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Your kind advice is appreciated!!!~~

Postby christianne » Wed, 26 Mar 2008 1:10 pm

Hey there :)

I'm an American Citizen that grew up in Singapore. I hope to live in Singapore as it is very much home to me, and I'd love to be able to work there as soon as possible..

I'm looking for an entry level marketing position (graduating in May) but it seems that many of these jobs only consider Singaporeans and PRs.

Does anybody know how I could go about returning? Are there any ways I could find employment opportunities?

Thanks so much in advance~~

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Postby pi-chan » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:46 am

I graduated in March and dont find sth. (in the Finacial, audit sector) - i am on dependant pass.
I was told that fresh graduates will earn 1.2-1.4 with luck 1.6 -1.8.

For work you will need at least 1.8 for less no one will employ you. But S-pass is comlicated to apply for so most companys prefer not employ people on S-paß and choose local people.

E -Pass is easier for comapnies to apply (but there you need 2.5 k salary) what i was told no one will pay a fresh graduate :???:

wish you luck for your applications :)

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Postby christianne » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 2:08 am

That does not sound too good >.< i really hope that would not be the case for me.

What if I get half a year of experience with a MNC abroad before returning? I know that isn't much but I would really like to return as soon as possible.

Have you tried applying through recruiters? Are there any reputable job agencies that I could contact for assistance in this area that are serving larger companies?

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Postby ksl » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 8:29 am

Graduates get around 2000$, so I have been told by an employer.

To get 2500$ you will have to find a job before arriving with a MNC, it's possible in marketing and sales if you are good, and you can prove it. Sell yourself, tell them you will increase their revenue by 5 times your salary, within 6 months, not a difficult task at all, if your good.
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Have you got what it takes, to be a winner? If you are certain that you can produce, llike myself, I would offer a money back guarantee, to get the position i want.....Most employers don't want to carry the wanna be a good marketing & sales person, at their own cost, they are only interested in making business and profits.

So i would say, sell yourself, by making the point, you can earn your own keep, by making money, take the challenge by the horns, and you can solve the problems, even by offering some guarantee, may just get yourself employed, for the enthusiastic approach to be a winner.

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Postby pi-chan » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 9:21 am

i have tried recruiters as well, but most wrote back, that they are only looking for PR, Singaporians ... and no others.
3 wrote back that they had liked my education and try to find sth. but that was in January :?
and one job-agent said, that he tries to find sth. but wont believe he will find a company who wants to employ me as long as iam no PR

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Postby ksl » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:32 am

pi-chan wrote:i have tried recruiters as well, but most wrote back, that they are only looking for PR, Singaporians ... and no others.
3 wrote back that they had liked my education and try to find sth. but that was in January :?
and one job-agent said, that he tries to find sth. but wont believe he will find a company who wants to employ me as long as iam no PR


where are you from?

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Postby pi-chan » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:33 am

Germany

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Postby ksl » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 1:45 pm

pi-chan wrote:Germany
I take it you are of Chinese nationality, so speak Mandarin too?

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Postby pi-chan » Fri, 28 Mar 2008 9:41 pm

no iam not Chinese :wink: and i speak German, English and a bit French no mandarin :wink:

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Postby ksl » Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:51 pm

pi-chan wrote:no iam not Chinese :wink: and i speak German, English and a bit French no mandarin :wink:


Oops sorry! Okay thanks, i'll keep my ears open, if any positions become available!

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Postby dn7 » Mon, 31 Mar 2008 1:50 pm

Good luck. Almost impossible to get a job here without being a singaporean, or PR and without higher education qualifications.

I am surprised though I would assume the American MNCs would rather higher an American based in Singapore rather than a local (depending on the position). The problem is the recruiters dont go out of their way to make this happen you will need to talk to the management in these MNCs and bypass HR, and the only way for this by being recommended by top management

anyway, best of luck

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:43 pm

dn7 wrote:Good luck. Almost impossible to get a job here without being a singaporean, or PR and without higher education qualifications.

I am surprised though I would assume the American MNCs would rather higher an American based in Singapore rather than a local (depending on the position). The problem is the recruiters dont go out of their way to make this happen you will need to talk to the management in these MNCs and bypass HR, and the only way for this by being recommended by top management

anyway, best of luck


Has nothing at all to do with recruiters. It has everything to do with MOM. You obviously don't have a clue here if that's what you think. You might want to go to the MOM website and educate yourself on the why and wherefore's of Employment Passes, Work Permits and so forth. About the only one that can get around the myriad stumbling block are those that are on Dependent Passes (they only need a letter of consent to work) but their's work pass is entirely linked to the EP holders' expiry date. Even if the "Management" wants to hire them, they may not be able to if there are sufficient local available with sufficient education and experience to fill the position.

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Postby dn7 » Tue, 01 Apr 2008 8:07 am

thanks for the comments sundaymorningstaple. I was only stating what I have seen happen. The candidates did speak a foreign language however perhaps they played that up on the application.

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Postby madura » Fri, 04 Apr 2008 8:26 pm

dn7 wrote:I am surprised though I would assume the American MNCs would rather higher an American based in Singapore rather than a local (depending on the position).


Simple:

Locals are cheap.
Locals complain less (esp the PRs).

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Postby awesomearpit » Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:45 pm

hey christianne,
Why dont you apply for a landed PR?
it costs a bit of money (SG$800 for students and recent grads) but you essentially get an in-principle PR approval while sitting in your own country.

You need only show up in Singapore and get a job offer to get your PR card - not work permit etc needed.

Since you plan to return here long term, this may be a viable option.

Also, nothing beats actually *being* in singapore for the job hunt. It wuold definitely help if you have a year or two experience in the US. Perhaps you could join an MNC with a branch office in Singapore?

Either way, If you graduated from a good uni and have some work ex under your belt and sort out the PR-work permit thing then you shouldnt have much problem in getting a decent job here.

best of luck!


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