I would personally put the rope around his kneck!

[Plavt]

But benefits not paying for drugs?? At the pub I worked in (between Warwick ave and St Johns Wood) the punters used to tell me they could get a hit for a fiver!

No doubt that is possible but this is not the norm. Assuming or implying benefits are used solely to purchase drugs is a big mistake and one the media are only too guilty of. £5 to somebody on benefits is a lot of money contrary to what you may have heard.

[ksl]

But benefits not paying for drugs?? At the pub I worked in (between Warwick ave and St Johns Wood) the punters used to tell me they could get a hit for a fiver!

No doubt that is possible but this is not the norm. Assuming or implying benefits are used solely to purchase drugs is a big mistake and one the media are only too guilty of. £5 to somebody on benefits is a lot of money contrary to what you may have heard.

Ah but Plavt old friend, many are cheating the system too and working black and getting benefits and it's not a minority, in my area, most of the crooks do it, they are also cleaning windows, working in fast food outlets, chinese restaurants, and probably many doing ID fraud.

They use our city for the rehab of all prisoners in the North West, including the one from Yorkshire, and also built a new prison farm, well not so new now...but the place was targeted for prison rehab, after they had done their time, because all the housing estates, were half empty because of vandals, and anti social behaviour.

In stead of flatting the troubled estates, they pumped in 3 million pound on rehab training programs and rehoused all the prisoners in Lancaster, in the houses government couldn't sell, under the right to buy scheme....like i said, no one wanted to buy, when the dumping started, so i lost my house too, which i had paid for. I couldn't sell it, and it was eventually crashed I lost over 60k in 1999. basically all i had worked for. a double whammy having being divorced in 1977, and lost all then too, in the courts, because the judge said, i was in the military and i didn't want for anything..with food and accommodation provided. the wife got it all, plus a military payment book, i used to be left with 8 pounds a week, after 10 years service of a 22 year contract. ha! I can laugh now, but that was my career out of the window, and do you know how long it took me to save the money to buy my contract back, on 8 quid a week. almost two years of poverty. to put the nail in the coffin while she was out living it up in nightclubs on my wages.

Just to shock you all the UK is a single womans gold mine, if they know how to pull the strings, the idea is too have kids with all different men, and they can claim benefits, child allowance and make the men pay.

I know because i have a daughter getting 700 pounds a week, that's how bloody ludicrous the UK is. But its mostly alimony and even though i wasn't allowed to raise them, who do they come to...when they need anything! right, now I have to show i am a father, and its expected, otherwise I'm a bad father. I wouldn't mind if they showed some respect, but kids don't in these situations, they only blame you for not being there for them. The UK system is shit and total chaos! and most expats will find that out too, when they return.

[Plavt]

Ah but Plavt old friend, many are cheating the system too and working black and getting benefits and it's not a minority,

They may be prolific in certain areas but cheats however do not make up the majority of claimants. I don' know if you saw my other posts but 5 billion in benefits goes unclaimed ever year - recent news item.

[ksl]

Ah but Plavt old friend, many are cheating the system too and working black and getting benefits and it's not a minority,

They may be prolific in certain areas but cheats however do not make up the majority of claimants.

I have no idea, to be honest, but i agree with the prolific area's, I did start ranting a bit, makes my blood boil, it's almost always the innocent one's, that are made to suffer, that's my point, I know so many genuine ones, that have had their welfare stopped on suspicion or tip off, by nosey old parkers in one culde-sac where my sister lives who is on old age pension, not one of them work legally, all are drawing checks, and I would say 4 out of 10 have leased cars by the government with tax and insurance paid, and they are all single women, with a stream of kids.

Then come midnight, its fighting shouting and boozing, because they are all on the door steps socialising and all guys from other estates turn up, its a nightmare, kids ayoung as 4 are running around well after midnight. The police do nothing.

Only one that i know of is genuine on there, although everyone calls eachother behind eachothers backs, I'm glad i'm out of the place, although i visit, that's enough for me.