No subletting allowed?

[frenzal]

Methinks thou dost expect too much. They don't have to provide anything at all. I can't think of any other country in the world that has such a scheme.

Yes, but most countries in the world also have a large amount of studio apartments available for low prices. Although, I agree: I do expect too much. I just think it's inefficient to prevent expats from subletting out subsidised housing if it's not for a profit.

Most young expats won't be excluded from the scheme as you can have 2 Co-occupiers of the unit (no family needed) in a 3 room flat.

I though you had already downloaded the word or pdf application file from their website. Had you done so, you would not have had to ask all these questions (unless you are having some problems with reading comprehension that is - but I don't think that's the problem at all).

Wait, but I've been told in this thread that I can't have any co-occupiers (or so I thought) - for example, I couldn't have someone staying with me who buys the groceries.

A three room HDB flat has two bedrooms. If two Singles share a SHiFT flat what's the problem? As long as both are employed legally and earn at least $2500/mo.

Now what's the problem and why is a special scheme that nobody else in the world has not "fair". I'd say they are being more than fair.

I did look at the application previously, but it really does not tell me that I can share the apartment with others in the future. For example, I start by renting out the place from the govt, and 3 months later want another person to share with me (who is on an employment pass and earns over $2.5k). Am I allowed, then, to have them become a co-occupier a few months after I settle down, and find them through the classified section, for instance? The documents on the site don't exactly explain this.

I thought that allowing others to stay in my apartment, regardless of whether or not I take their money is subletting? I'm quite confused about all the terminology.

Basically, when I'll be going up to Singapore, I won't have anyone in mind who can share with me. I would want to find someone to share with after I start renting the apartment.

[sundaymorningstaple]

For example, I start by renting out the place from the govt, and 3 months later want another person to share with me (who is on an employment pass and earns over $2.5k). Am I allowed, then, to have them become a co-occupier a few months after I settle down, and find them through the classified section, for instance? The documents on the site don't exactly explain this.

I thought that allowing others to stay in my apartment, regardless of whether or not I take their money is subletting? I'm quite confused about all the terminology.

Basically, when I'll be going up to Singapore, I won't have anyone in mind who can share with me. I would want to find someone to share with after I start renting the apartment.

If you read the codicil carefully, it tells you that yes you can have them later BUT they have to be approved by JTC and their decision is final and without explanation. So the way I read it is yes but..........

4. I will inform JTC/ Managing Agent of any subsequent changes to the information supplied in the form, such as the size of my family, authorized co-occupiers, change of contact address, employment, etc.

JTC reserves the right to accept or reject any application at our sole and absolute discretion without furnishing any reason whatsoever for the rejection.

If you have to notify JTC about a change of size of family and they approve then it's not obviously subletting (you will note the key word here is family) or authorized co-occupiers (which while looking like subletting they are co-occupiers which means that they are renting from JTC as it were as they have to be vetted and approved by them.

Of course all of this ia academic as there are none to be had at this point in time anyway. Also, you will find probably better accomodations in a Private HDB Flat by renting a master bedroom for 700~800/mo. Not only that the locations are probably better.

[frenzal]

fantastic! thanks very much for that. you've cleared everything up