Plavt wrote:Sms,
I think you need to re-read the OP's post he says;
for young men who have done their NS and leave for another country,
And just how would they find out? Seriously. Governments do not share immigration or citizen registries with each other, so no, unless you go get yourself on Interpol's red alert list or something, they will not find out.xerces wrote:taxico, it does not matter whether there have been previous cases of successful convictions for lying on the passport renewal form. What matters is that if you do it, you will have committed a criminal offence. Knowing how efficient Singapore is, getting caught would just be a matter of time. I would not tempt them, if I were you.
Well, for one, if such a person were to renounce his Singapore citizenship one day, ICA will be able to know when he actually obtained his foreign citizenship. That information would be available from the foreign citizenship certificate which must be submitted to ICA when applying to renounce Singapore citizenship. ICA can then check whether that person has ever applied for passport renewal since the date stated on the foreign citizenship certificate. If yes, and that person had declared falsely that he did not hold another passport at that time, bingo, game over. Application to renounce may be refused till they have prosecuted him for false declaration, and slapped a hefty fine and/or some jail time on him. If that person does not come back to Singapore to be prosecuted, he may have to live with the fact that he may never be able to step foot on Singapore soil ever again, including for transit. This could be a major inconvenience seeing as how Singapore is a major air hub for the region.jpatokal wrote: And just how would they find out? Seriously. Governments do not share immigration or citizen registries with each other, so no, unless you go get yourself on Interpol's red alert list or something, they will not find out.
(Not that this makes it legal in Singapore, mind you.)
Yes, but most other countries do not equire you to renounce citizenship formally. Example: I became a naturalized US citizen. I pledged an oath of allegiance to the US but was not required to renounce either my Canadian or UK citizenship. Later US Supreme Court rulings upheld the right of naturalized citizens to hold multiple passports.xerces wrote:Well, for one, if such a person were to renounce his Singapore citizenship one day, ICA will be able to know when he actually obtained his foreign citizenship. That information would be available from the foreign citizenship certificate which must be submitted to ICA when applying to renounce Singapore citizenship.
There's a classic Zen koan which involves a master whacking a student on a head with a stick whenever he complains that thinking about enlightenment is hard, but I'll just quote the punchline:xerces wrote:Well, for one, if such a person were to renounce his Singapore citizenship one day, ICA will be able to know when he actually obtained his foreign citizenship.jpatokal wrote: And just how would they find out? Seriously. Governments do not share immigration or citizen registries with each other, so no, unless you go get yourself on Interpol's red alert list or something, they will not find out.
Strong Eagle wrote:Yes, but most other countries do not equire you to renounce citizenship formally. Example: I became a naturalized US citizen. I pledged an oath of allegiance to the US but was not required to renounce either my Canadian or UK citizenship. Later US Supreme Court rulings upheld the right of naturalized citizens to hold multiple passports.xerces wrote:Well, for one, if such a person were to renounce his Singapore citizenship one day, ICA will be able to know when he actually obtained his foreign citizenship. That information would be available from the foreign citizenship certificate which must be submitted to ICA when applying to renounce Singapore citizenship.
I agree. It may not be legal but if you travel in and out of Singapore with your Singapore passport, no one will be the wiser that you have an additional passport.
rojaksing,rojaksing wrote: Thanks, Strong Eagle. Thats exactly what I was looking for - ppl with real experience of multiple passports. Are there anyone else out there to share their experience and first hand knowledge. There must be many out there in such situations.... yet, in view of the Singapore government's official stand on citizenship, the higher-ups must be closely an eye? If they do come down hard, its not difficult to guess how many more will leave, not by choice but of last resort. It really is the issue of Dual Citizenship (for convenience and economic reasons) and not one of loyalty, especially those who fulfill their NS duties. What say ye?
Just don't kick yourself too hard - when you're sitting in prison or borrowing money for the hefty fine or banned from setting foot in Singapore again - for taking your chances based on random posts from total strangers on an internet forum.rojaksing wrote:Thats exactly what I was looking for - ppl with real experience of multiple passports. Are there anyone else out there to share their experience and first hand knowledge.
What say ye?
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