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Postby hiking out » Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:04 pm

I belived it was chosen because it had some industry and was relatively unscath in the war, the argument was that detonating the A bomb over a previously un-bombed or little-bombed city would better illustrate the destructive effects of the A bomb.

sorry some errors, I believe that there is now an atomic bomb museum in Nagasaki but very little or no reference were made to the barakumins (ethnic underclass) and korean casualties.
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Postby earthfriendly » Thu, 19 Jun 2008 2:02 pm

durain wrote:
hiking out wrote:same reason why the Japanese government built a "Peace" Memorial in Hiroshima and refused to build a proper one in Nagasaki, sites of the atomic bombs in WW2. Nagasaki had a significant number of Koreans, many in forced labour camp/factories. Selective ammensia.


why the ang moh go bomb the korean? maybe they cant tell the difference? :P


That's sillily funny and which makes the event so tragic. Atomic bombs are weapons and in this case, with a goal to end the war and save american lives. It has no humanity. However, it was not an easy decision on Truman's part and affected deeply. Very sad. That's what war does to people. It is senseless.

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Postby earthfriendly » Thu, 19 Jun 2008 2:13 pm

hiking out wrote:I belived it was chosen because it had some industry and was relatively unscath in the war, the argument was that detonating the A bomb over a previously un-bombed or little-bombed city would better illustrate the destructive effects of the A bomb.

sorry some errors, I believe that there is now an atomic bomb museum in Nagasaki but very little or no reference were made to the barakumins (ethnic underclass) and korean casualties.


Been to the the Nagasaki museum and don't remember about them mentioning the barakumins. But then they are part of Japanese society so I don't know if there's a need to single them out. Everyone affected suffered. It is heart breaking to read or look at the disfigurement and stories on the aftermath of the bombing which has a lasting effect on the victims. What I find admirable, there was very little hate nor anger expressed towards the perpetrator, despite the magnitude. Rather people were focused on continuing on and movements/events were put in place to commemorate, and serve as a reminder, the cruelty of war. I find their spirit and stoicism admirable.

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Postby banana » Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:24 am

earthfriendly wrote:
Way_Fast_Whitey wrote:I lived in Taiwan where they don't call Caucasians "ang mo"; they call us "big nose" so, I would just call them "rice dick" ! :lol:


Many Chinese enjoy eating rice though! Ooops, sorry for being crude, unlady-like and derailing your post :oops: .


This is the sort of behaviour we should be encouraging! :lol:
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Postby ksl » Fri, 20 Jun 2008 2:20 am

Way_Fast_Whitey wrote:
I lived in Taiwan where they don't call Caucasians "ang mo"; they call us "big nose" so, I would just call them "rice dick" !


After 5 years in Taiwan, I have actually only ever heard it once, by kids. Although it was a regular in Beijing, the red haired devils with the big noses.
What I find more strange is why everyone in Singapore, Taiwan, and China, all die their hair, and then stare at people so much for no apparent reason. In 1991 when i was in Tiananmen Square, I was surrounded by a crowd, that touched my hair, pulled the hair on my chest, and generally just wanted to see their first foreigner, most of them where from the Country side. it was quite an experience.

I think foreigners are more ignorant to be honest, the ignorance comes in the retaliation of derogatory terms, when they should understand, that communism was behind most of the teachings and one should also understand that all countries have there pet names for us.

To retaliate is a childish immature act, of misunderstanding culture and the language. and reverting to a primitive local yob, doesn't help the situation, it just provokes it.

Although diplomacy is an art, for those, with self respect for others. The saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but calling names doesn't harm me" is a wise saying.

Words don't even have to be exchanged, and if its a serious threat of violent behaviour, either walk away, if that's not possible neutralise the offender using the minimum of force, its that simple.

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Postby pollyminaz » Fri, 20 Jun 2008 2:13 pm

ksl wrote:To retaliate is a childish immature act, of misunderstanding culture and the language. and reverting to a primitive local yob, doesn't help the situation, it just provokes it.

Although diplomacy is an art, for those, with self respect for others. The saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but calling names doesn't harm me" is a wise saying.



Well said! :D

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Postby maneo » Tue, 24 Jun 2008 7:22 am

earthfriendly wrote:
Way_Fast_Whitey wrote:I lived in Taiwan where they don't call Caucasians "ang mo"; they call us "big nose" so, I would just call them "rice dick" ! :lol:


Many Chinese enjoy eating rice though! Ooops, sorry for being crude, unlady-like and derailing your post :oops: .

Please, continue.

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Postby Petales Soufflez! » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 3:23 am

Hee one interesting thing about many Japanese men (I side track), they look shy shy polite polite on the outside but apparently some can be downright kinky once they forget to be shy. Many a times when I was a poor student I had wished I could sell my used panties to those shops specialising in reselling them to Japanese clients... :P
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Postby hk203 » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 1:29 pm

Petales Soufflez! wrote:Hee one interesting thing about many Japanese men (I side track), they look shy shy polite polite on the outside but apparently some can be downright kinky once they forget to be shy. Many a times when I was a poor student I had wished I could sell my used panties to those shops specialising in reselling them to Japanese clients... :P


OMG...maybe because they are too stress out at their work they become abit coo coo? lolol By the way, do you still have stock now? LOLOLOL

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Postby Petales Soufflez! » Wed, 25 Jun 2008 7:59 pm

Back to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they have gained access recently to photos taken just after the bombings that have never been seen by the public before. Apparently the US government censored almost all photos taken immediately after the bombings in those days and stopped them from being published.

What we've seen in the past few decades were "tame" compared to the reality of the horror and vice versa. So the bombs stopped the war, but at what price.

Meanwhile, the Japs have apologised for WW2 in general but I believe that they are still denying that the Rape of Nanking ever took place.

Having said that, all that's in the past, we have moved on and hopefully would not commit the same horrors again.
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Postby EADG » Sat, 28 Jun 2008 9:24 am

"Japs" ?

interesting choice of words from someone preaching horrors of the past and moving on

Petales Soufflez! wrote:Back to Hiroshima and Nagasaki....Meanwhile, the Japs ... all that's in the past, we have moved on and hopefully would not commit the same horrors again.


with that you just set sensibilities back about 60 years
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Postby cavalier » Sat, 28 Jun 2008 5:01 pm

EADG wrote:"Japs" ?

interesting choice of words from someone preaching horrors of the past and moving on



Japs isn't considered a slur in Singapore unlike in some other places. I still cringe when I hear people use it though.

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Postby Petales Soufflez! » Sat, 28 Jun 2008 5:17 pm

Hello? Is "Japs" a bad word? Not that I know of. I've always used it as an abbreviation. Aussies for Australians, Frenchies for French (in this case we lengthen :lol: )...Absolutely no bad thoughts behind.

If it's a negative word I would be interested to know why.

In Singapore we lived thru the Japanese Occupation and we have already moved on - in case nobody noticed. Jap pop stars, movies, music, mangas, food etc are hot here. We watch the annual Red and White Song Festival. We embrace some of their culture and do not just think of them and say, "Japs" with some evil thought behind (though I admit I may still have kinky thoughts...).

Whereas some other countries may have to live with the horrors of the A bomb inflicted on the people. :P
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Postby kaseyma » Sat, 28 Jun 2008 7:34 pm

^ It's not "politically correct" in the US, where it had previously been used as a derogatory slur.

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Postby Levikane » Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:10 am

kaseyma wrote:^ It's not "politically correct" in the US, where it had previously been used as a derogatory slur.


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