First, religion is a set of beliefs practiced by a group of followers. over the years the word religion has been misinterpreted as the definition of human activities within a church body. What you are referring to (sexual offences, hypocrites, etc.) is just plain and simply unacceptable human behaviour driven by the sinful desires of those humans. It is not the religion or church body making these people do this, it's their imperfect sinful desires.
In regards to the last several posts, I appreciate the explanations, although I come full circle..to thinking what is right and what is wrong, in accordance with the laws, that are forced upon us.
The church I also believe to be a wonderful place of worship, the problem for me, is that it is sinful, to expect a human, not to be human. Not only that, there are far too many variables in human deviation for the human race to live up to the expectations of what is only right.
The imbalance of chemicals within the brain, the genetics and DNA is a failure in the whole society of the universe...Russian roulette is played every day, and we know it is wrong...the fight between good & bad, is all a balancing act in my opinion, between what is good and bad...
The Church however have condo
ned these acts of badness for centuries, the place of worship is about the closest place to heaven & hell, because that's where it all happens.
Child abuse is rife the world over, and taboo in most Countries, I have no faith in human behaviour myself, because I have seen far too much suffering, and far too many psychopaths, that strive for their own survival.
Nobody wants war, but everyone wants the power to control, Governments control by fear, for example if you do not do NS you are punished. The armed service in itself is an organisation of brainwashing and indoctrination, so no matter what beliefs of people, its all contradictions that are thrown back at us, to live with.
We are all aware why religions are formed, and its the indoctrination, that I'm against, simplicity in itself tells me what is right and what is wrong...
If i see someone in need of help, I will help, without reservations because it is only right to do so...there should be no need to indoctrinate what is right and what is wrong, because this is not a choice human behaviour can control..so basically you are inviting the devil into the house of worship, and condoning the acts of wrongness has sins.
Breaking all the legalities of Justice to protect the offenders. The problem with sects, organisations, and religions is very easy to see, the ultimate power in preaching, to lead a congregation rules, and there will be an hierarchy of leadership and management.
We are not treated as equals, even though we are lead to believe that we are, basically I see it all has a big con to create a power base.
It's very possible there is reincarnation, but what does it matter, if we have no recollection of our past or future, for the 80 to 90 years, that life may extend itself, it is nothing, compared to the life around us, humans are insignificant, because the universe rules, not a god.
The universe will react, to wipe out all living creatures, when it needs too, and life will begin a new, illusion and history will repeat itself...what is basically wrong, is that governments have made the roles, of government for a purpose, mainly to follow the leader, be it right or wrong, fear installed on the weak, will result in power, the more humane and benevolent the powers are, will dictate the progress of growth and development.
I was disillusioned, by my own government, after serving my Country, only to find out, that they had passed a motion in government to justify the poisioning of their own soldiers, for what i see has basically a way of making money for some very high up people within MOD and government.
Its not a lie, because its now out in the open, over 20.000 soldiers were experimented on over the years, 4000 have been fighting for justice.
There is no justice, because MOD is protected by the hierarchy, they cannot be sued because they say, it was all done in the interests of national security.
My point of full circle and beliefs, means it is a pointless discussion, because there can only be one of two sides to chose from.
The right side or the wrong side, many will say this is far too simplistic, and i will reply with, okay I will shoot you, then that is one problem out of the way.
Rapists should be castrated, murders executed, thieves have their hand chopped off, but who's going to do it, yes the devil
Because he works as one of the same, he leads like all leaders, they lead because people need leading, people need a system of hierachy and fear, that is the life of the human.
I visited a few new age Churches in UK and was so shocked at the antics of brainwashing, the shouting and screaming disturbed me, although I am a non practising catholic, I have never had any wish to change my title of religion blessed upon me, by my parents, I respect their wish, and I respect all religions providing they preach the good and not the bad.
Ego must be the fundimental issue and problemtatic force of all people, this we see all too often, Ego will destroy the soul, and devour the good, what is left is contempt for all below thier privillaged ranking, the lack of diplomacy stands out, like a sore thumb in many sects, orgs and religions. Sheep should follow and ask no questions, diplomacy is an issue in itself.
QRM wrote:Do church goers actually believe Jesus walked on water, and manged to make hundreds of tuna sandwiches from a small basket, or they accept its more of a story with urns full of artistic license designed to drive home a message to the uneducated populace of the time.
Some do, although I have long since abandoned the idea of using science to disprove, or prove religion or vice versa. It was very interesting how I was at a chirch service once and the minister's topic of the day was that the whole Noah's Ark event was in fact scientifically, archaeologically and geologically sound. It was quite astounding.
Nevertheless, there is a question that has always bugged me.
I do not know where heaven is, I'm not even certain it exists. But let's just assume it does.
Why on earth do we have this world that's full of pain, suffering and clearly selfish people when there is a whole other world out there that is the opposite of all that's bad with this one?
Heaven is whereever you want to feel it to be! The earth is full of pain, and suffering because we let it effect us. when in fact it we have a choice, to join in or not...again those that follow the path of evil will live evil, and those that follow the path of good, will be good.
Ocassionally we humans are attacked by evil and we have to choose, to join it, fear it, or fight it.
One cannot ignore it, that is not a choice, this we see good examples of in anti social behaviour settings, the animal in us, comes to a head, and we hunt in packs, to install fear for gain.
In your heart you know, so follow your heart. be it good or bad, you will reap the rewards. To ignore..you will also reap the rewards of ignoring which maybe fear.
Our impulses are stimulated by what we see and hear, so you need to filter the good from the bad...these have been there since humans inherited the earth, the only thing of change is the communication methods