Comestic and Plastic surgery in Taiwan

[angelfern]

Hi blissful,

uhh?
I thought u just did your nose barely 2 weeks ago, why thinking of revision. I did mine in SG 4 years ago, rather naive, didn't read the forum & know about extrusion, just trust the doc & do it, probably told doc i don't want to do ear cartilage coz scared of pain..

so u used your rib?

The nurses sound scary & your drip thingy seems painful too.
How much did you pay for Dr Hsu? Dr Kao charges NT120 000 for rib, NT 150 000 for donated rib.

i paid 100,000 =(

well cuz no one answered yet that the nose will all of the usdden surve upwards.. i too know that it wouldnt make sense for a downward curved nose to all of the sudden curve upwards.. so im guessing its going to look like a long nose / bird's nose forever. Its not getting any nicer looking. Its sooo ugly cuz its incredibly high... only the tip will deswell, the part between my eyes already seem to heal but its still quite high. Im giving the tip a chance to deswell but even i know its not gonna point upwards..just droop downwards.


Missuglynose please keep contact with me when u go to dr hsu ok? Your damn lucky.. i wish i used what u did... i regret using my rib.. its wayyy too much material. my nose so damn long. DAMN i wish we can trade material!!! lol

[email protected]

Thanks, i think from what i read from his website, i may pay more than that as it's a revision case. Will probably go to Dr Kao then since i'm familiar with taipei now.

Be patient dear, it's still swelling, wait 6 months later to gauge the final result.

[hello84]

Hi blissful,

uhh?
I thought u just did your nose barely 2 weeks ago, why thinking of revision. I did mine in SG 4 years ago, rather naive, didn't read the forum & know about extrusion, just trust the doc & do it, probably told doc i don't want to do ear cartilage coz scared of pain..

so u used your rib?

The nurses sound scary & your drip thingy seems painful too.
How much did you pay for Dr Hsu? Dr Kao charges NT120 000 for rib, NT 150 000 for donated rib.

i paid 100,000 =(

well cuz no one answered yet that the nose will all of the usdden surve upwards.. i too know that it wouldnt make sense for a downward curved nose to all of the sudden curve upwards.. so im guessing its going to look like a long nose / bird's nose forever. Its not getting any nicer looking. Its sooo ugly cuz its incredibly high... only the tip will deswell, the part between my eyes already seem to heal but its still quite high. Im giving the tip a chance to deswell but even i know its not gonna point upwards..just droop downwards.


Missuglynose please keep contact with me when u go to dr hsu ok? Your damn lucky.. i wish i used what u did... i regret using my rib.. its wayyy too much material. my nose so damn long. DAMN i wish we can trade material!!! lol

[email protected]

Thanks, i think from what i read from his website, i may pay more than that as it's a revision case. Will probably go to Dr Kao then since i'm familiar with taipei now.

Be patient dear, it's still swelling, wait 6 months later to gauge the final result.

Hi Blissful,

Using own own rib will have self absorption, so don't worry. My nose was done by Dr Hsu, Post-Op 9 month, my nose now became smaller and shorter compare to first few month. Infact I am asking from Dr hsu for revision but I was rejected by him. I want it slightly longer. Eventually, I might be going to Dr Kao for the revision=) so don't worry.

Regards,

[shinangel]

Hi blissful,

uhh?
I thought u just did your nose barely 2 weeks ago, why thinking of revision. I did mine in SG 4 years ago, rather naive, didn't read the forum & know about extrusion, just trust the doc & do it, probably told doc i don't want to do ear cartilage coz scared of pain..

so u used your rib?

The nurses sound scary & your drip thingy seems painful too.
How much did you pay for Dr Hsu? Dr Kao charges NT120 000 for rib, NT 150 000 for donated rib.

i paid 100,000 =(

well cuz no one answered yet that the nose will all of the usdden surve upwards.. i too know that it wouldnt make sense for a downward curved nose to all of the sudden curve upwards.. so im guessing its going to look like a long nose / bird's nose forever. Its not getting any nicer looking. Its sooo ugly cuz its incredibly high... only the tip will deswell, the part between my eyes already seem to heal but its still quite high. Im giving the tip a chance to deswell but even i know its not gonna point upwards..just droop downwards.


Missuglynose please keep contact with me when u go to dr hsu ok? Your damn lucky.. i wish i used what u did... i regret using my rib.. its wayyy too much material. my nose so damn long. DAMN i wish we can trade material!!! lol

[email protected]

Hi Blissful!

Did u go under dr. Hsu (sorry for asking the question, but with the numerous posts on this forum I am getting totally confused about who had/wants what under who, if you get what I mean)?

First of all, like other people said previously, it would be better to wait a few months before deciding on any revision. However, I would like to know if the result looks anything like the simulation you've been shown. Did the doc tell you how long it would take for your nose to settle?

As for my own rhino, despite the swelling during the first days post-op (which was actually negligible in my case) I could tell straightaway that the job was botched, as even the doc noticed the asymmetry. Furthermore, if the area between your eyes doesn't unswell after one month or so, it's probably not going to subside any more significantly.

Still, each individual reacts in a very different way. For starters, I have a goretex graft, which shows through my quite thin and fair skin. And I don't know how much the height went down in my very own case. Just be aware that you have to be patient. The first week, not to mention month, is a pain in the arse. If that could be a consolation for you, I had my nose job done in July 2008, and I currently have to wait until November 2010 for a revision. In the meanwhile I am living a nightmare, but it serves as a lesson. Now I know that it's better not to rush into any decision.

I am going to see dr. Hsu in November 2010. So if anybody would like to join me, please feel free to send a pm. I'll travel from Belgium, and will stay in Kaohsiung for about 2 weeks.

[Blissful09]

Hi Blissful,

Using own own rib will have self absorption, so don't worry. My nose was done by Dr Hsu, Post-Op 9 month, my nose now became smaller and shorter compare to first few month. Infact I am asking from Dr hsu for revision but I was rejected by him. I want it slightly longer. Eventually, I might be going to Dr Kao for the revision=) so don't worry.

Regards,

thanks sooooo much for your message! yeah im quite happy now..

SORRY FOR SCARING EVERYONE. my nose isnt super long anymore. its actually healing nicely now , slowly but nicely.. i feel bad for ppl giving a hard time to there suregons.. there should be a rule....
You are not allowed to email your doctor until 1 month after surgery...
it totally makes sense for ppl to make bad testimonials.. and then come back months later and then apologize/correct
dr hsu is really skilled and i believe in his work.. he makes it look a certain way for a reason.. im guessing he made my look long cuz he knew its gonna absorb and long will turn into medium. i guess if u start with medium it might get short.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNew ... 74477.html
CEO dies after plastic OP

I am now convinced that the area of plastic surgery is a highly risky thing. The police documentated the case as an unnarural death and is passing the case over to the coroner.

I give up my pursuit of beauty in the area of plastic surgery. No more ops.

ya im not surprised like i mention i feel there is a opportunity for a lot of things to go wrong during ps.. thats why i always wanted 1 nose job and told myself not gonna do anything else... unless im hideous

[jamie82]

Hi everyone,

I just had my surgery on the 7th and I'm probably having peak swelling now - I look like I've been run over by a bus. I'm really really hoping it goes down ASAP and my neck has been hurting from sleeping from an elevated angle.

Dr. Kao is really very nice and was very very detailed during his consult. His attention to aesthetics is very detailed and you can immediately tell he is very passionate and he even printed out various pictures of celebrities (other angles) to show me before surgery.

I ended up having rib and ear for my revision work and I had problems running my card through at first and I was freaking out (UOB forgot to up my limit and I had to call back after surgery to get it done), but Dr. Kao was really nice and went ahead with surgery anyways. One thing those of you paying by card should remember is to up your limit since its usually about 5k by default, the surgery costs about 5.5k.

He simply wanted to focus on the surgery and told me not to worry about the money first.

The plus points so far is mainly Dr. Kao. I'm also glad so far to have met a Singapore lady so I don't feel so lonely. She came alone too and we got to talk and all, I had to pass her one of my cardi's since she wasn't prepared for the cold as well like me and we were both complaining non stop about the cold.

Food is pretty convenient if you don't mind 7-11 which is at KangNing, which is quite well stocked (and cheap) with various types of fresher foods e.g. they have fruits / salads etc If you're a bread type of person they have a huge selection of those in the cafe and 7-11, and they have alot of bento type stuff with noodles or rice as well. Make sure to get the 7-11 clerk to heat it up.

The negatives are the weather where I'm now freezing my ass off as I type in this room. I didn't expect to have to use my pea coat but I ended up using it anyways and I've been even wearing my coat to sleep since its so cold and there's no heating in the room.

The nurses here are like what the others have said, they are pretty unfriendly but I realised you kinda have to talk to them and joke or make small talk, its kinda opposite from Singapore where nurses warm up to you, not the other way round. It's a very weird dynamic for sure. After they were cool with me and all and realised I wasn't some irritating patient, they became helpful and all, and even helped me sneak out before I was supposed to be discharged, since I simply couldn't stand lying in the bed stoning, they just said "don't be out too long, make sure to come back". There's no TV or anything in the hospital room, just lots of old people milling about in the corridors so I didn't find that uplifting at all, I simply got the nurses to remove my drip and I went for a walk.

Last of all, the pain is bearable, the most pain is a dull ache from the rib area which is quite manageable. I'm probably more grossed out by the fact I haven't showered yet since the surgery - I'm still holding back since the ear wound disgusts me and I look pretty gruesome at the nose area - I'd only want to shower if Dr. Kao cleans up the wound or something (alot of crusty blood which I don't want to look at).

I'll keep you guys posted as I go along One thing I thought I should highlight is that Dr. Kao told me due to the demand he has, surgery price will be increased to NTD$140k pretty soon.

[angelfern]

hi jamie,

How do u plan your stay in taipei?

There's one night stay in the hospital, do u advise us to book Kang Ning apartment for the next one or two days after discharge or we can proceed to stay in the hotel in Ximenting after discharge?

How many times do we have to see Dr Kao after the op for review?
Wish u a speedy recovery.

Thanks!

[jamie82]

hi jamie,

How do u plan your stay in taipei?

There's one night stay in the hospital, do u advise us to book Kang Ning apartment for the next one or two days after discharge or we can proceed to stay in the hotel in Ximenting after discharge?

How many times do we have to see Dr Kao after the op for review?
Wish u a speedy recovery.

Thanks!

There's no reason you can't go to ximending, but the problem which turned me off that idea is that you have a huge cast on your nose, I planned to go shopping etc but felt turned off on that. I'll be finding out more how I can take an MRT since I hope to do some shopping at least.

The concierge person is quite friendly too, I asked her about the shopping areas and she pointed out alot of places in the map, e.g. this area near sogo which is less far than ximending.

Also, pls note ximending is on the other end of the city, takes more than an hour to get there from Kangning which is at "DongHu". Xi and Dong one at each end, its quite leceh in case anything happens and you need to see the doctor. Its really up to you the trade off I feel more secure staying in Kangning, whereas you have alot more things to do in Ximending if you don't mind walking around with a nose cast.

I dunno how many times for review, but so far I'm going for one today, then my next plan is to find a hairstylist (there's a 2-3 just down the street from KNH) to get my hair washed since its very troublesome to do it myself with the cast.

*update. I just saw him for the checkup I find Dr. Kao's after care and bedside manners pretty good. One thing I was surprised was Dr. Kao himself handling most of the checkup where he washed my nose and cleaned up the incision sites etc, he's very energetic and genuinely empathic - it seems odd he doesn't have some assistant.

[angelfern]

Thanks for your prompt reply.
very assuring to read your post coz i'm still scared about removing the rib, was imaging that it'll be pretty painful.

Sogo is at Zhong Xiao Fuxing mrt, follow the blue line, foodcourt in Sogo not bad, lotsa korean/ chinese hot pot dishes, about nt130, japanese udon hot plate serving is large & generous with big chicken cutlet etc.

Basement has supermarket & nice bakery.

1) Is there a restaurant at kangning apartment or they offer breakfast if we book their room.

2)how many days do u plan stay in taipei?

2) Is there additional surcharge to pay in credit card? coz Dr jong's clinic has to pay extra 5% more.

Thanks.

[Blissful09]

^ jamie make sure u tell them about your rib... wow u are quite strong.. i didnt go shopping until day 4

this is what i wanted to show.. i wanted my side profile to look like this



but my side profile started off looking like this....

[cersepn]

jamie82: Nice write-up. I remember your original nose was already very nice, but i guess we're never satisfied with what we have ^^
What type of nose were you aiming for? You were already very pretty before, can't imagine what you'll look like after!

Blissful09: Hmm, it's not just the nose that affects the side profile. Distance between base of nose to eyebrows, base of nose to chin; jaw/chin positioning with respect to the other parts of the face are all very important too.

But if you ask me, having short AND small face is probably the most important 'requisite' for a celeb face. Chin projection has to be good, can't be receded. Like for vivian hsu, her face is very short, but her chin has just the right amount of projection (for a lady) when you look at her side profile. A lot of SG/chinese people have a short face but a terribly weak chin so it totally throws off the facial balance.

[jamie82]

Thanks for your prompt reply.
very assuring to read your post coz i'm still scared about removing the rib, was imaging that it'll be pretty painful.

Sogo is at Zhong Xiao Fuxing mrt, follow the blue line, foodcourt in Sogo not bad, lotsa korean/ chinese hot pot dishes, about nt130, japanese udon hot plate serving is large & generous with big chicken cutlet etc.

Basement has supermarket & nice bakery.

1) Is there a restaurant at kangning apartment or they offer breakfast if we book their room.

2)how many days do u plan stay in taipei?

2) Is there additional surcharge to pay in credit card? coz Dr jong's clinic has to pay extra 5% more.

Thanks.

I'm terribly bored in my hotel room thats why replies are fast lol. Anyways I'll be sure to check out Sogo area I haven't even figured out how to take MRT yet but I'm not going to step in a train unless my cast is gone.

As for your qns

1. There's a restaurant in the apartment but I'd say the breakfast really really sucks, maybe its worst cos I can't taste anything. I'm not sure how to describe it but its a limited salad bar, some juices, sliced bread, a pau dish and then a spread of porridge type of buffet and the accompanying porridge foods e.g like seaweed, kimchi, etc most of it looked quite gross to me. I just walked down the buffet aisle, flipped up the cover then immediately flipped down - if you can imagine that feeling.

One morning there was even spagethii one time there was the jap steamed egg (first time I saw it was like scrambled egg with spring onions), another time was some stewed dark sauce drumlets thingies - its really unpredictable and quite sucky, the rest of the restaurant food ala carte I think is decent like western / chinese stuff. I just go there to get coffee and w/e fruit (today was guava -.-) and maybe eggs in w/e preparation since I like eggs.

And yah there's no room service you can't really order to your room, I just buy from 7 11 its really quite a wide variety there they heat it up for you.

2. I'm staying 10 days

3. Card charge I have to check, but I guess the more worrying part for future patients is that Dr. Kao is charging 140k NTD soon...

[jamie82]

^ jamie make sure u tell them about your rib... wow u are quite strong.. i didnt go shopping until day 4

this is what i wanted to show.. i wanted my side profile to look like this


but my side profile started off looking like this....

I'm actually quite weak one, somemore I'm not very healthy.

I had to really force myself to get off the bed and walk around and instantly I felt better - being stuck in bed with limited movement made me feel worse. The first day when I had the op in the morning I slept all the way till the next afternoon, waking up occasionally to pee and drink water - I was also freezing like hell, they had to cover me with 2 blankets. To sum the first day, it was like being hit by a GA lorry infused with vodka, where basically my mind and body broke into two, headed in opposite directions and then agreed to meet up in a total blur the next day. Its like the worse hangover I've ever had.

One thing to note too cos of the throat tube and catheter (it took me a hard time to get the image out of my head but they stick a tube into your urethra when you get knocked out) - you'll have sore throat and a sore bladder for 1-2 days. =X I was really really feeling awful until I forced myself to stand up and then I did ask Dr. Kao if the rib wound would reopen easily, he said no, so I realised that the gingerness you get in mobility postop kinda exacerbates the pain, once you get over that you think less of the rib pain.

Blissful, maybe you have to wait for recovery since tip de-swells the slowest? Please be patient yea... my tip looks fugly too now under the cast haha.

For Dr. Kao patients anyways, if you have a picture of a celeb, please remember the name, he actually googles up the celeb (I showed him isabella leung) and he prints like a lot of pictures of her in various angles then he consults you on your preferences before you get the op. I thought that part was pretty cool.

[jamie82]

jamie82: Nice write-up. I remember your original nose was already very nice, but i guess we're never satisfied with what we have ^^
What type of nose were you aiming for? You were already very pretty before, can't imagine what you'll look like after!

I'm really flattered babe

My pictures don't really show my old nose lol but its not nice at all, my side view is damn flat, no bridge and my dorsum is twisted, I'm actually breathing better now and I realised its a deviated septum/dorsum thing which made my nose look weird. I hope I look ok bah lol, I did ask Dr. Kao so will I look like Isabella Leung after surgery in a joking manner and "Will I look pretty?" he said "Jing4 Liang4!". He's a damn nice guy easy to chat with even though he's so focused on his work, I was "suaning" him that he looks damn young and he was very easygoing about it.

[feline.eyes]

I'll keep you guys posted as I go along One thing I thought I should highlight is that Dr. Kao told me due to the demand he has, surgery price will be increased to NTD$140k pretty soon.

Holy batman poo... Now I am totally regretting posting Dr Kao up on my list. Before I posted him, he was hardly known among the English speaking diaspora, only among the Taiwanese. Oh thanks, now the price have gone up! Jeebus... All I get from hard selling him is... *sob*

*back to saving money for revision*

[angelfern]

i'll be going soon, all details are appreciated coz it'll keep me mentally prepared.

what's with the tube at uretha? so embarrassing. Fear we'll leak during the op? oh, so we've to go waxing?

Does kangning apt have cable tv, fridge, hot kettle?

Buy a MRT pass known as easy card, NT500, NT100 is deposit, u can refund the remaining value on your last day but deduct a small amt for administration fee.

really more convenient, don't have to search for change etc for your trips.