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Postby babyangel11 » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 1:17 am

clairedoll wrote:hi all i am now 1 month post op with dr kao, taiwan. to recap, i went to him for revision after 2 weeks from first rhinoplasty with dr lee, vip of korea. i think my bridge did not go down much in one month. and most people say 1 month most of 80% swelling will go down. my nose is huge. i mean high n also long. dr kao kept telling me its the swelling, but i asked a few other doctors, including one in my country and he said its unlikely the bridge will go down. because there is 2-3mm augmentation. and it still feels hard.
to dr kao patients/rib patients....does your bridge go down substantially...and in how long?
cos at this rate, i think i want a revision to take out the brige and just keep the ear cartilage at the tip. cos the tip projection had improved and i like to keep that.


Hi clairdoll,

1 or 2 months is too little time for the swell of a rhinoplasty to go down. In fact, it takes approx. at least 6 months to see a clearer n more exact shape of your nose. Rhinoplasty takes a long time for swell to completely go off n sometimes even when you think that the swell has gone off, there is actually still some residue swelling.

So pls dont do further surgery to your nose further until it is at least 6 months post-op. As time goes by, you wud see that the shape of your nose keeps changing. Otherwise if you do another surgery without waiting for the swell to go off is actually bad for your nose. And FYI, scar tissue may also form.

Hope this helps. Cheers. :)

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Postby terrie35 » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 4:24 am

no1209 wrote:
multitess wrote:something doesn't make sense to me as I was researching hoping rhinoplasty veterans can help answering. Most of us are trying to get our tips smaller and more refine as they are bulbous before. why then the need of harvesting ear cartilage to the tip? wouldn't that make the tip even bigger than before because we're putting more cartilage there.
this link was posted a while back and it makes sense to me: http://www.rhinoplastyinbeverlyhills.co ... refinement
to suture the tip cartilage together rather than add more cartilage. please enlighten me :)


Watch this video on the page. I think it might help you understand. It helped me for sure.

http://www.charm3c.com.tw/cosmetic_surg ... d=6&sid=43


Hi 1209, the link seems impressive...so the doc is doing the rhino using closed method? I am interested...are you going to this doc? Can the doc speak English? Want to go together?

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Postby twig » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:30 pm

Anyone going to doctor Kao between the periods of mid aug- early sept?
Would like to buddy up and share lodging costs, shopping sprees, food adventures and pain :lol:

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Postby wanyun » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 9:31 pm

twig wrote:Anyone going to doctor Kao between the periods of mid aug- early sept?
Would like to buddy up and share lodging costs, shopping sprees, food adventures and pain <span><img><span>lol</span></span>


hi twig, sorry i do not have enough post count to pm.

he quoted me 60,000NTD just for tipplasty with ear cartilage.

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Postby flyawayfriday » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:14 pm

twig wrote:
flyawayfriday wrote:
multitess wrote:this is a reply to bclioness42 since I can't pm
This is what dr. Kao sent me:

The hospital will charge the rib cartilage rhinoplasty 140,000 NTD for primary surgery and 160,000NTD for revision because the revision surgery takes longer time, general anesthesia 4-6 hours and stay a night in the hospital.

The price for GoreTex implantation and ear cartilage grafting for the tip refinement is 85,000NTD under local anesthesia. Plus 10,000-20.000NTD for general anesthesia.

if you can pm me your email, we'll talk about the trip and plan it out together :)



how strange, he quoted me 160,000 NTD for a primary rib rhino but only 80,000 NTD for goretex + ear cartilage! i guess it depends on the difference between your original nose and expected nose too (for me...i have a really flat nose but i linked him a picture of a eurasian model haha :P)

i noticed that a lot of forummers have done rib cartilage with dr. kao, can anyone comment on his results with goretex + ear cartilage as well? :)

actually, this might be a bit off-topic, but i'm in a pretty big dilemma right now - i can't decide between doing the surgery at dr. kao's (the lack of reference due to most opting for rib implant is a factor) or doing an L-silicone implant with a local surgeon. while many, many people advise against an L-shape implant, i believe the natural structure of my nose might force me to opt for the latter instead.

extract from my post in another forum -

firstly, some background on my nose - it has an extremely flat bridge, limited septal cartilage, and most significantly, NO NOSE TIP BONE. as in, normally when you press your nose tip, even if it's flat, there'll be some cartilage to form said flat structure, like a building? mine's literally just a flap of skin, like a tent. i can squash it any way i want without pain or obstruction. i believe my cartilage ends in the middle of my nose? i'm not sure if this is termed "short nose" as i have friends with the typical looking "short nose" but they do have something hard in their tip of which i have none.

right now, my main concern is that i would not have enough ear cartilage to craft the nice, sharp tip i fancy, since i have absolutely nada nose tip bone to start with and i imagine i would have to use a whole load of ear cartilage to achieve the desired effect. on the other hand, i believe an L-shaped silicone implant would help me achieve my desired tip projection but i'm concerned about the usual problems associated with an L-implant (extrusion, warping etc.

i would really appreciate it if someone could advise me on this! thanks a lot :)



Dr Kao quoted me ***,000 NTD. I'm not sure it's just for rib rhino or with paranasal augmentation. I'll have to check with him again. But still pretty expensive. Anyone tried asking for discounts? Would that be rude? :oops:


i think if you do more than 1 procedure or more than 1 person goes then it's easier to "bargain" for discounts else it's probably a no-go :(

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Postby flyawayfriday » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:18 pm

no1209 wrote:have been receiving messages about my quote from dr. kao.

i am pretty sure that dr. kao doesn't quote only depending on different procedures. he also determines his charge on your "before" nose compared to your anticipated result too. keep that in mind. if you have a nose with completely no bridge, and want to have the height of a certain celebrity's nose, of coz he has to charge more. he has to spend more time to create that.


haha i totally agree! my nose is insanely flat and i sent him some pictures of an eurasian celebrity for reference so i think it makes sense that i was quoted 160,000 ntd

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Postby flyawayfriday » Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:34 pm

on a side note, does anyone know how good dr kao's goretex rhinoplasties are?

i'm seriously leaning towards goretex atm but most of the cases talked about here are rib implants. there seems to be only 1 person who did goretex with him this whole thread so if anyone has any input, i'll be really grateful! :)

also, does anyone else get the feeling that dr kao's emails are very rushed...i sent him a pretty long email in traditional chinese detailing my concerns and attached my photos. from what i read in the forums i was expecting an attentive and detailed reply and possibly even a b&a simulation. but his reply was less than two lines :( i thought he was busy that day but subsequent emails were just as short and rushed. what's more he takes many days to reply 1-2 lines.

i'm really worried that he has taken a special dislike to me or something D: since this is really, really incongruous to how other forummers say his replies are. or is he colder and more brusque in his emails and warmer irl? my mum figures that maybe he is no longer replying his own emails and an assistant is helping out which explains the totally different attitude. but he sent some emails from his iphone so i believe it's really dr kao himself?

argh...i hope someone can give me some advice! :( to those forummers who have emailed him recently, does he sound really rushed too? i would still really like to have my surgery done with him but i'm increasingly considering korea given his the somewhat "heck-care" impression i get from his emails :(((

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Postby nosecraze » Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:10 pm

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Postby clairedoll » Tue, 19 Jun 2012 4:45 pm

Hi on the issue of rib vs goretex, i am his rib revision patient and if i can choose over the original implant again, i would personally go for goretex. I feel that rib is still too hard and feels stiff, although it is autologous.

Another thing, on his responsiveness....yea he is like that. That's just him. I email him from time to time and his answers are short too, so i started to keep my questions short too and just go straight to the point. Its not just you dont worry.

flyawayfriday wrote:on a side note, does anyone know how good dr kao's goretex rhinoplasties are?

i'm seriously leaning towards goretex atm but most of the cases talked about here are rib implants. there seems to be only 1 person who did goretex with him this whole thread so if anyone has any input, i'll be really grateful! :)

also, does anyone else get the feeling that dr kao's emails are very rushed...i sent him a pretty long email in traditional chinese detailing my concerns and attached my photos. from what i read in the forums i was expecting an attentive and detailed reply and possibly even a b&a simulation. but his reply was less than two lines :( i thought he was busy that day but subsequent emails were just as short and rushed. what's more he takes many days to reply 1-2 lines.

i'm really worried that he has taken a special dislike to me or something D: since this is really, really incongruous to how other forummers say his replies are. or is he colder and more brusque in his emails and warmer irl? my mum figures that maybe he is no longer replying his own emails and an assistant is helping out which explains the totally different attitude. but he sent some emails from his iphone so i believe it's really dr kao himself?

argh...i hope someone can give me some advice! :( to those forummers who have emailed him recently, does he sound really rushed too? i would still really like to have my surgery done with him but i'm increasingly considering korea given his the somewhat "heck-care" impression i get from his emails :(((

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Postby clairedoll » Tue, 19 Jun 2012 5:02 pm

Hi babyangel
If i am to go back for the revision, i plan to just take out the bridge. I just dont think the additional height is of any purpose for me. I have received a handful of comments saying that i look older than my actual age now after the nosejob:-( whereas before the nosejob, its always 'Are u still in high school?' And now its just past 2 months post op, but already upon close look, the bridge at the top has warped. Theres a little bump there. And im super impatient type...so i would do myself a huge favor by just take it out so i wont be obsessed with the nose everyday. Lol.
Actually i have booked the date with dr kao, just that im not sure if i should check out some other doctors. But dont get me wrong, i think the nose itself is a nice work, i just want a more familiar version of myself... I think my tip is really nice now, its an improvement definitely,....what bugs me is the taller bridge, which sometimes on sideviews, still looks 'off'.


babyangel11 wrote:
clairedoll wrote:hi all i am now 1 month post op with dr kao, taiwan. to recap, i went to him for revision after 2 weeks from first rhinoplasty with dr lee, vip of korea. i think my bridge did not go down much in one month. and most people say 1 month most of 80% swelling will go down. my nose is huge. i mean high n also long. dr kao kept telling me its the swelling, but i asked a few other doctors, including one in my country and he said its unlikely the bridge will go down. because there is 2-3mm augmentation. and it still feels hard.
to dr kao patients/rib patients....does your bridge go down substantially...and in how long?
cos at this rate, i think i want a revision to take out the brige and just keep the ear cartilage at the tip. cos the tip projection had improved and i like to keep that.


Hi clairdoll,

1 or 2 months is too little time for the swell of a rhinoplasty to go down. In fact, it takes approx. at least 6 months to see a clearer n more exact shape of your nose. Rhinoplasty takes a long time for swell to completely go off n sometimes even when you think that the swell has gone off, there is actually still some residue swelling.

So pls dont do further surgery to your nose further until it is at least 6 months post-op. As time goes by, you wud see that the shape of your nose keeps changing. Otherwise if you do another surgery without waiting for the swell to go off is actually bad for your nose. And FYI, scar tissue may also form.

Hope this helps. Cheers. :)

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Postby twig » Tue, 19 Jun 2012 7:14 pm

Due to work and personal issues im planning to move up my surgery to the 19th of July. But doc kao says he will be traveling to USA at the end of July and could not follow me. Which means I think his saying he will not be around to get the sitches off me.

I remember some one mentioning he/she didnt have too long a time to stay in Taiwan so has taken stitches off in singapore instead. Can't remember they were paitents of dr kao or hsu. but could I have some feedback on this?

thanks in advance :)

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Postby nosecraze » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 2:04 pm

clairedoll wrote:Hi babyangel
If i am to go back for the revision, i plan to just take out the bridge. I just dont think the additional height is of any purpose for me. I have received a handful of comments saying that i look older than my actual age now after the nosejob:-( whereas before the nosejob, its always 'Are u still in high school?' And now its just past 2 months post op, but already upon close look, the bridge at the top has warped. Theres a little bump there. And im super impatient type...so i would do myself a huge favor by just take it out so i wont be obsessed with the nose everyday. Lol.
Actually i have booked the date with dr kao, just that im not sure if i should check out some other doctors. But dont get me wrong, i think the nose itself is a nice work, i just want a more familiar version of myself... I think my tip is really nice now, its an improvement definitely,....what bugs me is the taller bridge, which sometimes on sideviews, still looks 'off'.


babyangel11 wrote:
clairedoll wrote:hi all i am now 1 month post op with dr kao, taiwan. to recap, i went to him for revision after 2 weeks from first rhinoplasty with dr lee, vip of korea. i think my bridge did not go down much in one month. and most people say 1 month most of 80% swelling will go down. my nose is huge. i mean high n also long. dr kao kept telling me its the swelling, but i asked a few other doctors, including one in my country and he said its unlikely the bridge will go down. because there is 2-3mm augmentation. and it still feels hard.
to dr kao patients/rib patients....does your bridge go down substantially...and in how long?
cos at this rate, i think i want a revision to take out the brige and just keep the ear cartilage at the tip. cos the tip projection had improved and i like to keep that.


Hi clairdoll,

1 or 2 months is too little time for the swell of a rhinoplasty to go down. In fact, it takes approx. at least 6 months to see a clearer n more exact shape of your nose. Rhinoplasty takes a long time for swell to completely go off n sometimes even when you think that the swell has gone off, there is actually still some residue swelling.

So pls dont do further surgery to your nose further until it is at least 6 months post-op. As time goes by, you wud see that the shape of your nose keeps changing. Otherwise if you do another surgery without waiting for the swell to go off is actually bad for your nose. And FYI, scar tissue may also form.

Hope this helps. Cheers. :)


Hey babe, I think u shld decide again after giving it 1 year's time as there is still microswelling. My nose went down and shrunk even more after 1yr+ almost 2 years post op. And now I miss the slightly more augmented bridge that I initially had.

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Postby twig » Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:40 pm

My surgery's booked!

I just want to ask about accommodations. Hope Dr Kao patients could help answer them.

I will be there for 15 days. Basic itinerary so far is:

first 4 days sight see >> operation and rest for 4 days >>resume sightseeing for next 7 days

I can either stay at Kangning apts for the whole trip

or only stay for 4 days (of op and rest) and move to and frohotels.


It's my first time to taiwan. So i'm not sure where is where.

Is Kang ning far way/convient from all the touristy attractions for shopping and food? Or would it be advisable to move hotels?

TIA

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Postby no1209 » Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:52 am

terrie35 wrote:
no1209 wrote:
multitess wrote:something doesn't make sense to me as I was researching hoping rhinoplasty veterans can help answering. Most of us are trying to get our tips smaller and more refine as they are bulbous before. why then the need of harvesting ear cartilage to the tip? wouldn't that make the tip even bigger than before because we're putting more cartilage there.
this link was posted a while back and it makes sense to me: http://www.rhinoplastyinbeverlyhills.co ... refinement
to suture the tip cartilage together rather than add more cartilage. please enlighten me :)


Watch this video on the page. I think it might help you understand. It helped me for sure.

http://www.charm3c.com.tw/cosmetic_surg ... d=6&sid=43


Hi 1209, the link seems impressive...so the doc is doing the rhino using closed method? I am interested...are you going to this doc? Can the doc speak English? Want to go together?


nah, i don't like the idea of any synthetic material in my nose. i am going to dr kao for rib rhino in 5 days!

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Postby no1209 » Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:53 am

twig wrote:My surgery's booked!

I just want to ask about accommodations. Hope Dr Kao patients could help answer them.

I will be there for 15 days. Basic itinerary so far is:

first 4 days sight see >> operation and rest for 4 days >>resume sightseeing for next 7 days

I can either stay at Kangning apts for the whole trip

or only stay for 4 days (of op and rest) and move to and frohotels.


It's my first time to taiwan. So i'm not sure where is where.

Is Kang ning far way/convient from all the touristy attractions for shopping and food? Or would it be advisable to move hotels?

TIA


dear, when are you going?

edit//: sorry, just saw your previous message. too bad we can't go together! i will be there in 5 days~


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