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Postby ranconan » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 6:48 pm

Hi Jamie, is your nose still really swollen at the tip? =( i feel so depressed whenever i look into the mirror with a hugeeee tip staring back at me.. =[

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Postby cersepn » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 8:09 pm

takuda wrote:hi, i cannot be 101% sure about this as i haven't done it myself. but i rmber reading somewhere that intr-oral incisions are more prone to infections due to the food we eat that might not be cleaned throroughly etc?

Nope. The inside of the mouth has excellent healing powers.

Anyway, if the food's 'dirty' as you said, then everyone should not be able to eat anything after wisdom tooth/normal teeth extraction since there are huge HOLES in the gums.

Loukoum: lol, you have all that eye make up on, obviously not counted, even if you don't have contacts/had surgery done 8-)
Anyway, i'm quite sure you won't look eurasian after surgery.

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Postby Mintan » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 9:11 pm

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Postby Mintan » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 9:34 pm

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Postby boii18 » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:31 pm

As I have said that I find any argument senseless, I shall not continue, but here is some food for thought. A question before going further, "As a medical student and future doctor, would I be granted immediate respect?"

Society seems to have an impression, since the older days, that doctors "know best" and that they are respectable people. I thought that this sentiment is already gone by now, nonetheless it is still prevalent. Call it blind faith, like blind faith in religions.

Many people here it seems, feel that they are morally upright, un-faultable and that this is a very respectable profession. While many of them, or maybe even most of them, are people with a moral compass, I believe that there are definitely a few scapegoats out there who spoil the name of the medical community. I think one should not so readily provide a doctor with respect. I think the recent spate of medical negligence cases, as well as the recent appeal by MP to publicise medical board trial findings of negligent doctors, and the corresponding public outcry, should be ample evidence. Add on to my anecdotal evidence where I have known of some arrogant and lazy doctors who have failed my friend's parents ( leading to death of a 17 year old ), and I think this is enough to justify my statement. Not to add my camp medical officer "disappearing" when he is most needed. This has led me to feel that not all doctors are as good or respectable as we feel they should be.

Today's papers had an article on Ugly singaporeans, who cast negative remarks about people who have nothing against them. I whole-heartedly agree that there are many people who fit the writer's description. Dr lee recently also spoke in the Straits Times, last month, about the narcissism epidemic, being fueled by social media, and its symptoms being as pervasive and detectable as everyday observations. I would have to agree with her viewpoint too.

Being an active volunteer who helps the underprivileged, aged and dying sick on a frequent basis, I have written an article about my thoughts on long-term volunteerism as a cure for this epidemic that Dr lee so aptly and, in such a timely fashion, brought up. It contains my volunteering experiences at a place where nobody would want to be, as saddening as it is..

I hope that if this article is published, perhaps the world can heal itself and become a better place.

As a future doctor, I don't expect others to respect me, or my peers. Respect has to be earned. And I will be a good doctor who abides by the values of genuineness, respect, empathy and warmth - these are the very guiding principles of counseling.

Doctors are humans too, we make mistakes. But it is certainly incorrect to ignore the patient. Recently the papers talked about doctors nowadays doing a lot of public relations work, rather than just adopt a "doctor knows best attitude" because of a more educated public. I advocate such a stand. To ignore a patient completely , is absurd and appalling medical practice. Even the advance medical directive, if signed, removes the doctor of the powers to perform extraordinary resuscitation attempts to try to prolong a pt's life.

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Postby boii18 » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:40 pm

I am not angry, neither am I depressed. I just felt ( note, past tense ) angry when I read the reply from the doctor, which was when I wrote the article. I apologise for the outburst of emotions, which i feel silly when I re-read the post. I should have taken a more neutral stand.

But how neutral can it be, given that injustice ( gross injustice ) was done to you? Nonetheless, even though gross injustice was done to me, life moves on. Having been a volunteer at many places, I have come to realize that life is temporal in nature. We might all die the next day, why be so upset over something? Lets rejoice in the moment, and hope the best for tomorrow.

Anyway, I shall not read the PM sent to me by that caustic lady. It will just waste my time. I have deleted it and I hope she can stop further communications with me.

As a medical student, I am again taken aback by gross incompetence in the medical line, and as such I posted such comments. I take them back, but I stick to my stand that, respect for doctors has to be earned.

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Postby Loukoum » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 4:18 am

ranconan wrote:
Loukoum wrote:
Blissful09 wrote:welll it wasnt like i emailed him everyday, when i found certain pictures i would ask him if my nose can be like that and send him a photo of myself and so forth... basically i had my heart set on dr hsu. cuz i think switching back and forth is not good. (remember i was decided dr hsu and dr kao) ENT specialist was a must for me... and they both wore. Basically i would go to his website and look over and over and over again for both doctors at there work.

My suggestion is... make sure you know what your talking about and know what u want....
my mistake was when i told him i wanted a straight side profile view... instead of curving up (cuz i thought i might look like a pig) i kept my answer firm.. and end up regretting it.. cuz looking at a lot of celebs photo the curving up is cute. (but ppl say curving up was the sign of a fake nose..)


cersepn wrote:The most important thing is to make sure you have a perfectly clear idea of what nose you want, and be 100% specific when discussing with the surgeon. Don't ever use ambiguous words like "just a bit sharper, a bit higher". They can mean different things to different people.

Seems like a common sense thing to do, but a lot of people don't have a clear idea of what they want, and expect the surgeon to have psychic powers to envision what the patient's ideal nose is.

If possible, PRINT out quality pics. Don't just rely on the puny handphone screen and expect the surgeon to make out what the nose looks like. Best if you can print out your own profile, 3/4 pics too, so the surgeon can draw on your photo to illustrate what he's gonna do even better.


Thank you ! For now I know exactely what I want ^^

And thanks you too Blissfull ^^ Well well welll ... just can't wait . Hope for you that the result will fit you and makes you even more beautiful than before =D ( My perfect nose I wish for is exactly Angela Baby's =D ) Can you tell me, how many times did your nose stop to look like a bird as you said ( or too long ) ?

And well, since I send an email to Dr Kao, no reply for the moment ^^'..

About my nose, I'm just scared a little bit about one thing .. ( there is of course the part that if it doesen't fit you..) but I'm scared to look like too much eurasian. Because My eyes ( I really love them) are pretty big and round =3 But perhaps with a higher nose, I will look like eurasian ( hope that it will be not too much) But I think that if the result is good, I will not regret it =)

Here's my eyes ;), if you have any opinion about it =) ( no CL and surgery on it =) )

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i love your eyes! big and sparkling! *envy* hehe. maybe go for a nose bridge dat begins from the middle of the eyes instead? =) that way you wldnt look too eurasian.


Thanks for the compliment ^^

But for the advice, is it not the contrary ? a bridge which begins from the middle of the eyes isn't more eurasian , is it ? if you have a picture cause I think I don't really get wactha mean ^^'

And, yes, I know that boii18 said that Dr Chuang is .. a butcher, but I would like to know what do you think about his work with nose job ? hmmm, well I just ask huh.
For the moment, I just think about Dr Hsu, and dr Kao ( who hasen't reply to me yet ^^' )
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Postby Blissful09 » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 5:15 am

OHH mintian you look 100% natural!!! You look full asian
well most plastic surgery in taiwan come out looking natural i think!
Oh have u seen the actual body of xuesha though? the bored in bikinis???
there is one with her a sonia and a lot of ppl were critiizing on her bom and thighs and when she sit she has that line on her tummy for being not tone and firm.. but giggley? they were quite harsh on her.
So u DO want to look eurasian? ohhh i thought u wanted to not look eurasian. But you look natural the way u look now, i wouldnt change anything. But anyways xuesha has a healthy body i think, shes on the small chubby side. And isnt super skinny so i guess thats good

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Postby Eden86 » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 5:21 am

not enough men are writing on here, looks like im the only one.
we need more ppl back on here who did chin implants, reading back there were a few, i guess they stop using this.
loukoum dont change a THING, those are cute eyes!!!!! pls dont change it otherwise u wont have those cute anime asian eyes
trust me, in a guy's opinion, i think its really adorable!!

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Postby Loukoum » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 6:00 am

Eden86 wrote:not enough men are writing on here, looks like im the only one.
we need more ppl back on here who did chin implants, reading back there were a few, i guess they stop using this.
loukoum dont change a THING, those are cute eyes!!!!! pls dont change it otherwise u wont have those cute anime asian eyes
trust me, in a guy's opinion, i think its really adorable!!


Oh sorry ! there's a complet misunderstood ! I DON'T want to change my eyes for nothing and also DON'T want to look eurasian ^^'.

As Ranconan advice me to do (perhpas) a high bridge which begins from the middle of the eyes , I thought that it will look eurasian, but as I don't really know what it looks likes, I just ask if Ranconan have a celebrity or a picture in mind. Perhaps it's right, but don't know ( I have send an email to Dr Hsu about this question =) )

But, I DON'T want to change anything about my eyes, and search for an eurasian look.
I just want precisely to keep my asian features ^^

Sorry for the misunderstood ^^' ( and thanks about the cute eyes thing ^^ well, it's true that a lot of ppl , asian or not tell me that I have really cute eyes ^^' sometimes thought that I'm wearing Circle lense lol )

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Postby jamie82 » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 8:51 am

ranconan wrote:Hi Jamie, is your nose still really swollen at the tip? =( i feel so depressed whenever i look into the mirror with a hugeeee tip staring back at me.. =[


yup its still swollen. Somehow in the mirror its not so bad, then I take pictures it seems exacerbated in size.

Is your tip still hard or soft? Mine is still hard lol

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Postby ranconan » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:17 am

jamie82 wrote:
ranconan wrote:Hi Jamie, is your nose still really swollen at the tip? =( i feel so depressed whenever i look into the mirror with a hugeeee tip staring back at me.. =[


yup its still swollen. Somehow in the mirror its not so bad, then I take pictures it seems exacerbated in size.

Is your tip still hard or soft? Mine is still hard lol


still hard.. you used ear cartilage too right? =)
i like how my nostrils curve coz i think it looks great.. just that its asymmetrical so i looks stupid in pictures. lol.

how many % do you think it has gone down? from what i heard its about 50%!

i rly wish to hit the 2months mark soon =[

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Postby Blissful09 » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:50 pm

yupp mine too
i think pictures add 10% more swollowness or something

i have a question for ppl who been/or live in singapore.
Most of the doctors there are asian aren't they? How come you guys dont go to your country's doctors? Where do they study? (for example i notice doctors in Taiwan got degrees from USA or Japan and then sometimes study under korean doctors too) I heard singapore is very modern so im guessing they just get there degrees in there own country then?
Just curious.

Anyways got lots of projects and tests. There were 2 ppl on here going to Dr Hsu getting it done now (or soon), keep in touch!! and PM me if you have any questions ^___^

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Postby missuglynose » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 1:43 pm

I have a question for those of you who did your noses with Dr. Hsu - are we required to alternate between cold/hot compresses after 72 hours? I read on other PS sites that this helps increase the blood circulation and speeds up reduction of swelling.

Unfortunately I was given no proper instructions on how to care for my nose after surgery when I left the hospital :evil:

By the way, my nose looks quite nice now in real life even though it's only my 5th day, but in pictures it's hoooge! Just wondering, the alar width doesn't go down with the swelling does it? Cos in pictures my nostrils definitely look smaller my the width of the base of my nose is still the same :???:

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Postby bbabymilo » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 7:13 pm

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