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Post by satrap75 » Fri, 18 Apr 2008 9:22 pm

hi kimtaymour

i used to be working in the IT industry. in the IT industry here in SG, there is always a need for people. though there maybe a lot of people on VP or SVP passes coming to SG to look for IT jobs, i would say a majority of them doesn't have the right experience and skill sets.

if you have the right experience and skill sets, i believe you should not have a problem finding a IT job here. however, do not expect to get high paying salary here. with your knowledge of 6 different languages, it will be a plus for you.

wish you all the best in your job hunting in SG.

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Post by quidsin » Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:08 pm

what a load of 'merde'

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Post by someids » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:32 am

"in the IT industry here in SG, there is always a need for people"

Partially because IT industry in here has a high turnover rate hehe :D Just my observation..

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:40 am

What good is speaking 6 languages if nobody else speaks them? Turnover? What do you expect when a polytechnic diploma holder comes out of the poly with a MCSE and more and is willing to work for 1600/mo? It's called supply & demand. I just hired to S pass holders that have computer degrees to work as technicians in the field (pest control). Why? Cause they cannot find jobs paying even S pass wages.
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Post by kimtaymour » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:05 am

satrap thanks alot ^-^, thats a very encouraging feedback. Absolutely true what you said if those looking for IT jobs doesn't have the right exp. then no chances. I am having some years of experience and good certs to back me up + the languages so i'll make a move and try to. The only thing i'll pray for is to get my hand on a job of any kind a start then i can slowly look around.

About the salary that's not a big deal to me asl ing as am wokring in singapore then am fine with it. Anything with 2000SGD can do shouldn't be gready mah ^^
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Post by Superglide » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 4:00 am

Kimwhatsoever taymour thingy,

I bet you fit in nicely,

No one needs english in Singapore.

Your command of singlish or alike should just enable you to land a job in Sillypore.
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Post by satrap75 » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:24 pm

the high turnover is due to a variety of reasons ranging from incompetency of the staff employed to people who used SG as a stepping stone to get access to work in the States. i'm referring to non-locals here.

as SG is a global hub to many MNCs, a lot of IT projects are not just local based projects. many of the projects are overseas projects whereby requiring a substantial amount of travelling and teleconference with the clients. someone who can speak multi-languages will have certain advantages.

my client just got a IT deal in Saudi Arabia and he is travelling there to finalise things out. the IT projects may not be just localised projects.

anyway, kimtaymour do updates us when you found a job here.

cheers

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 19 Apr 2008 4:14 pm

satrap75 wrote:the high turnover is due to a variety of reasons ranging from incompetency of the staff employed to people who used SG as a stepping stone to get access to work in the States. i'm referring to non-locals here.
As an HR Manager & Headhunter, I find that locals aren't any better in their habits either. This country is famous for it's 2 year Job Hopper mentality. You have no idea of the numbers of CV's I've seen over the past 20 years with the reason for leaving as "change of atmosphere" or "better prospects" and the following job is exactly the same lateral movement with no better prospects for vertical movement and for the same or less salary. :roll:
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Post by kimtaymour » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:40 am

well as i see everyone ahas his own view. jobs that i see through JobsDB and Jobstreet in Singapore are promessing and are within my scope so for now let me try the only CV drop till the time i come tgo Singapore and send out CV nad go for interviews - job hunts starts

Surely Strap will update you how things goes

Moderator i din know u r a HR manager thats sounds good !
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Post by satrap75 » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:55 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote: As an HR Manager & Headhunter, I find that locals aren't any better in their habits either. This country is famous for it's 2 year Job Hopper mentality. You have no idea of the numbers of CV's I've seen over the past 20 years with the reason for leaving as "change of atmosphere" or "better prospects" and the following job is exactly the same lateral movement with no better prospects for vertical movement and for the same or less salary. :roll:
Not sure which industries and age group of people that you have interviewed. But I would suppose this is not just happening in SG alone. I used to conduct interviews overseas and came across many job hoppers.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:20 pm

satrap75 wrote: Not sure which industries and age group of people that you have interviewed. But I would suppose this is not just happening in SG alone. I used to conduct interviews overseas and came across many job hoppers.
Nobody said it was only happening in Singapore did they? It was you who eliminated Singaporeans, by specifying "non-locals", not me. I didn't eliminate Foreigners, I just added locals as well. And sorry to say, this country DOES have that reputation just like the Kiasu Syndrome. It's there and traits/reputations usually come about because NOT ALL are like that but a significantly higher percentage ARE. Enough so that the tar tends to stick. Get over it.
satrap75 wrote:the high turnover is due to a variety of reasons ranging from incompetency of the staff employed to people who used SG as a stepping stone to get access to work in the States. i'm referring to non-locals here.
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Post by satrap75 » Sun, 20 Apr 2008 3:01 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: Nobody said it was only happening in Singapore did they? It was you who eliminated Singaporeans, by specifying "non-locals", not me. I didn't eliminate Foreigners, I just added locals as well. And sorry to say, this country DOES have that reputation just like the Kiasu Syndrome. It's there and traits/reputations usually come about because NOT ALL are like that but a significantly higher percentage ARE. Enough so that the tar tends to stick. Get over it.
haha... oic.. i'm sorry about it! since the topic is about coming to SG to look for IT job, i'm speaking from my experience in this industry. i'm not being biased about locals or non-locals.

i'm sorry once again that my posts had been meant differently.

cheers.

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Post by kimtaymour » Wed, 23 Apr 2008 4:44 am

Well to me its jsut work in Singapore and thats all .. but making it as a step to go somewhrer else that has never been my intenrion. .adding to that am not to pro US .. to me US means nothg it means chit n crap .. if u get me a job with millions to US n a modest one in SG i'll take SG .. i have no interest in US .. i still dun understand why ppl are crazy abt that country .. nothg much in there neither their citizenship

as we say c'est une pourriture !
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Post by kwokhua » Thu, 24 Apr 2008 5:41 am

Perhaps, we should agree on just English for this forum. If you used another language to communicate, the majority of the English speakers cannot add on in the topic and in the course of it, some precious opniions may be lost.

And if we allowed other langauges to come in, very soon, there will be an influx of many more. Agree?

So, let us just agree on English, alright?

No offence meant.

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Post by durain » Thu, 24 Apr 2008 6:58 am

and singlish. :P

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