Hot chicks, cheap drinks, cool crowd.

[cafecafe]

Drinks are never cheap in SG, but there are a lot of party places.
The places mentioned above are a good start (St James Powerstation, Zouks and others at Clarke Quay, Dempsey Road, etc.).
Time to explore.

St James Power Station?
God, what a boring place. People just stand aroung holding a drink and when you look at someone to make a bit of eye contact then most or at least the local girls, look away, as in, I don't know you so I have no interest in getting to know you..

Plus the fact that I was told to take off my cap by security, you go out
to have fun, and you're told you must take off your cap? nah... St. Jmes Power Station: NOT FOR ME.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Ah, banana, it's good to see your acerbic wit has not diminished one bit!

[banana]

I'm old and set in my ways

[melbournejustice]

RUBBISH: 'We all want cleaner toilets, fairer, humane policies, and that only comes, at the moment, from the West' (see above).

What is so humane about Guantanamo and detention without trial? You also make it sound as if Westerners are the only people who can think. Actually, the World Toilet Organization (WTO) was founded by a Singaporean named Jack Sim in 2001. Hence, the international movement for 'cleaner toilets' did not begin in the West, but in Singapore.


My view is that Asians generally envy Western technology, but not Western lifestyle. So, just because a Singaporean talks with an American accent does not necessarily mean that he wants to live like an American. Singaporeans, by and large, are still conservative by Western standards.

[sundaymorningstaple]

What is so humane about Guantanamo and detention without trial? You also make it sound as if Westerners are the only people who can think. Actually, the World Toilet Organization (WTO) was founded by a Singaporean named Jack Sim in 2001. Hence, the international movement for 'cleaner toilets' did not begin in the West, but in Singapore.

Interesting comparison consider this country's own history of ISA and detention without trial (of it's own citizens as well). Course they cannot just walk out of Guantanamo like a certain detainee did here recently. As far as the WTO is concerned, you are correct, it was started here. And just as unfortunate it's had just about as much impact here as the vaunted Courtesy Campaign which has been running for 30+ years now. Next to nothing. Go into ANY Hawker Centre or Kopitiam to a toilet ANY TIME of the day or night.

While I have been seeing some very small gradual changes, this place still needs to learn to have a sense of community where all are not continually suspicious of others of differing races. They live together but only because of being forced to by the government. They rarely interact with one another aside from occasionally acknowledging their existence in passing. At least from what I've seen over my past 25 years here (the last 10 in my own HDB flat).

This also causes resentment as the minorities are discriminated against because they cannot live wherever they would like (regardless of the amount of money they may have) in 95% of the housing units in Singapore due to the "forced" integration. While the reasons for it is understood (not laudable though), the policy is racist. As such, it just deep seats the resentment into the hearts of the minorities. The other problem like the toilets and the void decks is a direct result of the idea that if I don't own it, it's not my responsibility. Which leads to the litter in the void decks and pee in the elevators and rubbish all over the elevator lobbies of HDB flats. Not much sense of community values here.

Another aspect is the "beach/park cleanups" always be touted by the Gov't here and played up in the news. The only reason that these seem to be effective and have lots of youngsters partaking is that the only they will participate is because they get points in the schooling system for doing so. It's not altruistic. Nothing is done unless there is quid pro quo. This is why you get groups like the US Navy sailors who go to Boys Town every time one of the big US ships does a port call here. They go to places like that and give of their free time to help the disadvantaged by doing repairs & maintenance of the facilities there. All they get from it is a warm fuzzy feeling.

Interesting........

[banana]

This also causes resentment as the minorities are discriminated against because they cannot live wherever they would like (regardless of the amount of money they may have) in 95% of the housing units in Singapore due to the "forced" integration. While the reasons for it is understood (not laudable though), the policy is racist. As such, it just deep seats the resentment into the hearts of the minorities. The other problem like the toilets and the void decks is a direct result of the idea that if I don't own it, it's not my responsibility. Which leads to the litter in the void decks and pee in the elevators and rubbish all over the elevator lobbies of HDB flats. Not much sense of community values here.

Eh...while not a fan of the incumbent party's social engineering policies, is forced integration such a bad thing? Consider places like Harlem in New York, Wolverhampton in the UK, or Footscray in Melbourne. Some of these areas, if you didn't belong to that particular ethnic group you'd think twice before walking through alone. At least here, you still have your Geylang Serai, Little India (forget Chinatown, every city has a chinatown) et al.

I don't think the rationale is so much racist as political. And that I have a problem with.

But we digress...HOT CHICKS! CHEAP DRINKS! COOL CROWDS!

[melbournejustice]

SMS

I have refrained from rebutting your numerous claims of Singaporean inferiority for the main reason that you have not answered why Asian males need to go overseas to find their 'maleness' - whatever that means.

Without confronting your jaundiced views about Singapore and Asia in general head-on, there would be no end to your rant about how stupid, immoral, decadent and uncouth Singaporeans generally are.

I leave the more discerning readers to make up their own conclusions about Asian inferiority.

[hiking out]

sms,

resentful of living amongst the unwashed masses?

[banana]

hey who you calling unwashed? I'll have you know I shower at least once a week!

[jpatokal]

Similarly, Westerners with no knowledge of Mandarin in China would be equally seen as 'awkward' in the Chinese context. Language matters.

So why is it that white men in China, Japan, Korea, Thailand etc with zero local language ability manage to pull local totty in days?

Second, Asians, particularly Chinese, are not shy. In fact, I would go as far as to say that they are generally more comfortable with their sexuality than Westerners.

Bwahaha! Certainly not in Singapore.

Asian women also generally do not feel too much of a need to flaunt their body, boobs, hips, etc.

Kinda hard to flaunt what they don't have

[banana]

Similarly, Westerners with no knowledge of Mandarin in China would be equally seen as 'awkward' in the Chinese context. Language matters.

So why is it that white men in China, Japan, Korea, Thailand etc with zero local language ability manage to pull local totty in days?

money talks a universal language. I'm sure melbournejustice was referring to the other type of "totty".

Second, Asians, particularly Chinese, are not shy. In fact, I would go as far as to say that they are generally more comfortable with their sexuality than Westerners.

Bwahaha! Certainly not in Singapore.

You need to get out more. Or look a little deeper.

Asian women also generally do not feel too much of a need to flaunt their body, boobs, hips, etc.

Kinda hard to flaunt what they don't have

This one I sorta have to agree with you. Although improved nutrition (thank you growth hormone laced chickens!) and plastic surgery have changed things some.

[Paddle]

Quote:
Asian women also generally do not feel too much of a need to flaunt their body, boobs, hips, etc.

Kinda hard to flaunt what they don't have


Ha!Ha! I have to laugh at this one.

[maneo]

St James Power Station?
God, what a boring place. People just stand aroung holding a drink and when you look at someone to make a bit of eye contact then most or at least the local girls, look away, as in, I don't know you so I have no interest in getting to know you..

Plus the fact that I was told to take off my cap by security, you go out
to have fun, and you're told you must take off your cap? nah... St. Jmes Power Station: NOT FOR ME.

Let's see.
You need to wear a cap at a dance club to have a good time.
You think girls should just feel weak at the knees the moment you choose to look at them.

Yup, St James Power Station is not for you.
Maybe you should try the pubs at Orchard Towers.
You should get good responses to your eye contact there.



For the OP, there are actually several different rooms at St James Power Station catering to different tastes.
The place is usually packed.
Guess that means it's OK for everyone else who's there.

[jamesy]

St James Power Station?
God, what a boring place. People just stand aroung holding a drink and when you look at someone to make a bit of eye contact then most or at least the local girls, look away, as in, I don't know you so I have no interest in getting to know you..

Plus the fact that I was told to take off my cap by security, you go out
to have fun, and you're told you must take off your cap? nah... St. Jmes Power Station: NOT FOR ME.

Let's see.
You need to wear a cap at a dance club to have a good time.
You think girls should just feel weak at the knees the moment you choose to look at them.

Yup, St James Power Station is not for you.
Maybe you should try the pubs at Orchard Towers.
You should get good responses to your eye contact there.



For the OP, there are actually several different rooms at St James Power Station catering to different tastes.
The place is usually packed.
Guess that means it's OK for everyone else who's there.

LOL

[jpatokal]

So why is it that white men in China, Japan, Korea, Thailand etc with zero local language ability manage to pull local totty in days?

money talks a universal language. I'm sure melbournejustice was referring to the other type of "totty".

No, I wasn't referring to rent-a-girlfriends, very few long-term Western expats in Asia seem to need to resort to them.

Second, Asians, particularly Chinese, are not shy. In fact, I would go as far as to say that they are generally more comfortable with their sexuality than Westerners.

Bwahaha! Certainly not in Singapore.

You need to get out more. Or look a little deeper.

Oh, c'mon. This is the country that bans lifelike dildos and feels the need to censor the illustrations on sex toys! Sure, the SPG set has seen it all, but I've seen local guys literally turn a bright shade of red because a woman sitting at the lunch table used the word "penis". And very, very few locals would be openly comfortable with their sexuality if it involves anything other than plain vanilla heterosexuality.