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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Tue, 16 May 2017 10:59 am

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ahboy25 wrote:good luck to you guys at getting through the interview! Was in your shoes once. Hopefully we'll get to see you guys during training at SAA :)
Thanks for the encouragement! Do you roughly know when the training at SAA starts for this batch? September?
FYI, just found out it starts in August I think

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by Toofle » Tue, 16 May 2017 3:05 pm

ahboy25 wrote: FYI, just found out it starts in August I think
I see. Thanks for the info! More leeway (before we convince ourselves we must have been rejected) but also a longer period of torture hahaha

How big was your facilities tour group? Just wondering if it could be a reason why there is a long waiting period. Maybe they need to consolidate more candidates to go together to save on the number of trips :-k

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Tue, 16 May 2017 3:53 pm

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ahboy25 wrote: FYI, just found out it starts in August I think
I see. Thanks for the info! More leeway (before we convince ourselves we must have been rejected) but also a longer period of torture hahaha

How big was your facilities tour group? Just wondering if it could be a reason why there is a long waiting period. Maybe they need to consolidate more candidates to go together to save on the number of trips :-k
Apart from the 2 rounds of interview, orientation, there's going to be your medical check which will take either one day or 2 separate days. There'll also be a contract signing which could be on the same day as your medical. Lastly, signing of contract for your sureties. All these has to be done before the start of the course.

My group had 18 people, but there were 2 other groups. Think another group had about 12. Not too sure about the last group. But I think the next intake is going to have about 34 pax +/-, significantly larger than my intake of 24 pax.

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by Toofle » Tue, 16 May 2017 4:06 pm

ahboy25 wrote: Apart from the 2 rounds of interview, orientation, there's going to be your medical check which will take either one day or 2 separate days. There'll also be a contract signing which could be on the same day as your medical. Lastly, signing of contract for your sureties. All these has to be done before the start of the course.

My group had 18 people, but there were 2 other groups. Think another group had about 12. Not too sure about the last group. But I think the next intake is going to have about 34 pax +/-, significantly larger than my intake of 24 pax.
Thanks for the useful info. May I ask what is being checked during the medical? Blood pressure, hearing..? The ultimate nightmare is to pass all the rounds, but fail the medical, lol.

Ahh I see. Makes sense in light of the air traffic volume being slated to increase in the future.

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Tue, 16 May 2017 7:39 pm

Toofle wrote:
ahboy25 wrote: Apart from the 2 rounds of interview, orientation, there's going to be your medical check which will take either one day or 2 separate days. There'll also be a contract signing which could be on the same day as your medical. Lastly, signing of contract for your sureties. All these has to be done before the start of the course.

My group had 18 people, but there were 2 other groups. Think another group had about 12. Not too sure about the last group. But I think the next intake is going to have about 34 pax +/-, significantly larger than my intake of 24 pax.
Thanks for the useful info. May I ask what is being checked during the medical? Blood pressure, hearing..? The ultimate nightmare is to pass all the rounds, but fail the medical, lol.

Ahh I see. Makes sense in light of the air traffic volume being slated to increase in the future.
Medical involves your stand checkup, blood pressure, ECG, urine test, blood test, cholesterol and a general colour blindness test involving a computer. X-ray checkup. Then you move on to specialist checks which are your eyesight and hearing.
Eyesight checks involves how short sighted you are (wear specs on the day, not contacts), detailed colour blindness checks and I some check involving your cornea or something.
Hearing test would involve you being placed in a box and doing a beep test (guys who went for NS medical checkup would know), they'll also do a physical checkup of your ear and inner ear.

As to your second part, it seems like they're trying to push more people to the aerodrome stream with T4 and T5 coming up, and also to man the RAM tower. In terms of increase in traffic, I would think that all streams would be affected. Approach and area I think would be affected quite a bit more (just my general opinion).

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by Toofle » Wed, 17 May 2017 2:45 pm

ahboy25 wrote:
Medical involves your stand checkup, blood pressure, ECG, urine test, blood test, cholesterol and a general colour blindness test involving a computer. X-ray checkup. Then you move on to specialist checks which are your eyesight and hearing.
Eyesight checks involves how short sighted you are (wear specs on the day, not contacts), detailed colour blindness checks and I some check involving your cornea or something.
Hearing test would involve you being placed in a box and doing a beep test (guys who went for NS medical checkup would know), they'll also do a physical checkup of your ear and inner ear.

As to your second part, it seems like they're trying to push more people to the aerodrome stream with T4 and T5 coming up, and also to man the RAM tower. In terms of increase in traffic, I would think that all streams would be affected. Approach and area I think would be affected quite a bit more (just my general opinion).
Wow, that's very comprehensive testing. Another barrier to maneuver and overcome. Seems like there's no point to be overly anxious then. I'll just take it one step at a time haha. Does the myopia check involve you looking at the Snellen eye chart with or without visual aid (eg. glasses)?

Hmm I see. May I ask what is a RAM tower? Can't find any info online regarding that.

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Wed, 17 May 2017 4:31 pm

Toofle wrote:
ahboy25 wrote:
Medical involves your stand checkup, blood pressure, ECG, urine test, blood test, cholesterol and a general colour blindness test involving a computer. X-ray checkup. Then you move on to specialist checks which are your eyesight and hearing.
Eyesight checks involves how short sighted you are (wear specs on the day, not contacts), detailed colour blindness checks and I some check involving your cornea or something.
Hearing test would involve you being placed in a box and doing a beep test (guys who went for NS medical checkup would know), they'll also do a physical checkup of your ear and inner ear.

As to your second part, it seems like they're trying to push more people to the aerodrome stream with T4 and T5 coming up, and also to man the RAM tower. In terms of increase in traffic, I would think that all streams would be affected. Approach and area I think would be affected quite a bit more (just my general opinion).
Wow, that's very comprehensive testing. Another barrier to maneuver and overcome. Seems like there's no point to be overly anxious then. I'll just take it one step at a time haha. Does the myopia check involve you looking at the Snellen eye chart with or without visual aid (eg. glasses)?

Hmm I see. May I ask what is a RAM tower? Can't find any info online regarding that.
Well on the bright side, you can't really prepare for the medical I guess? Either you have it or you don't (unless you want to like eat healthily and exercise or something now haha). Snellen chart yes, with and without glasses yes. Also the ishihara chart for colour blindness, which is quite standard. But don't be disheartened if you can't see without the glasses, you'll probably still get through.

My bad, it's ramp i think, instead of ram. Basically because of T4, there are some aircraft bays which are out of view or view obstructed from changi tower, so this additional tower is responsible for aircraft pushback and taxi from those bays. There's also going to be a second control tower but that's going to take a while. Since there's going to be a third runway and all.

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by nanochip » Tue, 23 May 2017 9:59 pm

Went for the aptitude test on 02 May and have yet to hear from them. Christina told me the average waiting time is around 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure I messed up some sections of the test.

Should I still remain hopeful?

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Tue, 23 May 2017 10:10 pm

nanochip wrote:Went for the aptitude test on 02 May and have yet to hear from them. Christina told me the average waiting time is around 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure I messed up some sections of the test.

Should I still remain hopeful?
Yup don't give up! In fact, what i did was drop them an email enquiring on the outcome of the aptitude test. Likewise, i was told around 2 weeks back then, but decided to drop an email when it closed in on a month.

Likewise, i had thought that i messed up some sections of the test (i thought i messed up quite a bit in fact), but do note that there are some aptitude tests out there, especially for certain MNCs as well, are not meant to be completed fully, 100% correctly. Look past the actual test and try and determine what skills/traits that the test was trying to evaluate.

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by nanochip » Wed, 24 May 2017 10:23 pm

ahboy25 wrote:
nanochip wrote:Went for the aptitude test on 02 May and have yet to hear from them. Christina told me the average waiting time is around 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure I messed up some sections of the test.

Should I still remain hopeful?
Yup don't give up! In fact, what i did was drop them an email enquiring on the outcome of the aptitude test. Likewise, i was told around 2 weeks back then, but decided to drop an email when it closed in on a month.

Likewise, i had thought that i messed up some sections of the test (i thought i messed up quite a bit in fact), but do note that there are some aptitude tests out there, especially for certain MNCs as well, are not meant to be completed fully, 100% correctly. Look past the actual test and try and determine what skills/traits that the test was trying to evaluate.
thanks for the encouragement! will drop them a mail soon! *fingers crossed*

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Thu, 25 May 2017 10:59 am

nanochip wrote:
ahboy25 wrote:
nanochip wrote:Went for the aptitude test on 02 May and have yet to hear from them. Christina told me the average waiting time is around 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure I messed up some sections of the test.

Should I still remain hopeful?
Yup don't give up! In fact, what i did was drop them an email enquiring on the outcome of the aptitude test. Likewise, i was told around 2 weeks back then, but decided to drop an email when it closed in on a month.

Likewise, i had thought that i messed up some sections of the test (i thought i messed up quite a bit in fact), but do note that there are some aptitude tests out there, especially for certain MNCs as well, are not meant to be completed fully, 100% correctly. Look past the actual test and try and determine what skills/traits that the test was trying to evaluate.
thanks for the encouragement! will drop them a mail soon! *fingers crossed*
All the best!!

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by jtzw1988 » Mon, 29 May 2017 3:15 pm

any one has news about the test? I took the test on 4 May but till date there is nth from Christina.

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by jtzw1988 » Mon, 29 May 2017 3:16 pm

ahboy25 wrote:
nanochip wrote:Went for the aptitude test on 02 May and have yet to hear from them. Christina told me the average waiting time is around 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure I messed up some sections of the test.

Should I still remain hopeful?
Yup don't give up! In fact, what i did was drop them an email enquiring on the outcome of the aptitude test. Likewise, i was told around 2 weeks back then, but decided to drop an email when it closed in on a month.

Likewise, i had thought that i messed up some sections of the test (i thought i messed up quite a bit in fact), but do note that there are some aptitude tests out there, especially for certain MNCs as well, are not meant to be completed fully, 100% correctly. Look past the actual test and try and determine what skills/traits that the test was trying to evaluate.
hi Ahboy25,

who was the HR that contacted you during your time? will they reply email?

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by ahboy25 » Mon, 29 May 2017 6:32 pm

jtzw1988 wrote:
ahboy25 wrote:
nanochip wrote:Went for the aptitude test on 02 May and have yet to hear from them. Christina told me the average waiting time is around 2 weeks and I'm pretty sure I messed up some sections of the test.

Should I still remain hopeful?
Yup don't give up! In fact, what i did was drop them an email enquiring on the outcome of the aptitude test. Likewise, i was told around 2 weeks back then, but decided to drop an email when it closed in on a month.

Likewise, i had thought that i messed up some sections of the test (i thought i messed up quite a bit in fact), but do note that there are some aptitude tests out there, especially for certain MNCs as well, are not meant to be completed fully, 100% correctly. Look past the actual test and try and determine what skills/traits that the test was trying to evaluate.
hi Ahboy25,

who was the HR that contacted you during your time? will they reply email?
I had a few people contact me, pristine, Cheryl and Christina. But Christina is still there, just saw her last week haha

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Re: Air traffic controller

Post by jtzw1988 » Mon, 29 May 2017 6:45 pm

Oic. Just sent an email to check on the status but seems like there is no reply.

Amazing thing is Christina ask me to go for apt test 1 month before 4 May. Speaking of doing things forward.

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