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Postby Zaphiree » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 9:50 pm

Forgot to ask. I remember reading Millicious's experience by Dr Kao but don't know if in the end she was satisfied with the results or not.
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Postby rhinoguy » Wed, 17 Aug 2011 4:38 pm

trilogytwist wrote:Hi,i email to Dr Kao and he suggested a tip refinement for me. Heard this procedure is quite major and requires a very skillful doctor to complete it.
He suggested the tip surgery using ear cartilage ....

but how come some of you are using rib cartilage?


rib cartilage is if you want your bridge heightened. for tip work, ear cartilage is more suitable.

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Postby strawberryeviljam » Wed, 17 Aug 2011 6:17 pm

my 2 friends went to mr chuang for open eyes n double eye lid surgery and their eyes looks really nice and big. is it that bad? oh no.. i'm worried now..

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Re: Report on revision with Dr. Hsu

Postby shinangel » Mon, 22 Aug 2011 1:57 am

Atlantis wrote:
shinangel wrote:As some of you know, I was to have revision rhino under dr. Hsu on 28th December. After rescheduling my flight for professional reasons, a flight cancelled due to heavy snowfall and a second rescheduling of my flight, a train cancelled, an unforeseen 2 day stay in HK due to my sisters passport issues, a third rescheduling of my flight, I finally arrived in KHH, a.k.a. Kaohsiung. Yep, nothing could have stopped me from my revision this time.

Because of all the bad luck that had been pursuing me lately, I was a bit scared of the outcome. The short and the long of this story is that the revision turned out to be a great success. I can finally look at myself in the mirror and recognize my Oriental roots and some of the good old facial features which are characteristic of our family. Praise the Lord!

Dr. Hsu is an extremely kind surgeon, very caring and honest as well, oh and last but not least, of course: skilled. Despite my failing to arrive on the scheduled day and after several phone calls, he managed to squeeze me in his agenda, i.e. on 31th December. There are admittedly better dates to undergo surgery, but I really had no choice. Any other person, or at least I, would just have told me to f*ck off for rescheduling that often.
Dr. Hsu spent about 1h on the face-to-face consultation. We were pretty much on the same wavelength, as we had already thoroughly discussed my concerns through e-mail and I immediately liked the frontal profile simulation which he had previously sent to me.

Summary of what had to be corrected:
- removal of goretex graft which was too long (caused my supra-tip break to disappear), too thick and which had shifted on top of that
- removal of stitches which had made my tip and nostrils look pinched
- removal of spreader graft that mad my tip overly sharp, over-projected and hard as wood
- correcting uneven nostrils

If you intend to go for rib graft, I strongly suggest you take somebody along, because post-surgery can be bloody hardcore. As soon as I woke up, I had one of the worst nauseas that I had ever experienced. So I puked twice – mainly blood that I swallowed during surgery - while still lying on the transfer bed which I was laid on right after surgery. Mind you that I would not have found vomiting disturbing if it did not hurt my costal wound that much each time that I had to throw up. Because of the nausea, I had no appetite whatsoever and could not eat, which was rather annoying because I was supposed to take in meds with some solid food so as to avoid ulcers. Fortunately, my neighbor bought some energy jelly drinks which she was as kind as to share with me, realizing that I would never make it if I was unable to charge my batteries. So bear in mind that a stock of jelly drinks would do the trick when feeling too sick to eat.

Also note that the nurses barely speak English. I was lucky that the girl who had shared the hospital room with me had a fair command of English and was able to translate for me. Nurses and doctors would also walk in every now and then to check my post-op state, which bothered me tremendously because I only wanted to be left alone to sleep for the next 3 days. I was asked several times to pee, but felt so dizzy and just incapable of standing up, let alone going to the closet for a pee. Nurses would frequently inject something in my forearm, which was extremely painful. My neighbor could not help moaning whenever she got the injection.

Dr. Hsu visited me in the evening following surgery and the next day before dismissal as well. I was allowed to leave hospital around 4pm, after the last injection. Since I was sick as a dog, he told me that I could stay a bit longer, till 7-8pm–ish, if necessary. He removed the packing from my left nostril and would remove the one from my right-hand side only a couple of days later (do not ask why he proceeded like that, I have no idea).

I went to Dr. Hsu s clinic 4 times: first time for a face-to-face consultation, the second one in order to have the rest of my packing removed and blood clots and snot sucked up by a fantastic vacuum cleaner for nostrils. I also got the gauze on my chest wound replaced by a new one. Because I always asked whether I could take showers, Dr. Hsu applied a piece of water-repellent tape over the gauze on my chest wound. The third time I went for the removal of cast and part of the stitches, and the renewal of the gauze on my chest as well. The last time I saw him, he would cut the left-over stitches and vacuum out my nostrils again (definitely something to experience, the device is just awesome, I wish I had the same at home to get rid of stuffed-up nose). He replaced the water-repellent tape from my chest with a non-repellent one, explaining that showering could do no harm anymore. He furthermore gave an extra stock of pills for the 5 next days and some more ointment.

A few days after surgery, Dr. Hsu expressed his concern about my uneven nostrils. He said that he had done his utmost best to make them more symmetrical without cutting more tissue off (as I told him I did not want any more nostril skin to be removed), but he feared that the result might not be satisfactory. So he kindly proposed to cut the larger nostril on Friday (day prior to departure) after removal of the cast, so I wished. Recalling all the trouble that surgery had entailed so far, I replied that, if it was necessary, I would rather have it done next time that I would travel to Taiwan again.

I do not know if the Arnica Montana, which I had started taking about one month prior to surgery, helped, but I had no bruising this time. Although I am still slightly swollen, most people would not notice. Swelling was at its worst up till 4 days after surgery. Nose would bleed till 3rd day following surgery, however decreasingly. After that, only very minimal bleeding would occur, basically every time that I would stick a swab in my nostrils in order to clean them out and after removal of stitches. Chest wound hurts most. Every sneeze, cough, single movement affects the rib area. The pain is not really unbearable, but there is definitely no way of moving freely without feeling the wound. I hope this does not scare off the ones who intend to go for rib surgery, though. It should rather be called a slightly uncomfortable sensation than heavy pain.

I have not taken any pics yet, but will not fail to do so and upload them very soon. If you have questions, feel free to ask. Phew, sorry for the long post.


Hello Shinangel - it is now June, and I am wondering how your rib revision rhino is looking and feeling at this moment. Are you happy with it? How much do you feel has resorbed? Does it look and feel natural at this time? Any opinion on this would be great. Also why did you pick Dr. Hsu over Dr. Kao? From all the readings it would seem like Dr. Kao was better with using the rib, and Dr. Hsu was great with the ear cartilage for rhino. Just my own feeling so far.


Hi Atlantis,

On a scale of 100, I would give dr. Hsu's revision a 75. Let me explain:

My nose has resorbed significantly, much to my disappointment. Upon removal of the cast, the tip was swollen, but it had that slightly bulbous aspect which made me look cute and childish prior to primary rhino. Now that the swelling has resorbed, I lost that childish face.

The other thing that bothers me a lot, is that the goretex implant, which I have had removed by dr. Hsu, has left quite visible marks: my radix is still too high, i.e. above pupil level, bridge and tip are still off-centered, supratip break is still not visible. It is as if my own (scar?) tissue has taken the shape of the goretex implant, albeit in a less sharp way. Furthermore, my nostrils are still asymmetric (but that is something about which dr. Hsu already had expressed his concerns).

Dr. Hsu kept telling me that the shape left by the goretex implant would resorb after +/- 1 year. However, when I touch my nose where the implant had been grafted, it feels as if the goretex is still in there, although it has been removed. :?

All in all, there is a huge improvement compared to what I had ended up with after my primary rhino. Take the tip for instance: it has softened (but is of course harder than my original tip). It is just that I am not 100% satisfied.

I chose dr. Hsu because I like the noses done by dr. Hsu better. I was not very much impressed by Dr. Kao's portfolio, even though I had read many good reviews about him.

If I have to be honest, I do not think that I would get back to Dr. Hsu to address all the above mentioned issues, because I somehow feel that he would not be able to do any better, taking into consideration his opinion on the outcome to be expected and the outcome as is.

Maybe I should have gone for a Korean surgeon. I am currently thinking of dr. Lee from Vip Clinic to take my revision to the next level, but still need to read some more reviews before being able to make up my mind. Cuz there is another factor I surely cannot disregard: money!

I will make sure to post my pics sometime in September. So keep an eye on this thread!

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Re: rhinoplasty revision with dr. kao

Postby shinangel » Mon, 22 Aug 2011 2:13 am

absolutnose wrote:background: i'm a 28yo asian male.

i got a revision with goretex from dr. langsuan in the philippines (it was recommended by an acquaintance due to low cost). dr. langsuan (an understudy of dr. jung in korea) performed an alar reduction/rotation in the attempts to lessen the appearance of the nostrils, rebuild the bridge with goretex and used both sepal and ear cartilage for the tip. he also recommended that i get a chin implant to balance it all out. upon removing the cast, i thought the bridge was too high and slightly off centered, the tip was not long and protruding enuff and even the silicon chin implant was somewhat shifted to the right. but the dr. said that that wasn't the case and that it was balance itself out when swelling subsided. i have him the benefit of the doubt. my nose overall was looking ok for about 6 months or so but then when all the swelling had gone down, the goretex implant became very apparent and my nose looked completely artificial. it looked like a bad nose job nose and the chin was just pointy and crooked. again, i would never recommend dr. langsuan even though I have to give his nurses probs bc they are all lovely.

so after about 1.5 years of that horrible fake looking nose, i finally decided to get a rib graft revision with dr. kao.

week 2: my nose looks pretty decent although the area bt my eyes is still pretty swollen making the bridge look super high. the tip however is pretty nice. i just hope that it doesn't look too sharp or unnatural once most of the swelling subsides. my face is still pretty much numb will minimal pain in my nose. my rib area is still quite uncomfortable.

i'll be sure to update everyone on the healing progress within the upcoming weeks. sorry for the long post. hope it was somewhat insightful. all the best!


Heya! It seems that you have been scammed big time by Dr. Lansangan (just like many others, including me) :(

I had a nose job done by Lansangan about 3 years ago, and the :mad: had screwed my nose badly. After that, I got revision by dr. Hsu, but the goretex implant, which I have had removed by dr. Hsu, has left quite visible marks: my radix is still too high, i.e. above pupil level, bridge and tip are still off-centered, supratip break is still not visible. It is as if my own (scar?) tissue has taken the shape of the goretex implant, albeit in a less sharp way. Furthermore, my nostrils are still asymmetric (but that is something about which dr. Hsu already had expressed his concerns). Dr. Hsu kept telling me that the shape left by the goretex implant would resorb after +/- 1 year. However, when I touch my nose where the implant had been grafted, it feels as if the goretex is still in there, although it has been removed.

What about your revision? Can you see any marks left by the goretex? Did dr. Kao remove any scar tissue or the like in order to prevent marks showing?

If anybody else is dealing with the same issue as mine, please let me know.

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Vade retro, Lansangan

Postby shinangel » Mon, 22 Aug 2011 2:24 am

Absolutnose s bad experience reminds me that I must recall my warnings against dr. Lansangan: GUYS, GALS, DO NOT, IN ANY ANY CASE, GO TO DR. LANSANGAN, FOR GOD S AND YOUR OWN SAKE!

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Postby daybreakk » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 8:33 am

hey guys and girls, sorry to ask this, i know i seen this post somewhere but i cant remember which page, its about eye lash using our own hair folicle and double eyelid surgery, can i just check is it Dr Su that provide these 2 procedures ?

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Postby cseet » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:36 pm

What's a radix?????

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Postby Zaphiree » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 8:26 pm

What kind of supplements do you guys and gals get to cosmetic surgery??
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Postby jamie82 » Sun, 04 Sep 2011 2:12 pm

Hi all, I went to Dr. Kao circa 2010 jan and thought I'd give an update.

The results were mostly good, however I'm unsatisfied with the tip I guess, which seems to make me look less chinese for some reason and I sometimes think its a little too masculine looking? (make me look fierce -.-).

I did however show him pictures of michelle reis who looks a little mixed so he might have given me what i wanted.

He has promised to fix it for free but am still contemplating mostly due to downtime and taking time off from work.

Having gone thru the whole thing, I think rib might not be really essential unless you're going for a really big change, ear cartilage / gore tex would suffice in most cases.

This is a recent photo you can see the results will take it down soon since I'm shy. Hope this helps a lil. I used this one from a club hence bad quality, since its more random, its really hard to tell when i take the standard views and use it for comparison since it seems to look OK but I usually get dissatisfied from random pictures with friends.
*snip*

God k I actually think i look like andy lau here :(
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Postby Zaphiree » Sun, 04 Sep 2011 7:52 pm

jamie82 wrote:Hi all, I went to Dr. Kao circa 2010 jan and thought I'd give an update.

The results were mostly good, however I'm unsatisfied with the tip I guess, which seems to make me look less chinese for some reason and I sometimes think its a little too masculine looking? (make me look fierce -.-).

I did however show him pictures of michelle reis who looks a little mixed so he might have given me what i wanted.

He has promised to fix it for free but am still contemplating mostly due to downtime and taking time off from work.

Having gone thru the whole thing, I think rib might not be really essential unless you're going for a really big change, ear cartilage / gore tex would suffice in most cases.

This is a recent photo you can see the results will take it down soon since I'm shy. Hope this helps a lil. I used this one from a club hence bad quality, since its more random, its really hard to tell when i take the standard views and use it for comparison since it seems to look OK but I usually get dissatisfied from random pictures with friends.


God k I actually think i look like andy lau here :(


Thanks so much for posting your picture Jamie! I do see a bit of a resemblance to michelle reis's nose. I'm heading to Dr K myself. I know you don't sound satisfied with the results, so this might be really silly for me to ask, but would you advise someone to head to him?
I'm getting shakey legs but heard a lot of reassuring things about him.

I think it's great that's he's offered to fix it free, and think if you're truly unhappy and comfortable with him go for it. If not head to someone else that you're certain can give you what you want.
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Postby jamie82 » Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:09 am

Zaphiree wrote:
jamie82 wrote:Hi all, I went to Dr. Kao circa 2010 jan and thought I'd give an update.

The results were mostly good, however I'm unsatisfied with the tip I guess, which seems to make me look less chinese for some reason and I sometimes think its a little too masculine looking? (make me look fierce -.-).

I did however show him pictures of michelle reis who looks a little mixed so he might have given me what i wanted.

He has promised to fix it for free but am still contemplating mostly due to downtime and taking time off from work.

Having gone thru the whole thing, I think rib might not be really essential unless you're going for a really big change, ear cartilage / gore tex would suffice in most cases.

This is a recent photo you can see the results will take it down soon since I'm shy. Hope this helps a lil. I used this one from a club hence bad quality, since its more random, its really hard to tell when i take the standard views and use it for comparison since it seems to look OK but I usually get dissatisfied from random pictures with friends.

God k I actually think i look like andy lau here :(


Thanks so much for posting your picture Jamie! I do see a bit of a resemblance to michelle reis's nose. I'm heading to Dr K myself very shortly. I know you don't sound satisfied with the results, so this might be really silly for me to ask, but would you advise someone to head to him for tiplasty?
I'm getting shakey legs but heard a lot of reassuring things about him.

I think it's great that's he's offered to fix it free, and think if you're truly unhappy and comfortable with him go for it. If not head to someone else that you're certain can give you what you want.

That said, after all my research I concluded that it was Dr K for me. But like I say shakey legs... haha.
Sorry, quite a rant.


Hi, is it possible to remove my picture link from your quote?

Don't worry about dr. K, he has great bedside manner and is very comfy to work with. The tiplasty thing in all honesty is touch and go and depends alot on your body physiology - esp the formation of scar tissue.

If you're prone to keloids or scarring make sure to highlight to him. Even the best surgeons cannot prevent that, he promised to remove the excess scar tissue for me. I think its my lifestyle which marred the healing process ee.g. clubbing, drinking , smoking... so its much better if you're going for surgery healthy :)

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Postby tinanana » Wed, 07 Sep 2011 9:46 am

its been 1yr + 3months post op!
my nose is kinda natural looking from the front ...not flat though.. and in some angle... kinda pointy but not too pointy lol...
juz find it hard to deal with my blackheads... need to be gentle to the nose
-_____- ... had a massive big pimple like 1-2 months ago.. still got that reddish /purple make on the nose ...side of the nose... dun think it is due to the rhinoplasty though.....bcoz i juz had a similar pimple near my eye LOL........ -_____-
and my sliding genioplasty... the chin area is not 100% recovered from the numbness but around 80% back to normal
got all these works done by dr kao

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Postby Zaphiree » Sun, 11 Sep 2011 5:04 pm

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Postby caitlinlim » Sun, 11 Sep 2011 6:58 pm

has anybody done breast argumentation with any doctor?
anyone to recommend?


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