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Postby jamie82 » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 1:20 am

I didn't mention which network :???: , for now I'll assume its accidental, he's probably had time off on xmas eve and accidentally mass sent requests while trying stuff out. I'll probably tease him about it when I meet him in person just to make sure.

I just thought it was odd so I had to ask, in case other people got it as well.

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Postby missfoxxxy » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 2:41 am

missuglynose wrote:
missfoxxxy wrote:hi guys, anybody every got a quote from Dr Kao for rhinoplasty before?

Goretex and ear cartilage.

please let me know! thanks a million!! (:


He quoted me NTD60000.



shit. Now i;m worried that he hates me cause he quoted me 65000. HOW?! hahahah. anyway I think I'll do fascia lata with ear cartilage.

opinions?

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Postby missfoxxxy » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 2:44 am

hahahah he requested to add me on Hi5!! :D

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Postby jamie82 » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:49 pm

missfoxxxy wrote:hahahah he requested to add me on Hi5!! :D


Its gotta be some accidental mass invite thing then lol.

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Postby fifipek » Thu, 31 Dec 2009 7:46 pm

hi who is better in eyelids surgery?
dr su or dr chuang?
who charges cheaper?

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Postby boii18 » Fri, 01 Jan 2010 2:40 pm

I know its premature to say this but, for many reasons, I am extremely dis-satisfied with dr chuang's eyelid work. My friend too. If you need me to elaborate, I can. He simply does not take your opinions, requirements into consideration and has poor aesthetic taste. I am now disfigured for life because of his work.

(1) I have many times told him I do not want the epi to reduce the distance between my two eyes and he said it can be done that way. But now my eyes are so much closer together, does not fit my look. It looks soo much older, and so much tear duct is showing. Wide-set eyes look youthful and I do not have that look anymore. By measurement and photographs , he has easily reduced 4-5 mm of that distance. I told him I did not want the horizontal length of my eye to increase and he said it can be done. Surely he can't be that deaf to my preference?

(2) The eyelid I asked for was parallel ( and I even told him I did not want tapered-parallel or any other variations ), but what I got was a freak between parallel and tapered, and it appears tapered in many photo shots. And we know how un-natural a high-tapered crease can look.


(3) And I have told him many times not to remove any fat from my eyes as I did not want a hollow look like a dinosaur eyes or Chucky, but he just did that, and even showed me the fats after surgery. Two pieces slightly larger than a 20 cent coin. Just imagine how freaked out I am. My eyes are 100% older, and look so weird and caucasian.

(4) His aesthetic sense is so poor. I look so awkward now especially when I put on big eye enlarging contact lens. I now look non-chinese, like a mix of alien, malay and american. And its ugly.

I can only say that this is the most disfiguring surgery I have ever done. I will never go under the knife again. The risks of coming into a physician again who anyhow does work is scary. It disfigures you and scars you for life. I now have hollow, unnatural old eyes that I did not totally ask for.

Please do not put your eyes under dr chuang. Dr su was kind enough to tell me not to undergo eyelid surgery and I should have went with her opinion. She said my eyes before is 94% and want to reach perfect, she cannot do it. She said alot of girls want my eyes. Now I am 1.5k+ poorer, and so much uglier ( I compared my photos ). Gosh. Plastic surgery is supposed to make u look better and not uglier. This is the only surgery I have so far that make me look uglier. Sighs~~..

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Postby fifipek » Fri, 01 Jan 2010 4:12 pm

boii18 wrote:I know its premature to say this but, for many reasons, I am extremely dis-satisfied with dr chuang's eyelid work. My friend too. If you need me to elaborate, I can. He simply does not take your opinions, requirements into consideration and has poor aesthetic taste. I am now disfigured for life because of his work.

(1) I have many times told him I do not want the epi to reduce the distance between my two eyes and he said it can be done that way. But now my eyes are so much closer together, does not fit my look. It looks soo much older, and so much tear duct is showing. Wide-set eyes look youthful and I do not have that look anymore. By measurement and photographs , he has easily reduced 4-5 mm of that distance. I told him I did not want the horizontal length of my eye to increase and he said it can be done. Surely he can't be that deaf to my preference?

(2) The eyelid I asked for was parallel ( and I even told him I did not want tapered-parallel or any other variations ), but what I got was a freak between parallel and tapered, and it appears tapered in many photo shots. And we know how un-natural a high-tapered crease can look.


(3) And I have told him many times not to remove any fat from my eyes as I did not want a hollow look like a dinosaur eyes or Chucky, but he just did that, and even showed me the fats after surgery. Two pieces slightly larger than a 20 cent coin. Just imagine how freaked out I am. My eyes are 100% older, and look so weird and caucasian.

(4) His aesthetic sense is so poor. I look so awkward now especially when I put on big eye enlarging contact lens. I now look non-chinese, like a mix of alien, malay and american. And its ugly.

I can only say that this is the most disfiguring surgery I have ever done. I will never go under the knife again. The risks of coming into a physician again who anyhow does work is scary. It disfigures you and scars you for life. I now have hollow, unnatural old eyes that I did not totally ask for.

Please do not put your eyes under dr chuang. Dr su was kind enough to tell me not to undergo eyelid surgery and I should have went with her opinion. She said my eyes before is 94% and want to reach perfect, she cannot do it. She said alot of girls want my eyes. Now I am 1.5k+ poorer, and so much uglier ( I compared my photos ). Gosh. Plastic surgery is supposed to make u look better and not uglier. This is the only surgery I have so far that make me look uglier. Sighs~~..




hi do u mind to email me ur before n after pics to fifipek@hotmail.com?
im considering either dr chuang or dr su.
but aft reading ur post im scared to go to dr chuang.
i already have double eyelids but one eye is deeper den the other.
i would like even eye lids n dolly eyes.

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Postby takuda » Fri, 01 Jan 2010 4:35 pm

Hi boii18, not rubbing salt onto wound so u can take my opinion with a pinch of salt.

1) i have not done anything with dr chuang but from forums, he's quite respectable and also renowned for listening to patients. Vickyabc is one forummer for example. Personally, he is one of the taiwan doctors i have consulted, regarding my revision eyelids. And my experience was that, he is very attentive and (though i have to admit) he is really packed with appointments, so might not sit down for an hour talking to you, he tries his best to listen/discuss with you.

2) The nature of epi is to remove the mongolian fold and hence, even if you request for dr chuang to NOT reduce the distance so much, it will still appear to be closer tgt because the fold is removed?

3) You are still experiencing swelling, esp with epi. Give yourself time for results to show and have faith in dr chuang. Your eyes are cut up, fats removed, and sewn back. You cannot see the final result in such a short period of time. And i am speaking from someone who has had eyes done. Mine looked normal (to people who didn't know me) only at 2.5 weeks. I have one parallel one tapered as well.

Lastly, i'm not trying to claim any credit but remember when you posted ur pics last time, i already told u ur eyes are nice and you really shouldn't have done anything to it. My eyes ''before'' was nowhere near urs pre-op.

Since you've already done it, just sit back, and wait for the results to show. I'm pretty sure ur crease height will go down. With a lower tapered crease, i'm show you'll still look asian/chinese.
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Postby fifipek » Fri, 01 Jan 2010 4:42 pm

takuda wrote:Hi boii18, not rubbing salt onto wound so u can take my opinion with a pinch of salt.

1) i have not done anything with dr chuang but from forums, he's quite respectable and also renowned for listening to patients. Vickyabc is one forummer for example. Personally, he is one of the taiwan doctors i have consulted, regarding my revision eyelids. And my experience was that, he is very attentive and (though i have to admit) he is really packed with appointments, so might not sit down for an hour talking to you, he tries his best to listen/discuss with you.

2) The nature of epi is to remove the mongolian fold and hence, even if you request for dr chuang to NOT reduce the distance so much, it will still appear to be closer tgt because the fold is removed?

3) You are still experiencing swelling, esp with epi. Give yourself time for results to show and have faith in dr chuang. Your eyes are cut up, fats removed, and sewn back. You cannot see the final result in such a short period of time. And i am speaking from someone who has had eyes done. Mine looked normal (to people who didn't know me) only at 2.5 weeks. I have one parallel one tapered as well.

Lastly, i'm not trying to claim any credit but remember when you posted ur pics last time, i already told u ur eyes are nice and you really shouldn't have done anything to it. My eyes ''before'' was nowhere near urs pre-op.

Since you've already done it, just sit back, and wait for the results to show. I'm pretty sure ur crease height will go down. With a lower tapered crease, i'm show you'll still look asian/chinese.


hi takuda did your eyelids take to heal?

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Postby Miffy_2452 » Fri, 01 Jan 2010 7:39 pm

Hi, all..

I am going to Dr. Hsu in late January and recently someone who was initially gonna go meet me there cancelled her trip. Anyone will be in Kaohsiung from 23rd Jan - 1st Feb??wanna meet up??

Cheers! :)

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Postby takuda » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:45 am

hi fifipek, i think you meant how long my eyes took to heal?

erm, i have to say it very much depends on indivdual and the method you use. i did the full incision ie the worst you can expect (as compared to partial/mini incision etc) For me, i have to say i'm a pretty 'fast' healer (self proclaimed though). I had no bruisings whatsoever, just swelling (aka sausage lids)

1st - 5th day my sausage lid varied in size but from 3rd day onwards i was able to open eyes FULLY though feeling the 'tight' feeling.

After stitch removal on day 5, my wound was pretty much itchy but all was fine and on my way home, i dropped by the supermarket to stock up my orange juice, without anyone staring at me. Was in specs.

Then as the days go by, it got better. People who know me definitely could see the diff but people who didn't know me couldnt realise anything cause there wasn't apparent bruising etc, just mild swelling. (i reckon mild is an overstatement as well) before day 10, it basically looked like..erm..someone who pastes the double eyelid sticker a tad too high but with eyes opened, it was normal looking. oh, my eye lashes were a little like 'more curled' if you get what i mean. other than that, i had no problems.

lastly, to add on why i think i'm a 'fast healer' is cause though i did the full incision (like what dr nara in the other thread does) i dont get the red, purplish brusings posted by other forummers..i didn't take sineech btw. just lotsa orange juice. hope that helps..
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Postby TreeHugger » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 4:12 am

boii18 wrote:I know its premature to say this but, for many reasons, I am extremely dis-satisfied with dr chuang's eyelid work. My friend too. If you need me to elaborate, I can. He simply does not take your opinions, requirements into consideration and has poor aesthetic taste. I am now disfigured for life because of his work.

(1) I have many times told him I do not want the epi to reduce the distance between my two eyes and he said it can be done that way. But now my eyes are so much closer together, does not fit my look. It looks soo much older, and so much tear duct is showing. Wide-set eyes look youthful and I do not have that look anymore. By measurement and photographs , he has easily reduced 4-5 mm of that distance. I told him I did not want the horizontal length of my eye to increase and he said it can be done. Surely he can't be that deaf to my preference?

(2) The eyelid I asked for was parallel ( and I even told him I did not want tapered-parallel or any other variations ), but what I got was a freak between parallel and tapered, and it appears tapered in many photo shots. And we know how un-natural a high-tapered crease can look.


(3) And I have told him many times not to remove any fat from my eyes as I did not want a hollow look like a dinosaur eyes or Chucky, but he just did that, and even showed me the fats after surgery. Two pieces slightly larger than a 20 cent coin. Just imagine how freaked out I am. My eyes are 100% older, and look so weird and caucasian.

(4) His aesthetic sense is so poor. I look so awkward now especially when I put on big eye enlarging contact lens. I now look non-chinese, like a mix of alien, malay and american. And its ugly.

I can only say that this is the most disfiguring surgery I have ever done. I will never go under the knife again. The risks of coming into a physician again who anyhow does work is scary. It disfigures you and scars you for life. I now have hollow, unnatural old eyes that I did not totally ask for.

Please do not put your eyes under dr chuang. Dr su was kind enough to tell me not to undergo eyelid surgery and I should have went with her opinion. She said my eyes before is 94% and want to reach perfect, she cannot do it. She said alot of girls want my eyes. Now I am 1.5k+ poorer, and so much uglier ( I compared my photos ). Gosh. Plastic surgery is supposed to make u look better and not uglier. This is the only surgery I have so far that make me look uglier. Sighs~~..


Didn't you JUST get it done in december? It's been less than a month, if so.

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Postby Blissful09 » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 1:44 pm

[b]READ READ READ READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]

Dr hsu rhinoplasty

Hi guys i dont wanna write FULL testmonial since still a lil depress right now.

Im gonna rep[eat some things said on the forum and SOME THINGS THAT HAVE NOT been said on the forum that UPSET ME and i think i should warn u.

- DO NOT expect rhinoplasty alone/ eyes alone to make u good looking
- Someone stated on here "my nose as a separate thing is quite nice but on my face.. doesnt suit it or maybe im not use to it yet (this i 100% agree) my nose looks damn awkward that it make me depress and i really dont think i can get use to it
- SURGERY IS NOT A JOKE, i can totally EASILY see how complications can arrive and I CAN TELL U NOW, most ppl who do surgery 1st time end up going through MORE SURGERIES!

Surgery in Taiwan is different from Korea. In Taiwan (AND IM SHOCK NO ONE SAID THIS YET) u have to go through a series of health examinations.

First off, i would like to say Dr Hsu is a KIND, charming, nice, bubbley HAPPY AND HONEST DOCTOR, he makes u feel happy and comfortable AND THATS WHAT U NEED WHEN U ARE GOING TO BE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY!

I met Dr Jong in taipei going to get my eyes done... and it was eerie from the start.. he was quite rude to his assistant which was a complete turn off for me, u pay 100$ NTD for consultation and i went inside his office.
He kept bugging me to sit up straight and said "Look this way ok this way? what r u doing forward!" and damn annoying i wanted to punch him. He uses a thin needle tool to show u wear the double eyelid line will be and he accidently jabbed it into my eye!!! So i was like screw it, im not doing double eyelid with u! I kind wish i went to Dr Chuang instead.
Anyways i ended up not messing with my eyes (thank god)

Then i went to kaoshiung and saw dr Hsu, his clinic is full of patients different ages (he is a ENT specialist) i was LAST to see him at 9:30pm
and its so funny that i was the first patient to see Dr Jong in the morning and he was in a bitch mode.. and i was LAST to see Dr Hsu after a long day of work, and he was still enthuastic and cheery!

-LISTEN TO YOUR DOCTOR! I can tell u now Dr Hsu gets better and better so i think those of u going to him later are damn lucky. He suggest me a curve (like anime nose) for my side profile.. yet i backed out of it last minute and told him "no i just want it straight down" I REGRETTED IT SO MUCH

Anyways YOU NEED A MANDARIN SPEAKER WITH U, DONT ASK ME WHY JUST DO IT, or else your gonna buy the first plane ticket back to your country.

- His client and hospital are in different areas, the first thing i did was health checkup (which i mention korea doesnt really care about this stuff, but i think its crucial)

- They first check your height and weight (probably too see how much GA they shouldput in your body
- They then give u a X-ray exam
- Then then give you a heart rate/beat exam (you need to show your boobies for this one, they stick some suction things on this and check the rate of your heart i think)
- and blood pressure test (simple, take that thingy and wrapp around your arm and it squeeze your arm)
- Then blood test (FREAKIN FREAKED ME OUT, they take a sample of your blood!!!!!!!!!!!! dont look at it!!!!!!!)

Then the IV drop scared me, BTW i thought IV drip goes into the otherside of your elbow BUT IT DOESNT, they directly stick it into the top of your hand! HUrt like a bitch (sorry for my language, i think i used the F-word plenty during my taiwan stay) and then guess what happen? The retarded nurse goes "Sorry we have to do it again" apparently she couldnt directly stab my vein in the correct spot, so she tabb my arm and tried again in a different spot (for me IV drip damn hurt)
I wanna tell u that i dont like the nurses there.. they even gave my friend a dirty look. Mind you, there hospital is quite busy and they DID offer me if i wanted a on-call english speaker nurse but i need to pay more. ( i wanna say this to be fair, but i really think if u choose to be a nurse u shouldnt be gentle, patient and kind REGAURDLESS if money is involved or not) there were times i didnt feel i was treated nicely, The nurses asked "what are u doing?" why arent u icing your nose.. why are u icing your forehead? you got a nose job....
so i actually tried to ice my nose WITH my cast on... my doctor was shocked to hear that! He said DONT TOUCH THE NOSE!!!!!!!! Ice your cheeks and forehead and i said "Thats what i did... but your nurse told me to put it on my nose..." he then corrected the nurse which i think pissed her off even more. That night i woke up in the middle of the night SWEATING and having sortness of breathe, i couldnt find my buzzer (to call the nurse) so i kept saying "Help.. helpp.. and banging on the desk and saying Dui Bu Chi..( excuse me? my mandarin sucks) my neighbors beside me were kind enough to see me.. and went to get the nurse, 20 mins later the nurse finally walks in.. and it took me another 15 mins to tell her i needed to go bathroom.. this part i HONESTLY think she was faking to understand me!! Why? CUZ I SAID BATHROOM/ Wash ROOM/PEE PEE! Anything to make her understand NOT JUST THAT I DIRECTLY POINTED TO THE BATHROOM DOOR TOO! I tried to show her that i cant go to the bathroom unless she unhook my IV drip which is connected to your hand veins and the wall.. she finally understood, after a good pee pee she came back with Anti-biotics (which felt like saved my life cuz i stop getting sweaty and weird) There is two ways to inject anti biotics, one,.. she can open the cap and directly squirt it into your arm which takes 1 minute -2mins (faster way) or she can spill the antibiotics into your IV drip sack and let it hang and slowly go into your body (which is half an hour i believe) she open my cap and press it into my arm freak HURT omg hurt so damn bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dr Hsu came in again, everytime i see him i feel really happy, cuz he really does whatever it takes to make u happy, (if u meet him you will see)
He ask me how i was doing and i told him the anti-bitoic shot in my arm was damn painful. So he told the nurse just to put it in my IV drip next time instead of directly pushing it into my arm. The nurse DID do that.. but guess what she did? She rolled up my IV drop cord itno a knot and then quickly released it which made the anti-biotic shoot up my hand into my arm. I ask her why she did that and she said its cuz if u r using the iv drip she needs to make sure its going into my hand and she told me "if it hurts.. i need to take the needle out and do it again" at this piont i couldnt help but feel sorry for myself.. i started crying and telling her "no no it doesnt hurt... just leave it" im not about to do it for the 3rd time. She didnt look sorry for me at all.. and just left. PLEASE GET YOURSELF AND CARE-TAKER.. these nurses only care about money, (i heard korean nurses are much nicer)
Im gonna back up a bit and tell u that, ppl have a misunderstanding of some gas-mask putting u to sleep.. its not.. thats for oxygen i believe... they take out the IV drip and put G.A into instead.. note: your body is smart... it can tell the difference between good things going into you, and bad things going into you, IV drip/Anti-biotics feel like icicles..general Anesthesia feels like what a venomous snake would feel like if she spat inside your arm? It feels like a burning fire sensation.. at that time i just prayed that i quickly fall asleep.. and 10-15 seconds later i did =)

When i woke up my mouth was filled with saliva!! The taste in my mouth and the top of my mouth was like poisonous medicine is was gross!! I pointed to my mouth and the nurse sweep my saliva out of my mouth.. i tried to open my eyes but it was damn difficult cuz i was sooo tired and sleepy. Ppl say they couldnt remember but strangely i remember everything quite well.. they did a good job moving me from the operation table onto my bed i was not hurt this piont (others on here disagree tho)
Someone else also said they puked and barf and i was remembering that while i was healing.. and i did feel a bit pukey BUT I KNEw if i coughed, sneeze, laughed, yawn PUKING would be the MOST MOST painful and yes just like someone said.. It might be a vicious cycle, but that never hapen to me. Im really un satisifed with my nose, i think it made me uglier not prettier... im definately less cute. But Dr Hsu did a AMAZING job on the alar my nostrils look like perfect. But my nose is too high... i'll have to update u guys when the swelling is down.. cuz its so unfair right now.

BTW when u go to the operation room u gotta stripe down.. no bra, yes ppl will see your boobs even the doctor or course. you have to take your panties off, and socks and slippers EVERYTHING, they even removed my hair tie O_O... cuz u cannot have anything carrying bateria.. i always wondered what they did too me while i was asleep.. and i have the feeling they were cleaning me with a red solution... cuz i saw on my bed some orangey red stuff... but i know for sure i didnt not bleed from myself.. or have my period.. it was awkward..until i notice my belly button had red stuff in it too.. and i thought i was bleeding from inside my belly button... so that was quite unknown to me still.....

I gtg now... i'll update u guys again. Yes i cried 3 times the whole time in taiwan... You guys gotta stay strong.. Surgery is something u neeed to think about seriously... u can cry and regret all u want.. but u cannot go back in time..........
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Postby boii18 » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 1:44 pm

I admit there may be still some swelling left.

However, there is no excuse for the removal of fats, and worst, the epicanthoplasty which did not go up to what I wanted.

I told him and drew diagram to tell him I did not want the horizontal dimension of my eyes to increase.

In the past with a head-on photograph, the area between my eyes could fit around 1.3 eyes. Now it can only fit 1.1 eye. The result is a loss of my asian look, which I also told him repeatedly I did not desire at all.

Would epicanthoplasty slack over time, in the sense that the distance between eyes would increase? I think not.

Currently my tear duct is showing too much and my epi is asymmetrical.


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