Read this and absorb http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/forum55.html . If you still need help , howl or yell, someone will come to the rescueeleewhm wrote:ok... i am leaving singapore soon... sometime in July 2011 to the US for work... i believe i will be there for a good ten years before deciding to return back home here or not..
I am more concern and planning for my son,
- he will be 7 yrs by july 2011 and turn 8 on Aug 2011 when we bring him out of singapore..
do i need to apply a exit permit for him later in life?
Yes
.. and when is the latest he needs to be back to serve his NS..
16 and half for NS Pre registration
cause i believe that once my son is on the US education system by 18 ..
he would be either preparing to go to a Uni etc.. can he be exempted till he finish his degree and return to serve NS... ??
No , he cannot defer for tertiary education
experts pls help
That is very sad to hear. Is china's medical treatment better than Singapore's? It might have been much better for the treatment to be carried out in Singapore so there is audibility and verfiability. MINDEF is not going to hire private detectives in China to check what you did or did not do.mimosa80 wrote:Hello everyone,
This is my first time posting in this forum, any help would be very much appreciated. The situation goes like this:
My family is originally from China, we moved to Singapore when my son is 8. Our family took the oath and became citizens some years later, obtaining the passport and pink IC.
My husband had cancer when my son was turning 17. Since we do not have extended family in Singapore, our family returned to China that year for medical treatment and family support, a few months before my son "officially" turned 17 later in the year.
We asked Mindef for my son's deferment or renouncement, both were rejected (cannot renounce before 21). We explained that my husband can die within a few months if the bone marrow transplant in China with a close relative fails, hence our son needs to be with the family (only child too). Mindef outright rejected both deferment and renouncement. So my son applied for an exit permit, left using his Chinese passport and never came back to Singapore. My husband died 5 years later because of complications (my hands are shaking as I type this).
I want the best for my son. He's now in his upper twenties approaching 30. Can he send his Singapore passport to Singapore Immigration for renouncement (since he's past 21) and clear everything up so that he can visit the place he and his family grew up in? I would appreicate ANY advice. Thank you.
If that is the case I will probably do a comparative analysis of medical costs in Singapore (with govt subsidy) vs China and show them that with your savings, it is impossible for your husband to stay alive in Singapore. While CMPB rules are pretty strict, most people I know are compassionate human beings. As long as you can prove that you did not try to beat the gahmen at their own game (make a profit out of them as opposed to them making a profit out of you), officials will do their best to help you within the context of law.mimosa80 wrote:Hi everyone,
Thank you all for your input.
To Koalabear, the diagnosis and treatment started in Sg, we still have the paperwork. The issues are cost and family support, which happened to be more favorable back in China.
To Mad Scientist, thank you for your suggestions. I have a question regarding contacting ICA Kallang and CMPB of Mindef in parallel. Should I just try canceling my son's passport via ICA and wait for response before contacting CMPB of Mindef? I was just wondering if I should be initiating two threads of negotiation and possibly complicate matters. Or do you suggest I contact CMPB of Mindef first? My son will be 30 in two years.
Also, does it mean that my son's situation will be cleared if he is able to renounce his citizenship, with a letter from ICA?
SMS, thanks for your input too.
mimosa80 wrote: To Mad Scientist, thank you for your suggestions. I have a question regarding contacting ICA Kallang and CMPB of Mindef in parallel. Should I just try canceling my son's passport via ICA and wait for response before contacting CMPB of Mindef? I was just wondering if I should be initiating two threads of negotiation and possibly complicate matters. Or do you suggest I contact CMPB of Mindef first? My son will be 30 in two years.
Go parallel via snail mail. Send one set of doc to CMPB
3 Depot Road #02-07 Singapore 109680 Ph: 65 6373 3132 or email at [email protected]
Attention : MS Yum Kah Leng or Madam Tan or Ms Cheryl Tan.
Another to Citizen Advise Bureau at ICA Kallang
Attention to Mrs Pang SY(Supervisor ) . This must include his SG Passport and China Passport(photocopy). Get the China PP notarise for that matter. Copy China PP pages to show his border control movement to show he did not leave to other country/ies just to evade NS. Unless he did that then you are on your own which the Gahmen knows that this is a ploy.
It will not complicate matters to send the docs at simultaneous time as your son is already an NS defaulter per se. They will liase between agencies
Also, does it mean that my son's situation will be cleared if he is able to renounce his citizenship, with a letter from ICA?
Like I said, I do not know of known cases during my time hence this is ONLY my suggestion. I have gone thru many cases for you on the past three days but I do not have anything specific per your situation. I DARE NOT comment something unless I have concrete evidence.
What can possible happen ? Your son renounciation is rejected hence he must NOT return to SG even transit via Changi Airport unless he wants to face the music.
Or they let you renounce and he does not need to face the music BUT chances of him being banned is higly possible.
SG Gahmen does not want anyone to beat the system and return to tell their tale. It will be a smack on their face.
I wish I could do more for you, it hurts me when I am not able to find a solution for a person in real need.
Honestly I really do not know how it will turn out.
Please remember to mitigate with all intents and purposes on compassionate ground. Please post again the outcome which will be about two to three weeks if you start the ball rolling now
Good Luck and take care.
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