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Who are you to restrict or even judge what others can feel? You can only judge yourself by your own feelings, but certainly not others.Superglide wrote:Come to Singapore, live and work here for 5 years and make a decision. It's easy and foolish to say you feel Singaporean, when being a born Fin, living in Sweden.
I'm sorry but your post reeks of arrogance.

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Why do you do want to be a Singaporean? I'm not sure you have explained that. Not feeling at home in your own country doesn't really qualify as an answer.
Feeling at home in Singapore and wanting to be a Singaporean are totally different things.
Feeling at home in Singapore and wanting to be a Singaporean are totally different things.
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Explaining why could fill a whole book, and even if I'm most flattered by your interest, my main concern lies on a more general level.
Your last comment, I'm sorry to say, only points out the obvious. I don't really understand what lies behind your comment, but it sounds kinda sour. Bad experiences with whiteys?
Your last comment, I'm sorry to say, only points out the obvious. I don't really understand what lies behind your comment, but it sounds kinda sour. Bad experiences with whiteys?

You do what you are.
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Great - you live in a country you don't feel happy with for 30 years for the pension plan.huggybear wrote:you're a Fin living in Sweden?
regardless both countries have among the best pension plans and benefits in the world. do you really want to give that up?

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Actually both Finland and Sweden have mystery meat pension plans -- the rich subsidize the poor, and the sum you put in has no guaranteed correlation to the amount you'll get out when you retire. CPF in Singapore at least has the advantage of being transparent in this particular regard: you know exactly how much money you've got saved up.huggybear wrote:you're a Fin living in Sweden?
regardless both countries have among the best pension plans and benefits in the world. do you really want to give that up?
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Pension plans are also not what they are made out to be in Europe, although very good, he will still qualify for what he has paid in, at the age of 65.huggybear wrote:you're a Fin living in Sweden?
regardless both countries have among the best pension plans and benefits in the world. do you really want to give that up?
Because government keep the rest, so they can manipulate your life, until you suffer a cruel and lonely death, with very bad medical services.
The UK system is a disgrace and the whole welfare system scrapped, because the abuse and inefficiencies, also of pensions. Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia is very good.
Guy Fawkes had the right idea on the 5th of November 1605, about Parliament in UK (yes I have said this more than once

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Cutie, Jpatokal: You seem to know where I'm coming from wanting to leave.
The systems in both countries used to work much better, when you could really count on getting a pension to begin with.
Nowadays, you have to save in order for you to have a pension you can actually live on.
The cold, merciless truth is that we're paying the highest taxes in the world and we don't get a whole lot.
Our demographics is not a beautiful sight, which leads to that ever fewer people have to bear the burdens of the majority. Solidarity is a nice thought, but it usually springs to life from opportunity and wealth, both of which are a rare sight in Sweden today (unless you are politician).
Singapore has a lot of creative ideas, a hope for brighter tomorrow, and a drive to solve tomorrow's problems. There is no such thing as a perfect country or society, but Singapore's close enough for me. How I wish I was there already!

The systems in both countries used to work much better, when you could really count on getting a pension to begin with.

The cold, merciless truth is that we're paying the highest taxes in the world and we don't get a whole lot.

Our demographics is not a beautiful sight, which leads to that ever fewer people have to bear the burdens of the majority. Solidarity is a nice thought, but it usually springs to life from opportunity and wealth, both of which are a rare sight in Sweden today (unless you are politician).

Singapore has a lot of creative ideas, a hope for brighter tomorrow, and a drive to solve tomorrow's problems. There is no such thing as a perfect country or society, but Singapore's close enough for me. How I wish I was there already!

You do what you are.
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Guilty, but the forum was so slow and sticky I couldn't get to this thread. I was logged out 5 or 6 times.GordonGekko wrote:Hey guys,
Thanks for your input. I really appreciate all your opinions, even the more critical ones, even if some people have chosen to face me with their opinions on another, unrelated thread.![]()
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