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My Permanent Residency Has Been Approved!

Postby Saint » Fri, 25 Apr 2008 5:06 pm

Well that was the easy bit over with and I must give high praise to the Singapore Oversea's Mission in London for helping/dealing with my application. My application for PR was probably quite rare in it's circumstances as Mrs S (Singaporean) and I aren't currently living let alone working in Singapore and I've never had anything more than a 30 day Visitors Visa!

And now the questions for the fountain of knowledge (SMS) this forum has.

1) The approval letter says I have to complete the PR process within 2 months of the date of the letter which was 11th April (Bloody snail post!). Are we able to extend this time limit? It's a bit difficult just to pop down to the ICA!

2) How long does the process take including medical etc etc, how long a trip to Singapore should I plan for?

3) How long can one remain outside of Singapore and still maintain their PR status? Is it for the lenght of you re-entry permit, 5/10 years?

Thanks in advance blah blah blah etc

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Postby ProvenPracticalFlexible » Fri, 25 Apr 2008 5:53 pm

Saint wrote:Well that was the easy bit over with and I must give high praise to the Singapore Oversea's Mission in London for helping/dealing with my application. My application for PR was probably quite rare in it's circumstances as Mrs S (Singaporean) and I aren't currently living let alone working in Singapore and I've never had anything more than a 30 day Visitors Visa!


I think those ones are getting more and more common, got mine in the same way.

1) The approval letter says I have to complete the PR process within 2 months of the date of the letter which was 11th April (Bloody snail post!). Are we able to extend this time limit? It's a bit difficult just to pop down to the ICA!


Don’t think so, but you can always ask from them if you can do the paper work at Singapore Overseas mission. I think they send a standard letter and assume all PR applicants are in Singapore.

2) How long does the process take including medical etc etc, how long a trip to Singapore should I plan for?


I think in theory one day would be enough. What you need to do is to go to ICA and get the re-entry permit stamp on your passport and apply for IC card. I guess it is still better also to stay until your IC card is ready to be picked up. When I got mine it took less than 1 week, I think I applied on Thursday and I picked up IC card next week Tuesday. I had reserved full 2 weeks, just to be on safe side (used to the European Civil service where they send you away empty handed at least once or twice just to show who’s the boss).

Note that you can do your medical before coming to Singapore, just print the form from ICA site and visit any GP in UK, and get HIV-test and chest X-ray for tuberculosis. I did mine that way to avoid waiting lab results in Singapore.

3) How long can one remain outside of Singapore and still maintain their PR status? Is it for the lenght of you re-entry permit, 5/10 years?


Yes, though you would have to consider coming back a bit earlier if you wish to re-new it. If you stay away until last month of you re-entry permit and do not pay any income tax etc in Singapore, it might be difficult to convince them to re-new it.

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Postby maneo » Fri, 25 Apr 2008 8:31 pm

Saint wrote:My application for PR was probably quite rare in it's circumstances as Mrs S (Singaporean) and I aren't currently living let alone working in Singapore . . . .

Seems like things have changed quite a bit over the past few years.

Saint wrote:1) The approval letter says I have to complete the PR process within 2 months of the date of the letter which was 11th April (Bloody snail post!). Are we able to extend this time limit? It's a bit difficult just to pop down to the ICA!

Far as I know they're quite firm about this.
Had to come back to get mine renewed within a 2 month window, too.

Saint wrote:2) How long does the process take including medical etc etc, how long a trip to Singapore should I plan for?

First time around 8 years ago required 2 visits, but it sounds like they've streamlined things.
For my re-entry renewal it took only 1 day, which went just the same as mentioned above.

Saint wrote:3) How long can one remain outside of Singapore and still maintain their PR status? Is it for the lenght of you re-entry permit, 5/10 years?

You can try to renew the re-entry permit just prior to expiration.
They may allow you to extend, but it seemed like you had to promise to return soon. Might have been easy if I had worked for a Singaporean company, but I didn't.
Unfortunately, I let my re-entry permit lapse -- at the time had no immediate plan to retun. Situation changed several months later.
Getting the re-entry permit renewed after the lapse was a pain.

One issue might be whether you have a local address for official mailings.
Check to see if offical documents can be sent to overseas addresses.

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Postby Saint » Mon, 28 Apr 2008 4:14 pm

Thanks for your replies and advice.

I have been in touch with the Overseas Mission in London about extending the period and they just asked me to send them a letter addressed to the ICA stating reason for extension and by when you are likely to complete the process. The lady at the Overseas Mission is going to deal with it on my behalf.

I thought about getting medical done in UK first but it could be a bit risky, prefer to have it done in Singapore by a Doctor who know what to do. We've got my BIL already finding out the best place to get it done under the same roof.

We're planning to give ourselves 2.5 weeks in Singapore, get medical booked and done first day I arrive so should give plenty of time to get results and complete PR process, get re-entry permit and IC card!

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Postby maneo » Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:33 pm

The staff at the overseas missions and consulates can be quite helpful.

Congratulations!

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Postby Superglide » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:53 am

Congrats Sir Saint! :D

So does this mean you move over to the little red dot soon?
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Postby Saint » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 4:26 am

Superglide wrote:Congrats Sir Saint! :D

So does this mean you move over to the little red dot soon?


Oh yes Sir, not sure when it will be for definite yet

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Postby ksl » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 5:13 pm

Saint wrote:Thanks for your replies and advice.

I have been in touch with the Overseas Mission in London about extending the period and they just asked me to send them a letter addressed to the ICA stating reason for extension and by when you are likely to complete the process. The lady at the Overseas Mission is going to deal with it on my behalf.

I thought about getting medical done in UK first but it could be a bit risky, prefer to have it done in Singapore by a Doctor who know what to do. We've got my BIL already finding out the best place to get it done under the same roof.

We're planning to give ourselves 2.5 weeks in Singapore, get medical booked and done first day I arrive so should give plenty of time to get results and complete PR process, get re-entry permit and IC card!


Congrats! There is a 6 month time frame for medicals, however play it safe and have it done here, doesn't cost much, can be done in one day, providing all paper work is on the ball.

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Postby Saint » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 5:30 pm

ksl wrote:
Saint wrote:Thanks for your replies and advice.

I have been in touch with the Overseas Mission in London about extending the period and they just asked me to send them a letter addressed to the ICA stating reason for extension and by when you are likely to complete the process. The lady at the Overseas Mission is going to deal with it on my behalf.

I thought about getting medical done in UK first but it could be a bit risky, prefer to have it done in Singapore by a Doctor who know what to do. We've got my BIL already finding out the best place to get it done under the same roof.

We're planning to give ourselves 2.5 weeks in Singapore, get medical booked and done first day I arrive so should give plenty of time to get results and complete PR process, get re-entry permit and IC card!


Congrats! There is a 6 month time frame for medicals, however play it safe and have it done here, doesn't cost much, can be done in one day, providing all paper work is on the ball.


So are you saying I don't have to complete the medical before going to the ICA to complete the PR process?

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 5:38 pm

Saint wrote:So are you saying I don't have to complete the medical before going to the ICA to complete the PR process?


No. What he is saying is that the medical exam cannot be more than 6 months old before you go down to pick up your PR. You will be required to provide the medical exam info as part of the process.

I can't see why you cannot have it done outside Singapore. Choose a reputable physician/lab that can be readily verified by ICA. HIV and TB tests are pretty standard. The only benefit I can see to getting the medical done in Singapore is that if you go down to Mount Elizabeth or someplace similar, ICA is well familiar with them and you remove any possibility of delay while your lab results are verified as coming from a legitimate lab.

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Postby Saint » Tue, 29 Apr 2008 7:11 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
Saint wrote:So are you saying I don't have to complete the medical before going to the ICA to complete the PR process?


No. What he is saying is that the medical exam cannot be more than 6 months old before you go down to pick up your PR. You will be required to provide the medical exam info as part of the process.

I can't see why you cannot have it done outside Singapore. Choose a reputable physician/lab that can be readily verified by ICA. HIV and TB tests are pretty standard. The only benefit I can see to getting the medical done in Singapore is that if you go down to Mount Elizabeth or someplace similar, ICA is well familiar with them and you remove any possibility of delay while your lab results are verified as coming from a legitimate lab.


I see what KSL means now.

I'm going to get the medical done in Singapore as I don't trust UK NHS to do it right to be honest. As you said, I'd prefer somewhere in Singapore who are used to doing these medicals day in day out and are on the ICA's list. Someone has recommended Raffles Hospital at Bugis as they have a special PR Medical Package which takes an hour and results back in a few days.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 30 Apr 2008 8:56 am

Raffles does it, so does Mt Elizabeth and Parkway (Glen Eagles). Most of them are set up for PR medical exams.

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Postby ksl » Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:06 am

SE is correct, however it's much cheaper through the local GP, in the heartlands, results take about 3 days, for blood tests, X-ray while you wait in Toa Payoh, you don't need to pay the expensive hospital prices.

All local GP's do the blood, and medical and they send you to the cheapest place for x-rays providing you ask them. otherwise because you are from the west, they may just think you expect the highest service, when its not required, the best specialists are located in these hospitals mentioned!

I had my heart checked at Mount E, and it was damn expensive for 20 minutes work 150 pound, although the best heart specialist in Singapore.

Medical isn't really a big deal, there is a set procedure which is listed on the form for the GP.

We had the PR exam at our local GP in heartlands!


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