Dual Citizenship

[AmbrosiaJ]

I am new to this forum and cannot PM anyone until i have posted the required number of posts which they do not specify of course. If anyone or Taxico too,has the answer to my original question regarding Taxico's post about renewing SIN passport etc, pls PM me if u dont want to write your answer in public. Or email me at tantalizingthoughts at g mail dot com .I would like to hear from you asap;-) Thanks

[TennoHekka]

Be careful. If you're still liable for reservist training, you MUST notify the Sg side of your change of citizenship, or some bureaucrat may decide to use that against you when you come back to tag you with a charge or two.

[Tessa T]

well. my singapore passport's up for renewal very very soon and i intend to lie on that bloody application about having no other citizenships.

hopefully i won't be hauled off by men in blue when i return to visit singapore later this year... i honestly don't think anything will happen. oh well...

*twiddle thumbs*

Hi Taxico
I know this was posted some time back and I'm hoping you are still part of the forum.
Jut curious to know if you did appy for the singapore passport and if you declared your dual citizenship.

Also would be good to hear from anyone else who may have experience with this.

Thank you
T

[taxico]

Hi Taxico
I know this was posted some time back and I'm hoping you are still part of the forum.
Jut curious to know if you did appy for the singapore passport and if you declared your dual citizenship.

Also would be good to hear from anyone else who may have experience with this.

this reply is a little bit late - i've been busy...! i've been in singapore for the most part of 2010.

i currently have 2 passports. i personally know a few other people with two passports. i know one person with THREE passports. not all are male.

none of us declared having an alternative citizenship/travel document. my male friends have done their National Service. a few of them currently reside and work in singapore.

none of us have been dragged away by the authorities and caned by a burly prison warden.

mind you, it IS breaking the law, but i've done it with my eyes wide open.

i don't claim to be fully prepared for the consequence of being caught, but so far so good. i'd do it again (i'd probably have to, in a few years' time).

you pays yer moneys and you takes yer chances.

[taxico]

a personal anecdote...

when i flew into Changi in january, i arrived at a ridiculous hour and was really bleary-eyed (can you say "ambien?")

at passport control i took out the wrong passport but caught myself before i handed it over.

the immigration official definitely saw both red and blue but she didn't bat an eyelid.

i joked with her about the candy bowl beign empty: she had friendly replies and welcomed me home with a smile.

[Tessa T]

Thank you for getting back to me. This really does help and is a weight of my mind. I do value my Singapore citizenship and am not in a position to give it up just yet.

Appreciate the feedback.

T

[sundaymorningstaple]

I forgot about this link I picked up a year or so ago, but I think anybody who has dual citizenship (especially young adults - 18-21 who inherited dual citizenship due to mixed nationality parents (US - Singapore specifically). Also, it is a good idea to pay close attention on the IRS tax reporting matters as well. Dual Citizens are required to file US tax returns even if they have never been to or lived in the US as long as they are aware that they are US Citizens (so if your parents have gotten you a US passport, the jigs up!)

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/

For US/Foreign military service:

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/policies.html#military The contained link to the following document is broken so I've given you the actual new link below:

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship ... p_780.html

The US State Department page with lots of links pertaining to Dual Citizenship among other things.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship ... p_782.html

[JesseSFO1]

I live in the Bay Area. I travel back to Singapore to visit elderly parents twice a year.

Here is my question about dual citizenship.

From SFO to SIN, I have no issue with entering Changi Airport with Singapore passport.

When I leave Singapore to return back to San Francisco, I used my Singapore passport at Changi Airport. The custom always asked me to show my USA greencard.

If you have America Citizenship, you won't have a greencard. If you don't mind me asking, how do you travel back to America with Singapore passport?

[Mad Scientist]

Singappore is one of the countries that is under VWP program
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/witho ... _1990.html

[JesseSFO1]

If you are an American, you can't apply for VWP program.

The question still remains, how do you travel from Singapore to American using Singapore passport?

When you present your Singapore passport at Changi Airport, they will ask you for greencard since your final destination is American.

[Mad Scientist]

If you are an American, you can't apply for VWP program.

The question still remains, how do you travel from Singapore to American using Singapore passport?

When you present your Singapore passport at Changi Airport, they will ask you for greencard since your final destination is American.

Yes you are right

MHO, those who travel here and having dual citizenship in US and SG is risking themselves by perjuring when filling up the DE card. Which means they enter here with US PP and travel back with US PP too

[sundaymorningstaple]

Short of purjuring yourself, you can always buy a round trip ticket - SIN_SFO_SIN. My kids have never been questioned, but in our case our trips originate from Singapore and not the other way around.

[taxico]

The question still remains, how do you travel from Singapore to American using Singapore passport?

When you present your Singapore passport at Changi Airport, they will ask you for greencard since your final destination is American.

under normal circumstances you will need to have applied for the ESTA on your singapore passport before your trip (free of charge IIRC). you do not need to show any green card.

but if you're a holder of 2 passports (eg, singaporean under 21 years of age) there is a proper way to travel and it has been answered in a different thread.

(for a variety of reasons, i'm not digging it up for you)

the only caveat not found in that thread is that you must advise your ticketing agent accordingly prior to the ticket being issued.

[sundaymorningstaple]

I believe since September 2009 you need to pay $14 for the ESTA now.

[JesseSFO1]

Thanks, I am in female in 30's.
My problem is that my round trip tickets start from SFO-SIN, SIN to SFO.

If it is SIN-SFO, SFO-SIN, then I will not be asked to show my proof of residency in America, which is my greencard