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Postby Rinaldhounited » Fri, 25 Jan 2008 4:04 pm

Hi,
I am interested in living in Singapore, but I hav a question to ask: What should an expat business graduate expect for a salary package?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 25 Jan 2008 6:21 pm

It would all depend on what that graduate is bringing to the table in experience. Without experience you probably wouldn't get interviewed let along hired.

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Postby Rinaldhounited » Fri, 25 Jan 2008 8:28 pm

so, its impossible to get a job as a fresh graduate in Singapore if ur an expat? Local?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 25 Jan 2008 9:06 pm

If you are a local fresh grad it's rather easy. If you are an expat, why should the government give you a employment pass to take a job away from a local? Why should an employer pay a premium price for something that a local graduate can (and will) do for 2500/mo? Doesn't may to much sense from a practical point of view. If you have a skillset that is lacking among the local population and it is needed here then you have some marketable. Otherwise? Pfffft! The government has to look out for it's citizens first. If they can't do it then okay. The hiring employer has to justify to MOM why they need to hire an expat when applying for the employment pass (you cannot apply yourself).

My advice is to get a couple of years experience (preferably niche or very new) so you have something to interest a local employer with. Or get a job with a firm in your country who has an office here and then maybe get a transfer after a couple of years. Otherwise it may be kind of rough.

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Postby durain » Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:28 pm

Rinaldhounited wrote:so, its impossible to get a job as a fresh graduate in Singapore if ur an expat? Local?


there's no such thing as an "expat business graduate". the term expat means you are working for a company in your home country and they send you to work in singapore, so you are an expat. as an expat, your package will depends on the company, ie housing, education for the kids, relocation cost, home leave, etc.

but you dont have to be an expat to be able to work in singapore. what it is is consider as a "local hire". you will have to look for a job in singapore yourself.

some of the fresh graduate in singapore if they are top of their field are more than likely to be snapped up by company in singapore. so for you as a foreign fresh graduate would be very difficult. as sms said, you need to be in the niche to get your foot in the door!

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Postby Rinaldhounited » Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:32 pm

thanks, yea when i said "expat" just meant foreigner, but not linked with any other company... Thanks for clearing things up

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Postby Jeppo » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:44 am

durain wrote:the term expat means you are working for a company in your home country and they send you to work in singapore, so you are an expat.


Huh? I'm guessing you're not a native English speaker.

From www.dictionary.com:

ex·pa·tri·ate (ěk-spā'trē-āt') Pronunciation Key
v. ex·pa·tri·at·ed, ex·pa·tri·at·ing, ex·pa·tri·ates

v. tr.

To send into exile. See Synonyms at banish.
To remove (oneself) from residence in one's native land.

v. intr.

To give up residence in one's homeland.
To renounce allegiance to one's homeland.

n. (-ĭt, -āt')

One who has taken up residence in a foreign country.
One who has renounced one's native land.

adj. (-ĭt, -āt')
Residing in a foreign country; expatriated: "She delighted in the bohemian freedom enjoyed by the expatriate artists, writers, and performers living in Rome" (Janet H. Murray).



Not one mention of work, just residing in a foreign country.

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Postby willeko » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 2:59 pm

Anybody an idea what companies are accepting young graduates that are not singaporean ? I'd like to find a job in finance or consulting sector.
I am currently already in Singapore, doing traineeship (till end of June), so that should make it easier for me to get at least an interview i hope.

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Postby awesomearpit » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 6:25 pm

You could try IDA/EDB/MDA etc..
they are looking for people - esp young grads.. I am not sure about the immigration status.. IDA was ok with me being a "Landed PR".. but you can check.
Best of luck :)

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Postby durain » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 7:46 pm

Jeppo wrote:
durain wrote:the term expat means you are working for a company in your home country and they send you to work in singapore, so you are an expat.


Huh? I'm guessing you're not a native English speaker.

From www.dictionary.com:

ex·pa·tri·ate (ěk-spā'trē-āt') Pronunciation Key
v. ex·pa·tri·at·ed, ex·pa·tri·at·ing, ex·pa·tri·ates

v. tr.

To send into exile. See Synonyms at banish.
To remove (oneself) from residence in one's native land.

v. intr.

To give up residence in one's homeland.
To renounce allegiance to one's homeland.

n. (-ĭt, -āt')

One who has taken up residence in a foreign country.
One who has renounced one's native land.

adj. (-ĭt, -āt')
Residing in a foreign country; expatriated: "She delighted in the bohemian freedom enjoyed by the expatriate artists, writers, and performers living in Rome" (Janet H. Murray).



Not one mention of work, just residing in a foreign country.


ok, inglish teaher :P

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 9:15 pm

I thought the word that was used was 'Expat' not expatriate. While both share the same root they do not share the same connotations. :P

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Postby durain » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 9:29 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I thought the word that was used was 'Expat' not expatriate. While both share the same root they do not share the same connotations. :P


yeah, you know what i mean... :P

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:14 pm

My lighthearted broadside was at Jeppo not you. He's the one who posted the definition. :wink:

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Postby Jeppo » Tue, 29 Jan 2008 8:46 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I thought the word that was used was 'Expat' not expatriate. While both share the same root they do not share the same connotations. :P


Then henceforth I hereby ban both you and I from this board, as this board is for expats and not expatriates and by the definition I was responding to neither of us fits the said definition of expat. :P :lol:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:25 am

......I'll get my coat! :cool:


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