it would depend on the individual, pretty much case by case. I think it is just important for you to take good care of it now and be religious about taking your antibiotics. Monitor it closely and don't be afraid to go to a doctor if you feel that something is off. Just eat healthily and rest well.

Take good care yah? ^_^



Hi Feline,
Thanks for the advise :) , oh dear i noticed that i have only been prescribed 5 days of antibiotics and medicines, where as the 2 other days are taken during the hospital stay. How many days of antibiotics were you given after the surgery? Its great that your nose looks good now and you have recovered well :D
Oh by the way, just received an email from dr kao that the safe period for infection free will be a month.. so i guess i shall be staying home for a month.. :roll:

Hi kittygirl8,

Oh no need to bring own saline, they will give you small bottle of lotion to clean the nose wound area.

Hi vickyabc,

thanks for the wishes. :) Im feeling great now though its my post-op 7th day. I so hoping to recover faster then can go out..hehe
Dont worry, you still looks great even with the puffy cheeks :)
oh yes, dr chuang is very nice doctor too

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Re: thanks cersepn....

Postby feline.eyes » Fri, 14 Nov 2008 3:15 am

appletree wrote:Hi Feline,
Thanks for the advise :) , oh dear i noticed that i have only been prescribed 5 days of antibiotics and medicines, where as the 2 other days are taken during the hospital stay. How many days of antibiotics were you given after the surgery? Its great that your nose looks good now and you have recovered well :D
Oh by the way, just received an email from dr kao that the safe period for infection free will be a month.. so i guess i shall be staying home for a month.. :roll:

Hi kittygirl8,

Oh no need to bring own saline, they will give you small bottle of lotion to clean the nose wound area.

Hi vickyabc,

thanks for the wishes. :) Im feeling great now though its my post-op 7th day. I so hoping to recover faster then can go out..hehe
Dont worry, you still looks great even with the puffy cheeks :)
oh yes, dr chuang is very nice doctor too


I did two surgeries with two different doctors and they prescribed different types of antibiotics. Dr Hsu prescribed a longer course and Dr Chuang a shorter course. I think Dr Chuang's was stronger and they lasted only a week or five days... I think.
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Postby vickyabc » Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:05 am

Normally he only gives a week... But for my nose infection i was on drip twice a day for a week and he prescibe me TWO weeks antibiotics to bring back..

Scared me.. He told me Worst case senerio is that i have to remove my nose implant!!!!

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Postby TreeHugger » Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:34 pm

Anyone under 20 did any procedures with Dr. Kao?

On his website it says you need parental permission.. 20 seems a bit too old for parental permission, no?


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