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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 7:06 am

http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page04.aspx?id=6142

It doesn't matter where you get paid. It's where you work. If you are working in Singapore, you will pay taxes here if over 60 days in a calendar year. MOM and ICA and IRAS all use different guidelines. So, you might have one kind of visa but your actual duration here may cause a different end game.

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Postby sg_retro » Fri, 10 Dec 2010 7:19 am

Thanks all.

Tax is the last thing on my mind. Income tax in Singapore will never be as high as here in Europe :wink: The main concern here is getting into Singapore :(

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Postby whitecottonlamb » Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:03 am

[quote="byung_hun"]Hi you guys! I really do hope that you are able to assist me in my situation.

I was born in Singapore in 1998 and therefore I am normally a subject to the NS. But I left Singapore in the year 1997 at the age of nine years. Until now I have not set foot into Singapore. It has been more than ten years and I find it more than sad that I cannot enter the country without knowing what will happen. I just want to see my families and old friends once again and see all the changes that have occured during my absence.
I am now living in the U.K since the year 1997 after the departure from Singapore. I have obtained British Citizenship at the age of 18 and furthermore I was given a British passport. My former surname used to be "LEE". But my mother's new husband has adopted me at the age of 17 without which I was not able to obtain British Citizenship.

I will be 21 in the next year. Is it possible to renounce the Singaporean Citizenship without having any problems with army or government? I myself do not know what will happen when I enter the country and therefore I have decided to stay away from Singapore until I am 21 and furthermore I do not even know whether I am still a citizen of Singapore.

I have no other wish except to see Singapore once again. I would do everything.
I would be more than thankful if you are all able to give me some advice to facilitate this matter!

Regards, Steven[/quote]

Hi byung_hun,

I need help on the renouncation of Singapore Citizenship + NS issue. I wonder if your issue have been solved. Could you reply this tread or PM me? Thanks heaps!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:17 am

:roll:

His last post here was 3 years ago.

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Postby whitecottonlamb » Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:22 am

Hi MS,

I've a few question about NS as well and have been reading the post in this forum. Could you help me? Thanks Heap. Could you reply me?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 05 Apr 2011 1:59 am

whitecottonlamb wrote:
Hi MS,

I've a few question about NS as well and have been reading the post in this forum. Could you help me? Thanks Heap. Could you reply me?


What do you need to know ?
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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 05 Apr 2011 5:25 am

Whitecottonlamb

I have replied you in your own thread.

Stop posting multiple threads. Mods hate that
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Postby whitecottonlamb » Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:05 am

Sorry mod

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Postby jdaniel » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 6:22 pm

sg_retro wrote:Hi all,

I hope someone is able to give me some advise on the following.

It's best to start off with a bit of history. I'm born as a Singaporean in 1981 and have been living in Europe since 1989. Between this period I've only spent 6 years in Singapore as I spent 2 years of my early childhood outside Singapore. In 1992 I was granted European citizenship, while still holding a Singaporean one. Before I turned 21 I was granted an Exit Permit and Approval for NS Deferment by the Singapore Gov. At age 21 (in 2002) I was allowed to renounce my Singapore citizenship which I did.

Since 1989 I've returned to Singapore several times for social visit and never did I have any issues. Everything went well, so it seems. In 2006 I applied for a Student Exchange Programme with NUS and for this I need to have a Student Visa/Pass. 'Mysteriously' my application was turned down by ICA without any given reason. With no criminal record and with a good educational background, I can see no reason for rejection either than for the fact that I'm an ex-Singaporean.

The problem I'm facing now is as follows. I'm now working as a consultant for a big American firm in Europe. This week I was told by my boss that he wants to send me to Singapore for training and perhaps in combination with a short-term assignment. He plans to send me to Singapore for 3 to 4 months starting in January 2010. This would be great for my career but I'm afraid that ICA (or for that matter Ministry of Manpower) won't grant the me visa/permit I need in order to perform my task in Singapore. Given the fact that I was refused a Student Pass in 2006, how great is that chance that I will be granted a visa/permit this time? Apparently in my previous encounter with ICA, I was NOT treated as any other foreigners. How will they treat me now?

Please help. This is driving me nuts. :shock: :shock: :shock:



Working in Singapore would mean you are being employed here directly being paid directly that sort of thing. Anything else would be just you conducting some business here on behalf of a foreign company:

"Visitor who has been granted a short term Visit Pass at the Singapore Checkpoint and wish to attend a short course that can be completed within the validity of the initial Visit Pass granted to him/her at the Singapore Checkpoint or 30 days, whichever is shorter. The course must:

be a complete module and stand-alone module of its own. Courses with multiple programme modules are excluded from this Student's Pass exemption scheme; and
not involve hands-on practical occupational training and/or industrial attachment which have interaction with walk-in customers or be conducted at premises that are also places of business, e.g. hair salons and beauty salons." which means basically unless you are doing full time study like a proper school you are good to go.

Someone probably already addressed this but what the heck. If they do not give you 90days at the border, just come in and out.

For others that may find themselves in a similar situation.

I read through some of the replies and it is mostly a bunch of fear mongering pfffffff thats is how the PAP would like to control you by latching on to your balls. Be informed, conduct yourself in a prudent manner... this relates to all matter including ones about renouncing your citizenship etc.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 05 Jun 2011 8:18 pm

So your are back again and still try to advise people to deliberately circumvent the law is it? You don't give up do you.

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Postby kita72 » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 3:22 pm

Hi everyone,

My son was born in Singapore and has dual citizenships. We left Singapore when he was 4 mths old. Due to my husband's work (he's non Singaporean with EP, I'm Singapore citizen by birth), we came back 2 yrs ago when son was almost 7y/o. We were asked to go ICA to get a 'Right of Entry' stamp on his foreign passport which we did. We didn't apply Singaporean passport for him all the while. He goes to a local school here and now is in Primary 2 . We are leaving Singapore for good 2 years old from now. My questions are as follow:

1) Do I contact Mindef about his intention to renounce his Singapore2) What about the bond issue? Do we have to post a bond after the first exit permit expires?

3) I read somewhere in the forum that males liable for NS who emigrated at a young age and do not enjoy any substantial amount of socio-economic benefits (pink IC, SIN pp and studied beyond the age of 11 y/o) are allow to apply for deferment of NS pending renounciation at age 21 y/o. Does studying in local school before 11 y/o consider as having enjoyed substantial amount of socio economic benefits?

4) Is there any chance that he might be able to avoid serving his NS?

PS: We WANT to renounce his Singapore citizenship and I do intend to renounce mine as well after taking up citizenship of my hubby's home country. My 5 y/o daughter who also has dual citizenships (born overseas but I applied Singapore citizenship for her after birth.) also will renounce her Singapore citizenship.

Thanks a ton!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 4:10 pm

You should be okay if you follow MS's well laid out protocols. You seem to have it all already. Studying in Primary doesn't count so no problems there, but that's the reason for 11 years of age, once they hit secondary, then they are considered as having enjoyed the socio-economic benefits of Singapore.

MS will be along shortly to fill you in on all the nitty-gritty.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 6:12 pm

Aiyoh!! Tan lor, mai ani kan chong

I will reply you on the other post

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Postby kita72 » Tue, 21 Jun 2011 6:30 pm

Hi Sundaymorningstaple, thanks for your reply! I am trying to follow the necessary protocols. :)

Hi MS, sorry for being so kanchong. It's like walking on eggshells regarding my son's NS issues. :)

Hope to hear from you soon, thanks again!

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 22 Jun 2011 4:28 am

kita72 wrote:Hi Sundaymorningstaple, thanks for your reply! I am trying to follow the necessary protocols. :)

Hi MS, sorry for being so kanchong. It's like walking on eggshells regarding my son's NS issues. :)

Hope to hear from you soon, thanks again!


I have replied to you on the other post. EGGSHELL ???, this is nothing. Wait till they grown up and have minds of their own.!!!

Then it will be a walking time bomb !!

Anyhow you came to the right place as this forum is a great place for infos.
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