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No larhz. There's a difference between an informal exchange on a forum and writing to a doctor one lehz. I didn't know that we can't use singlish on this forum.tanjhj wrote:hi, sorry to say this, is it the way you write emails? if u write like me in the forums. sure he chin chai or dun reply ur emails as he may not get what u are writing abt. also, writing need to have certain "manners and presentation" to protray a good image to others.foubelle wrote:thank you feline_eyes! I was searching the website trying to find the email then cannot find at all.
I emailed dr kao also lehz. He like very chin chai like that. Also, I kept on telling him I don't want alarplasty, don't want alarplasty, got other ways to make the nose slimmer without alarplasty not, and he totally never reply my question at all lorhz, just keep on saying we can do alarplasty.
but i admit larhz, compared to dr hsu's pictures, i like his style more lehz. how how huh?
also why no alarplasty? since u are doing rib implant (i assume) alarplasty is just 2 small additional scars on top of the big scar via open incision..
Of course there's a difference between alar scars and the other scars larhz. Rib scars are hidden underneath the clothes, i don't walk around naked what. As for the open rhino scar, it's on the columbella and it relatively hidden but alar scars horhz, it's on the sides of your nose. confirm can see even if it's well done.
also i went to look at a lot of the alar pictures, all the nostrils became pointy from the the front view.
also asking only horhz, have you done any plastic surgery before huh? It's like you talk alot about all the doctors, about how good they are and everything but you never say anything about your personal experience lehz. If you never experience before, how you know? like must tell us where you get your info and link back to the source mah.
Well, Dr Kao is a very reputable doctor, i dont have any problems with him though, in fact i find him a very nice and caring doctor, understanding too. Maybe he's just too busy and or didnt understand what you mean?
foubelle wrote:No larhz. There's a difference between an informal exchange on a forum and writing to a doctor one lehz. I didn't know that we can't use singlish on this forum.tanjhj wrote:hi, sorry to say this, is it the way you write emails? if u write like me in the forums. sure he chin chai or dun reply ur emails as he may not get what u are writing abt. also, writing need to have certain "manners and presentation" to protray a good image to others.foubelle wrote:thank you feline_eyes! I was searching the website trying to find the email then cannot find at all.
I emailed dr kao also lehz. He like very chin chai like that. Also, I kept on telling him I don't want alarplasty, don't want alarplasty, got other ways to make the nose slimmer without alarplasty not, and he totally never reply my question at all lorhz, just keep on saying we can do alarplasty.
but i admit larhz, compared to dr hsu's pictures, i like his style more lehz. how how huh?
also why no alarplasty? since u are doing rib implant (i assume) alarplasty is just 2 small additional scars on top of the big scar via open incision..
Of course there's a difference between alar scars and the other scars larhz. Rib scars are hidden underneath the clothes, i don't walk around naked what. As for the open rhino scar, it's on the columbella and it relatively hidden but alar scars horhz, it's on the sides of your nose. confirm can see even if it's well done.
also i went to look at a lot of the alar pictures, all the nostrils became pointy from the the front view.
also asking only horhz, have you done any plastic surgery before huh? It's like you talk alot about all the doctors, about how good they are and everything but you never say anything about your personal experience lehz. If you never experience before, how you know? like must tell us where you get your info and link back to the source mah.
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Does Dr. Kao do silicone implant? I thought he only did gortex and cartilage.
Here is his reply to the e-mail I sent him.
Sorry to reply late!
May I have the ref photo you like?
From your photo, you have the upward rotated tip, overshow of the nostrils, a little lower bridge. I do not mean you need to add the height of the nasal bridge absolutely, you may just do the tip refinement, pull down the tip and hide the nostril a littl more, also increasing the tip height and lengthen the nose a little bit. If we do so, we can use the setpal cartilage to lengthen the nose and ear cartilge to refine the tip shape.
If you want to add the height of bridge, we can use the the ear cartilage (+2mm) or GoreTex (implantation), or rib cartilage (3-4 mm).
The cost depends the procedure and anesthesia, admission ..etc.
Roughly, 11-120000NTD for Rib, stay one night in hospital
70-75000 for ear cartilage grafting, and GoreTex implantation with possible ear cartilage, you may consider stay one night, too.
If you consider using the silicone, I would recommend you use the GoreTex and ear cartilage for the tip refinement, that can have the best result.
Stay in Taipei for 7 day at least is recommended.
Need to consultation one day before surgery.
Let's me know if you have any question.
Regards,
Dr kao
Did I misunderstand him? lol. Anyways, he seems very detail oriented in his reply.
Here is his reply to the e-mail I sent him.
Sorry to reply late!
May I have the ref photo you like?
From your photo, you have the upward rotated tip, overshow of the nostrils, a little lower bridge. I do not mean you need to add the height of the nasal bridge absolutely, you may just do the tip refinement, pull down the tip and hide the nostril a littl more, also increasing the tip height and lengthen the nose a little bit. If we do so, we can use the setpal cartilage to lengthen the nose and ear cartilge to refine the tip shape.
If you want to add the height of bridge, we can use the the ear cartilage (+2mm) or GoreTex (implantation), or rib cartilage (3-4 mm).
The cost depends the procedure and anesthesia, admission ..etc.
Roughly, 11-120000NTD for Rib, stay one night in hospital
70-75000 for ear cartilage grafting, and GoreTex implantation with possible ear cartilage, you may consider stay one night, too.
If you consider using the silicone, I would recommend you use the GoreTex and ear cartilage for the tip refinement, that can have the best result.
Stay in Taipei for 7 day at least is recommended.
Need to consultation one day before surgery.
Let's me know if you have any question.
Regards,
Dr kao
Did I misunderstand him? lol. Anyways, he seems very detail oriented in his reply.
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YOur nose is really really nice!!!Angeluv101 wrote:Hi all,
Sorry I shd post my photos here instead
Photos are from original nose, revision 1 and 2 with Dr Chuang, and latest revision with Dr Kao.
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... terab3.jpg
Congrats!
I'm changing my mind already.haha..
Anyway, if you dont mind, do post your pics when it's 6 months post op?
Thanks so much for sharing with us!

angeluv - your nose is very nice with dr kao. much nicer than dr chuang's work. thanks for sharing your pics. 
it appears you also had a upturn nose (before rhino) & it was fully corrected with rib rhino - is that right?
right now, there is this question that bugs me - after viewing DMN & angeluv's photos with rib rhino... I am wondering is it because they did revision twice/thrice thus their nose shape can attain perfection? (tanjhj said before it sometimes take more than 1 surgery to get the nose you want)
anyone here that went for rib rhino 1st time & can share their pics here with us? your feedback will really help clear up alot of the confusion.
Also, I got quotation from Dr Hsu & Dr Kao -
Dr Hsu charges NT100000 for rib.
Dr Kao charges USD4000 for rib & USD2500 for ear+goretex.
Dr Chuang charges NT60000 for silicon + the whole lot incl. alar, defatting, tiplasty.
One problem I'm encountering with these 2 docs (hsu & kao) - their command of english is not fantastic & I suspect they give very generic standard replies (to anyone that emails them). When it comes to communication, Dr Chuang gave me the most detailed replies which made me feel very comfortable with him as it appeared he totally understood what I am asking in my emails. Anyone here shares my same tots?
Can anyone tell me if these prices incl. anaesthetic, hospital stay? (angeluv? dmn?)
& does the prices from Dr Hsu & Dr Kao incl. alar, tiplasty etc? As the email replies from these 2 docs are really not concised abt what they plan to do for my nose.
Sorry for the lengthy post - I hope someone can offer me some advice here. TIA!

it appears you also had a upturn nose (before rhino) & it was fully corrected with rib rhino - is that right?
right now, there is this question that bugs me - after viewing DMN & angeluv's photos with rib rhino... I am wondering is it because they did revision twice/thrice thus their nose shape can attain perfection? (tanjhj said before it sometimes take more than 1 surgery to get the nose you want)
anyone here that went for rib rhino 1st time & can share their pics here with us? your feedback will really help clear up alot of the confusion.
Also, I got quotation from Dr Hsu & Dr Kao -
Dr Hsu charges NT100000 for rib.
Dr Kao charges USD4000 for rib & USD2500 for ear+goretex.
Dr Chuang charges NT60000 for silicon + the whole lot incl. alar, defatting, tiplasty.
One problem I'm encountering with these 2 docs (hsu & kao) - their command of english is not fantastic & I suspect they give very generic standard replies (to anyone that emails them). When it comes to communication, Dr Chuang gave me the most detailed replies which made me feel very comfortable with him as it appeared he totally understood what I am asking in my emails. Anyone here shares my same tots?
Can anyone tell me if these prices incl. anaesthetic, hospital stay? (angeluv? dmn?)
& does the prices from Dr Hsu & Dr Kao incl. alar, tiplasty etc? As the email replies from these 2 docs are really not concised abt what they plan to do for my nose.
Sorry for the lengthy post - I hope someone can offer me some advice here. TIA!

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i think he meant dun go for silicon? lol.. anyway when are u gonna do it?TreeHugger wrote:Does Dr. Kao do silicone implant? I thought he only did gortex and cartilage.
Here is his reply to the e-mail I sent him.
Sorry to reply late!
May I have the ref photo you like?
From your photo, you have the upward rotated tip, overshow of the nostrils, a little lower bridge. I do not mean you need to add the height of the nasal bridge absolutely, you may just do the tip refinement, pull down the tip and hide the nostril a littl more, also increasing the tip height and lengthen the nose a little bit. If we do so, we can use the setpal cartilage to lengthen the nose and ear cartilge to refine the tip shape.
If you want to add the height of bridge, we can use the the ear cartilage (+2mm) or GoreTex (implantation), or rib cartilage (3-4 mm).
The cost depends the procedure and anesthesia, admission ..etc.
Roughly, 11-120000NTD for Rib, stay one night in hospital
70-75000 for ear cartilage grafting, and GoreTex implantation with possible ear cartilage, you may consider stay one night, too.
If you consider using the silicone, I would recommend you use the GoreTex and ear cartilage for the tip refinement, that can have the best result.
Stay in Taipei for 7 day at least is recommended.
Need to consultation one day before surgery.
Let's me know if you have any question.
Regards,
Dr kao
Did I misunderstand him? lol. Anyways, he seems very detail oriented in his reply.
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I think he means, if you want to do silicone, it's good to use gortex and ear cartilage to refine the tip.girlnextdoor wrote:i think he meant dun go for silicon? lol.. anyway when are u gonna do it?TreeHugger wrote:Does Dr. Kao do silicone implant? I thought he only did gortex and cartilage.
Here is his reply to the e-mail I sent him.
Sorry to reply late!
May I have the ref photo you like?
From your photo, you have the upward rotated tip, overshow of the nostrils, a little lower bridge. I do not mean you need to add the height of the nasal bridge absolutely, you may just do the tip refinement, pull down the tip and hide the nostril a littl more, also increasing the tip height and lengthen the nose a little bit. If we do so, we can use the setpal cartilage to lengthen the nose and ear cartilge to refine the tip shape.
If you want to add the height of bridge, we can use the the ear cartilage (+2mm) or GoreTex (implantation), or rib cartilage (3-4 mm).
The cost depends the procedure and anesthesia, admission ..etc.
Roughly, 11-120000NTD for Rib, stay one night in hospital
70-75000 for ear cartilage grafting, and GoreTex implantation with possible ear cartilage, you may consider stay one night, too.
If you consider using the silicone, I would recommend you use the GoreTex and ear cartilage for the tip refinement, that can have the best result.
Stay in Taipei for 7 day at least is recommended.
Need to consultation one day before surgery.
Let's me know if you have any question.
Regards,
Dr kao
Did I misunderstand him? lol. Anyways, he seems very detail oriented in his reply.
So silicone for the bridge and gortex/ear cartilage for the tip. Can understand?
Bcos silicone has a chance of extrusion and the tip can look very pointy and too sharp which looks fake(over time when it shifts--i saw noses like that).
So some doctors will encourage refining the tip with ear cartilage/gortex and also to prevent extrusion since there's some support at the tip(to reduce the pressure).
Hey guys. This is my first time posting here but i did rhinoplasty last yr with Chuang and am going back for a revision in december because my tip is still round and i feel that my profile is still kind of short and odd looking. After reading this forum and gathering more info, i think i am going to go with Dr.Kao. He suggested that i do rib cartilage because silicon will make my bridge skin thinner over time and gortex might get wider over time also. He quote me around 110000-120000NT.
BTW-Angeluv, i am in love with your nose. I want to pm you or talk to you on email if possible. Can you pm me your email addy if possible. Thank you so much! My originial nose was very similar to yours!
Feline_eyes, thank you for putting together this comprehensive guide for all of us! How is your nose and eyes doing? Hope theyre looking fantastic!
BTW-Angeluv, i am in love with your nose. I want to pm you or talk to you on email if possible. Can you pm me your email addy if possible. Thank you so much! My originial nose was very similar to yours!
Feline_eyes, thank you for putting together this comprehensive guide for all of us! How is your nose and eyes doing? Hope theyre looking fantastic!
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Ahh, that's what I thought. But I also remember someone saying he doesn't do silicone, so I was a bit confused.dimensionspectrum wrote:I think he means, if you want to do silicone, it's good to use gortex and ear cartilage to refine the tip.girlnextdoor wrote:i think he meant dun go for silicon? lol.. anyway when are u gonna do it?TreeHugger wrote:Does Dr. Kao do silicone implant? I thought he only did gortex and cartilage.
Here is his reply to the e-mail I sent him.
Sorry to reply late!
May I have the ref photo you like?
From your photo, you have the upward rotated tip, overshow of the nostrils, a little lower bridge. I do not mean you need to add the height of the nasal bridge absolutely, you may just do the tip refinement, pull down the tip and hide the nostril a littl more, also increasing the tip height and lengthen the nose a little bit. If we do so, we can use the setpal cartilage to lengthen the nose and ear cartilge to refine the tip shape.
If you want to add the height of bridge, we can use the the ear cartilage (+2mm) or GoreTex (implantation), or rib cartilage (3-4 mm).
The cost depends the procedure and anesthesia, admission ..etc.
Roughly, 11-120000NTD for Rib, stay one night in hospital
70-75000 for ear cartilage grafting, and GoreTex implantation with possible ear cartilage, you may consider stay one night, too.
If you consider using the silicone, I would recommend you use the GoreTex and ear cartilage for the tip refinement, that can have the best result.
Stay in Taipei for 7 day at least is recommended.
Need to consultation one day before surgery.
Let's me know if you have any question.
Regards,
Dr kao
Did I misunderstand him? lol. Anyways, he seems very detail oriented in his reply.
So silicone for the bridge and gortex/ear cartilage for the tip. Can understand?
Bcos silicone has a chance of extrusion and the tip can look very pointy and too sharp which looks fake(over time when it shifts--i saw noses like that).
So some doctors will encourage refining the tip with ear cartilage/gortex and also to prevent extrusion since there's some support at the tip(to reduce the pressure).
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